Israel losing global support over Gaza bombing, Biden says

[Morch]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

No idea where he got it from, but I agree with the author. The situation in Gaza can't be compared to Germany, Japan, daesh or any like it 

 

Doesn't seem to be much of an issue for many posters here when they compare Israel to this or that, or what Israel does in the Gaza Strip or West Bank to other regimes, times in history and so on.

 

I agree that things cannot be exactly compared, there are always variants. But it is true that there's enough historical reference to suggest that using force to dismantle regimes, organizations and even ideologies can be effective. It can be qualified by saying that it's more effective when combined with some long term approach which is not force-based

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Many do. You continually kill every thread about Israel, but flaming everyone who disagrees with you.

You continually make up stuff, ridicule, continual gaslighting, and make anyone who has compassion for the Palestinians feel unwanted. If there is any opposition or questions about your biased opinion you derail, insult then call a moderator  to remove the evidence. No wonder so many have you on ignore.

 

You're a victim. And I'm a bad bad bad man. OK.

Still, who cares whether you put me on 'ignore' or not?

[Morch]

1 hour ago, DudleySquat said:

Biden is a buffoon. Why should anyone care what he says?

 

In major shift, survey finds Israelis prefer Biden to Trump as next US president

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-major-shift-survey-finds-israelis-prefer-biden-to-trump-as-next-us-president/

[Bkk Brian]

45 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This is interesting-

 

Can Hamas actually be eliminated? This is what military and security analysts think

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/12/israel-gaza-war-can-hamas-actually-be-eliminated-experts-weigh-in.html

I'm not keen on Elon Musk but he got one thing spot on when talking about the situation in Gaza.

 

First of course get rid of Hamas: or in his words “Those that are intent on murder must be neutralised". The propaganda must stop that is training people to be murderers in the future. And then, making Gaza prosperous. And if that happens, I think it will be a good future.

 

“These people have been fed propaganda since they were children. And it’s remarkable what humans are capable of if they’re fed falsehoods from when they are children,” Musk said. “They will think that the murder of innocent people is a good thing. That is how much propaganda can affect people’s minds.” He elaborated that video footage of Hamas militants storming a kibbutz, a music festival and homes to capture and kill innocent Israeli citizens demonstrates exactly how much damage ruthless propaganda can cause by inciting people to be violent.

https://www.firstpost.com/world/deradicalise-first-and-then-rebuild-elon-musk-outlines-steps-to-reconstruct-gaza-in-post-war-phase-13439912.html

[Rimmer]

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[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, DudleySquat said:

Biden is a buffoon. Why should anyone care what he says?

He is a puppet, he is told what to say..

[placeholder]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So, Israel should surrender? 

Typical reductive thinking. Something you do again and again. As though there are always only 2 options and you get to define what the other one is.

[DudleySquat]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

He is a puppet, he is told what to say..

 

Agreed. Americans would like to know who is deciding things. It's not him.

[CharlieH]

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[Photoguy21]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Anyone that knows the history of the region know the answer to that. I'm not going to give a history lesson here as it would just get deleted, but the information is all out there on the internet. You just have to look for it.

And what information exactly would you be referring to?

[Photoguy21]

On 12/29/2023 at 12:38 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Not only that, it also appears people have forgot how easy it is to stop this:

 

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1740496703885832303

 

It would be very easy to stop but for that to happen Hamas would need to have the will for it to stop and they dont.

[Jeff the Chef]

3 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

It would be very easy to stop but for that to happen Hamas would need to have the will for it to stop and they dont.

The Zionists could stop this as well, but they want the Palestinian problem gone forever.

[DudleySquat]

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The Zionists could stop this as well, but they want the Palestinian problem gone forever.

 

I am a Zionist. And you blame them for wanting to end the killing of children in Israel by Hamas? They target schools. Who would want that crossing their border? 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Typical reductive thinking. Something you do again and again. As though there are always only 2 options and you get to define what the other one is.

 

That's the second time you've said as much in recent posts - but failed to elaborate.

[Morch]

13 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The Zionists could stop this as well, but they want the Palestinian problem gone forever.

 

As a rule of thumb, people who refer to Israelis as Zionists, are ones having issues with the country's existence.

[DudleySquat]

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

As a rule of thumb, people who refer to Israelis as Zionists, are ones having issues with the country's existence.

And this is why I am also a Zionist.

[Morch]

23 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The Zionists could stop this as well, but they want the Palestinian problem gone forever.

 

How would this make the Palestinian problem gone forever?

 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Typical reductive thinking. Something you do again and again. As though there are always only 2 options and you get to define what the other one is.

So, what are the other options? You've already been asked countless times and never respond with anything. 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

27 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The Zionists could stop this as well, but they want the Palestinian problem gone forever.

The Zionists are trying to stop it. 

 

Do the Palestinians not want their problem gone forever as well? 

[Wobblybob]

11 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

And this is why I am also a Zionist.

People who believe in Israel's right to exist are all Zionists IMO.

[DudleySquat]

4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

People who believe in Israel's right to exist are all Zionists IMO.

 

I have no problem stating clearly, that I am a Zionist. It does tend to flush out all the Jew-haters, but so be it.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

He is a puppet, he is told what to say..

That's a garbage conspiracy theory.

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The Zionists could stop this as well, but they want the Palestinian problem gone forever.

Exactly. 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, DudleySquat said:

 

I have no problem stating clearly, that I am a Zionist. It does tend to flush out all the Jew-haters, but so be it.

I have no problem with Jews but Zionists are something else, get rid of Bibi and co and all their claptrap ideas.

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

How would this make the Palestinian problem gone forever?

 

It won't, but Bibi and Co think they have the solution by doing what they are doing.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

It won't, but Bibi and Co think they have the solution by doing what they are doing.

What should Israel be doing ? 

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I have no problem with Jews but Zionists are something else, get rid of Bibi and co and all their claptrap ideas.

 

I have no problem with Jews but Zionists are something else, wink-wink-nudge-nudge...

 

Yeah, the Jews willing to be eradicated by the Palestinians are okay, it's only the ones that fight back that are a problem. 

 

River to the sea baby! 

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

What should Israel be doing ? 

They could try to stop killing, maiming, brutal aggression, oh and 75 years of oppression. 

[Jeff the Chef]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I have no problem with Jews but Zionists are something else, wink-wink-nudge-nudge...

 

Yeah, the Jews willing to be eradicated by the Palestinians are okay, it's only the ones that fight back that are a problem. 

 

River to the sea baby! 

 

 

Yeah, the Jews willing to fight back Zionists are Bibi's problem.

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

They could try to stop killing, maiming, brutal aggression, oh and 75 years of oppression. 

Yeah, they tried that. what else?