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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt2)

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    Maybe they will ask to be taken hostage again by Hamas next year ? Hamas didn't kill these kids in question , because  the kids wouldn't have any bargaining power if they were dead , they were ke

  • The two you mention are the most biased in the world. The best, factual outlet in the ME is Al Jazeera.

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19 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

October 7th could not and would not have happened but for 14 years of active support for Hamas by the  religious nutjob Netanyahu.

 

Netanyahu is not religious. Or at least, not observant. Caught out many times.

19 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I posted many. Carpet bombing is indiscriminate bombing, they are the same thing.

 

You have not.

And it's not quite the same thing.

Again, your opinions are not facts.

Just now, Morch said:

 

Netanyahu is not religious. Or at least, not observant. Caught out many times.

 

Then his wish to deny Palestinians a state must be based on pure race hatred.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

You have not.

And it's not quite the same thing.

Again, your opinions are not facts.

 

Exp[lain the difference concisely. I'll wait.

 

I link to wikipedia article that said clearly they are the same and to several people who used the term.

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

They wouldn't have happened without his tacit support of Hamas is what I said. Stop the projecting, it's stupid. That question is offensive.

 

What's offensive is you trying to make Hamas not responsible for the attack.

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I just posted credible links that said unequivocally that they were. Where is your evidence that they are not?

 

You did not.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I have repeatedly said I provided links, stop trolling me.

 

You have said you did.

Again, that gap between what you imagine and reality.

Just now, Morch said:

 

What's offensive is you trying to make Hamas not responsible for the attack.

 

You've got a severe logical deficit here. That is not even an accidental non sequiter. That's a deliberately offensive question and is in no way what a rational person would interpret from my post.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Then his wish to deny Palestinians a state must be based on pure race hatred.

 

That's your opinion, again.

Others could cite other reasons, such as political views, security concerns and whatnot.

You? You go for hyperbole as the first option.

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Exp[lain the difference concisely. I'll wait.

 

I link to wikipedia article that said clearly they are the same and to several people who used the term.

 

No. This is your claim, your argument.

I do not need to make it for you.

This is not how it works.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

That's your opinion, again.

Others could cite other reasons, such as political views, security concerns and whatnot.

You? You go for hyperbole as the first option.

 

Denial of a Palestinian state and actively working to prevent it can only be attributed to either a religious conviction as Gallant does or to racial hatred. There's no wiggle room here.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

You've got a severe logical deficit here. That is not even an accidental non sequiter. That's a deliberately offensive question and is in no way what a rational person would interpret from my post.

 

And yet, it's exactly what follows from your many posts.

Your thrust is that Netanyahu is the one to blame, followed closely by Israel as a whole. Hamas comes in distant third, if that.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Please promise me you'll start to read links in future. This is a repeat

 

The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

 

Great, now actually bother to read the link, rather than cerry-pick a convenient bit.

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2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Please promise me you'll start to read links in future. This is a repeat

 

The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

This is not a repeat, its the first time you've posted it and it also does not prove your claim in anyway, does not even mention it.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

And yet, it's exactly what follows from your many posts.

Your thrust is that Netanyahu is the one to blame, followed closely by Israel as a whole. Hamas comes in distant third, if that.

 

My thrust is not that Netanyahu is the ONE to blame at all. That you deliberately and frankly stupidly want to project is your problem.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Denial of a Palestinian state and actively working to prevent it can only be attributed to either a religious conviction as Gallant does or to racial hatred. There's no wiggle room here.

 

Gallant is not religious/observant either.

 

That you announce there are only two hyperbole options is, again, your opinion.

 

I have posted a couple of other options above, there are others.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Great, now actually bother to read the link, rather than cerry-pick a convenient bit.

 

Point out the bit that disproves the definition I quoted. Your great at innuendo, short on explaining yourself.

Just now, Morch said:

 

Gallant is not religious/observant either.

 

That you announce there are only two hyperbole options is, again, your opinion.

 

I have posted a couple of other options above, there are others.

 

He said Gaza belongs to Israel. Where does he get that idea from?

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

My thrust is not that Netanyahu is the ONE to blame at all. That you deliberately and frankly stupidly want to project is your problem.

 

You go on and on about Netanyahu being responsible. Pretty much regardless of what is discussed.

Your other go to opinion is that it's Israel's policies that are to blame.

Hamas's policies and actions come in distant third.

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I just reposted a link above. Where do you get off?

I get off on the truth and fact @ozimoron

 

You on the other hand supply misleading links:

 

This does not appear in the article at all, you've added that.

The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Please promise me you'll start to read links in future. This is a repeat

 

The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing

 

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18 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

They wouldn't have happened without his tacit support of Hamas is what I said. Stop the projecting, it's stupid. That question is offensive.

You don't like hearing what happened on October 7. I get it. 

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Point out the bit that disproves the definition I quoted. Your great at innuendo, short on explaining yourself.

 

What is it with you and refusing to read stuff? Why do you need everything chewed up for you?

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

He said Gaza belongs to Israel. Where does he get that idea from?

 

He's a right wing politician, aiming to maybe replacing Netanyhu in the future.

Politicians say a whole lot of things.

Just now, Jingthing said:

You don't like hearing what happened on October 7. I get it. 

 

I condemned Hamas. Another one trying to tell me what I think as an insult instead of addressing the topic itself.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

He's a right wing politician, aiming to maybe replacing Netanyhu in the future.

Politicians say a whole lot of things.

 

Well war crimes were engendered by this viewpoint.

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