Judge orders Trump and companies to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[ozimoron]

15 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Model Code of Judicial Conduct: 
Canon 2 Rule 2.9: Ex Parte Communications

February 14, 2020

 

Comment on Rule 2.9

 

[5] A judge may consult with other judges on pending matters, but must avoid ex parte discussions of a case with judges who have previously been disqualified from hearing the matter, and with judges who have appellate jurisdiction over the matter.

 

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_code_of_judicial_conduct/model_code_of_judicial_conduct_canon_2/rule2_9expartecommunications/commentonrule2_9/

 

Are you suggesting that Engoron consulted with other judges in either of these categories or just trying to muddy the waters?

[Danderman123]

16 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Model Code of Judicial Conduct: 
Canon 2 Rule 2.9: Ex Parte Communications

February 14, 2020

 

Comment on Rule 2.9

 

[5] A judge may consult with other judges on pending matters, but must avoid ex parte discussions of a case with judges who have previously been disqualified from hearing the matter, and with judges who have appellate jurisdiction over the matter.

 

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_code_of_judicial_conduct/model_code_of_judicial_conduct_canon_2/rule2_9expartecommunications/commentonrule2_9/

Of course, but there are plenty of judges with whom Engoron could have consulted. Like any reasonable person involved in the biggest case of their life would do.

[Danderman123]

Trump spends $3 million to pay lawyers as one super PAC bails out another

 

Trump is losing money on some of his campaign organizations.

[Lacessit]

46 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

An appeals court is never going to dismiss asset valuation fraud. But, the appeals court may reduce the verdict amount.

 

The question is whether Trump can get a bond within 30 days.

 

One factor that everyone ignores is that it's likely that Judge Engoron conferred with other judges during the trial.

There's a fairly merciless dissection of the arguments Trump's lawyers will probably advance on appeal.

Meidas Touch on YouTube, Michael Popok.

Perhaps the most striking part of the opinion piece is the assertion Judge Engoron did everything possible in his verdict to negate any grounds for appeal.

Another problem Trump has is sending in lawyers who have no experience with the NY legal system. It's like having a grade cricketer opening in a Test match, with Mitchell Johnson bowling.

 

 

Edited February 21 by Lacessit

[stevenl]

33 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Are you suggesting that Engoron consulted with other judges in either of these categories or just trying to muddy the waters?

He was responding tosomeone else who claimed it likely engoran consulted with other judges.

See the quote in the post.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

It's very common for motorists caught speeding to alert the police to others who are driving too fast.

 

Doesn't get them out of a ticket, though.

I'm trying, I'm trying to get it. But, nope.

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm trying, I'm trying to get it. But, nope.

It's obvious:

 

a guilty perp's last line of defense is "whatabout them? They did it, too!"

[ozimoron]

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

He was responding tosomeone else who claimed it likely engoran consulted with other judges.

See the quote in the post.

 

I know. The insinuation was that they were inappropriate judges in accordance with his quote. At least I think so. It's hard to pin down the right wing innuendo at the best of times, they never make their point clearly when it involves conspiracies

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I know. The insinuation was that they were inappropriate judges in accordance with his quote. At least I think so. It's hard to pin down the right wing innuendo at the best of times, they never make their point clearly when it involves conspiracies

The poster you reacted to is not right wing.

There was no insinuation at all.

[Danderman123]

21 minutes ago, stevenl said:

He was responding tosomeone else who claimed it likely engoran consulted with other judges.

See the quote in the post.

Or retired appelate judges, no barrier to doing that.

[EVENKEEL]

15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It's obvious:

 

a guilty perp's last line of defense is "whatabout them? They did it, too!"

I could care less, or I couldn't care less about Trumps defense. I find it fascinating that all this hatred is directed towards one man. After everything that's being thrown at Trump, his stress level must be crazy high and yet, he's still marching towards the White House. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

I could care less, or I couldn't care less about Trumps defense. I find it fascinating that all this hatred is directed towards one man. After everything that's being thrown at Trump, his stress level must be crazy high and yet, he's still marching towards the White House. 

 

Nope, he's a broken down wreck. The hatred is just as warranted as that for every other fascist tyrant in history. I'm still consumed with hatred over the stolen babies. They had the temerity to accuse dems of stealing babies. Yet another right wing lie.

[hotandsticky]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I could care less, or I couldn't care less about Trumps defense. I find it fascinating that all this hatred is directed towards one man. After everything that's being thrown at Trump, his stress level must be crazy high and yet, he's still marching towards the White House. 

 

 

Says a lot about America.

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I could care less, or I couldn't care less about Trumps defense. I find it fascinating that all this hatred is directed towards one man. After everything that's being thrown at Trump, his stress level must be crazy high and yet, he's still marching towards the White House. 

And yet you make endless posts proclaiming his innocence.

 

What about the Trump fluffers who claim that Trump is innocent of the 91 felony counts?

Edited February 21 by Danderman123

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I could care less, or I couldn't care less about Trumps defense. I find it fascinating that all this hatred is directed towards one man. After everything that's being thrown at Trump, his stress level must be crazy high and yet, he's still marching towards the White House. 

Trump lost the popular vote to Hilary Clinton. He lost the same vote to Biden by 7 million votes. He lost the mid-terms. He lost two defamation cases to the tune of $88 million, one fraud case with a penalty of $360 odd million. He might as well have loser tattooed on his forehead.

 

He still has 91 criminal indictments to answer to. He has alienated the female vote by boasting about Roe vs Wade, disrespected the military, and p!ssed off the unions with a laughably fake rally.

 

He has used campaign funds to pay lawyers, his war chest is half that of Biden's. The big donors have pulled their donations, all he can do is grift small donors.

 

I am curious - what hallucinogen are you taking, that makes you think he is marching towards the White House?

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

And yet you make endless posts proclaiming his innocence.

 

What about the Trump fluffers who claim that Trump is innocent of the 91 felony counts?

Where did I proclaim his innocence, you're so fueled with hate that you don't see the bigger picture. Trump is being singled out for crimes that I'm quite sure he didn't come up with all by himself. If Trump was doing funny books then I'd bet so are most mega businessmen. Seems to me his only crime is having a loud mouth.

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Where did I proclaim his innocence, you're so fueled with hate that you don't see the bigger picture. Trump is being singled out for crimes that I'm quite sure he didn't come up with all by himself. If Trump was doing funny books then I'd bet so are most mega businessmen. Seems to me his only crime is having a loud mouth.

91 felony charges, and you are still finding excuses for Trump. You ask "where did I proclaim his innocence" and then post that Trump is being unfairly prosecuted. "Seems to me his only crime is having a loud mouth" is called "proclaiming his innocence". Duhhh...

 

Trump has been indicted with multiple co-defendants so you can't claim he is being singled out.

Edited February 21 by Danderman123

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

News flash: Trump fan wants Trump to win the election!

 

Even if he does he can't get out of a single dime of the 450 odd million he owes NY and E Jean Carroll.

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

91 felony charges, and you are still finding excuses for Trump.

 

Trump has been indicted with multiple co-defendants so you can't claim he is being singled out.

I don't want Trump, but I most definitely don't want biden. Nobody wants either one, not really. But the vote will be cast against the one they hate the most.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

I could care less, or I couldn't care less about Trumps defense. I find it fascinating that all this hatred is directed towards one man. After everything that's being thrown at Trump, his stress level must be crazy high and yet, he's still marching towards the White House. 

The wheels of justice move slowly. But they are now catching up to Trump. Proves our legal system still works.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Wow, you sure stepped up the Drama here. I so hope Trump makes it to the WH, just to watch people's heads explode.

Sad you don't hope the best for the American people.

[Danderman123]

I am amazed at the number of foreigners here who want to see America weakened from its pre-eminent position in the world, and who support Trump.

Edited February 21 by Danderman123

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

It's very common for motorists caught speeding to alert the police to others who are driving too fast.

 

Doesn't get them out of a ticket, though.

nah, that just highlights your mentality and character,  most motorists would warn others where the cameras/police were to help them out.

[frank83628]

i will laugh when this all goes tits up, i see the governor already told others not to worry.... oh why's that..politically motivated thats why, and this adds to the polarisation of the US of ARSE, 

 

Edited February 21 by frank83628

[BKKKevin]

45 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i will laugh when this all goes tits up, i see the governor already told others not to worry.... oh why's that..politically motivated thats why, and this adds to the polarisation of the US of ARSE, 

 

Yada Yada Yada...

Trump has had and will have further due process of law and will be punished for his proven crimes...

Business will go on as usual and other than a few lawyers probably not getting paid no one will fall off the edge of the earth... 

Edited February 21 by BKKKevin

[Danderman123]

47 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i will laugh when this all goes tits up, i see the governor already told others not to worry.... oh why's that..politically motivated thats why, and this adds to the polarisation of the US of ARSE, 

 

There are more cases in the pipeline for Trump, including Michigan and Nevada (or Arizona). Trump will be in an out of court (or prison) for the rest of his life.

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

There are more cases in the pipeline for Trump, including Michigan and Nevada (or Arizona). Trump will be in an out of court (or prison) for the rest of his life.

 

   Will the Dems be doing this to all future Republican candidates for Presidency, ?

[Tug]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Will the Dems be doing this to all future Republican candidates for Presidency, ?

No just the ones who break the law and try to steal the presidency hope that helps

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Will the Dems be doing this to all future Republican candidates for Presidency, ?

Not if the Republicans nominate people who don't have a long and ugly history of legal problems.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/01/trump-investigations-history-timeline/

[Danderman123]

On 2/18/2024 at 11:49 AM, frank83628 said:

but you still parrot the Russian collusion conspiracy

 

The Russians are helping Trump by providing disinformation for the Biden impeachment inquiry.

 

In return, Trump is not going to resist if Russia attacks certain NATO countries, and end US support for Ukraine.

 

If that isn't collusion, can you give me a better word for it?