Clinton says Trump’s threats ‘should scare every American’

[candide]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

yes, pencil neck was a fantastic name given to him by DT, the impeachment based on a telephone call?, which he actually didnt hear, just made up how he thought i would have gone.

not bashing Mueller, just the 'nothing burger' report

 

yawn. 

The phone call was recorded. 😆

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, candide said:

The phone call was recorded. 😆

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770

Frank won't read it. Just like the Muller report.

[frank83628]

5 hours ago, candide said:

The phone call was recorded. 😆

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770

yes, i know it was, did you read the transcript? pencil neck schiff made his own fictional version up and tried to impeach trump over that, it didnt even happen, purely in PN's head and exactly why the impeachment was another 'nothing burger' like Russian collusion, and everything else they have politically thrown at DT.
show the transcripts from a direct source like the white house rather than an edited version....

[candide]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

yes, i know it was, did you read the transcript? pencil neck schiff made his own fictional version up and tried to impeach trump over that, it didnt even happen, purely in PN's head and exactly why the impeachment was another 'nothing burger' like Russian collusion, and everything else they have politically thrown at DT.
show the transcripts from a direct source like the white house rather than an edited version....

The first sentence of the Politico article:

"The White House released a readout of President Donald Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenski"

 

Schiff presented an interpretation of the phone call in a speech, he never claimed it was the original text.

Edited April 27 by candide

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Frank won't read it. 

the mueller report was a nothing burger, any charges to trump?  no, i didn't think so, El Trumpo did not 'collude ' with Russia, that is a FACT, no matter how much you try to move those goal posts to suit!, you can bang on about it as much as you want, some 'messages sent out through russian outlets ' hardly undermined the election, if they did, then it highlights how weak the US is with regards to cyber security....do you have hard copy of these so called messages??? any psychical proof..nope, i dont think so!

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

As usual...

 

The first sentence of the Politico article:

"The White House released a readout of President Donald Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenski"

did anything come of the impeachment?

[Roo Island]

14 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

the mueller report was a nothing burger, any charges to trump?  no, i didn't think so, El Trumpo did not 'collude ' with Russia, that is a FACT, no matter how much you try to move those goal posts to suit!, you can bang on about it as much as you want, some 'messages sent out through russian outlets ' hardly undermined the election, if they did, then it highlights how weak the US is with regards to cyber security....do you have hard copy of these so called messages??? any psychical proof..nope, i dont think so!

Ya never read it....figures

[Roo Island]

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

did anything come of the impeachment?

Yes. The people became aware of his crimes. Sadly, worthless Mitch McConnell refused to let it move forward. 2 times.

 

First impeachmen: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress

Second impeachment: incitement of insurrection

 

Stunning how anyone could support a man like that

[frank83628]

19 minutes ago, candide said:

The first sentence of the Politico article:

"The White House released a readout of President Donald Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenski"

 

Schiff presented an interpretation of the phone call in a speech, he never claimed it was the original text.

no, but it was spread far & wide by all the bought out MSM, implying it was what was actually said , millions of msm viewers think that was what DT said, when it was FALSE...basically schiff was spreading 'misinformation' (as you guys are so quick to point out when it comes DT). but lets give it a pass when it comes to those 'fact checkers'...double standards . com!! 

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Yes. The people became aware of his crimes. Sadly, worthless Mitch McConnell refused to let it move forward. 2 times.

 

First impeachmen: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress

Second impeachment: incitement of insurrection

 

Stunning how anyone could support a man like that

so, thats a NO then. otherwise he would been convicted....same as the non existent  rape conviction, 

 

and yeah, i prefer him to creepy ol' joe aka '10% for the big man', the 50yr career politician thats worth millions on a basic salary... but you guys are blind to the fact because.....Trumps bad M'kay. pull your heads  out your arses. 

Edited April 27 by frank83628

[candide]

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so, thats a NO then. otherwise he would been convicted....same as the non existent  rape conviction, 

 

and yeah, i prefer him to creepy ol' joe aka '10% for the big man', the 50yr career politician thats worth millions on a basic salary... but you guys are blind to the fact because.....Trumps bad M'kay. pull your heads  out your arses. 

The usual baseless claims. You can check the sources of his wealth in his tax returns which have been made public for years (unlike the Orange man)

[candide]

13 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

no, but it was spread far & wide by all the bought out MSM, implying it was what was actually said , millions of msm viewers think that was what DT said, when it was FALSE...basically schiff was spreading 'misinformation' (as you guys are so quick to point out when it comes DT). but lets give it a pass when it comes to those 'fact checkers'...double standards . com!! 

Not true. The MSM published the original transcript from the WH, as Politico did.

Which misinformation did Schiff spread, exactly?

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/sep/30/context-adam-schiffs-dramatized-version-trump-zele/

[Roo Island]

39 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

no, but it was spread far & wide by all the bought out MSM, implying it was what was actually said , millions of msm viewers think that was what DT said, when it was FALSE...basically schiff was spreading 'misinformation' (as you guys are so quick to point out when it comes DT). but lets give it a pass when it comes to those 'fact checkers'...double standards . com!! 

Link proving this....please

[Roo Island]

37 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so, thats a NO then. otherwise he would been convicted....same as the non existent  rape conviction, 

 

and yeah, i prefer him to creepy ol' joe aka '10% for the big man', the 50yr career politician thats worth millions on a basic salary... but you guys are blind to the fact because.....Trumps bad M'kay. pull your heads  out your arses. 

I'm guessing you don't understand that the only reason he wasn't impeachment was because of ONE person. Dozo.

 

Are you aware of how much Dozo made while being president? Probably not as much as his son in law.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2023/08/17/heres-how-much-joe-biden-is-worth/?sh=18e94f3938e

 

Instead, he is getting richer by doing what a lot of 80-year-old Americans are doing: sitting on real estate. The president owns two homes in Delaware that are worth an estimated $7 million combined, $1.8 million more than they were when he took office.

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, candide said:

Not true. The MSM published the original transcript from the WH, as Politico did.

Which misinformation did Schiff spread, exactly?

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/sep/30/context-adam-schiffs-dramatized-version-trump-zele/

schiff practically made up his own version of the call!

 

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-parody-donald-trump-congressional-hearing-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-call-1461579

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, candide said:

The usual baseless claims. You can check the sources of his wealth in his tax returns which have been made public for years (unlike the Orange man)

yes, of cousre his China & Ukraine back handers will be put through the books and taxed!

 

11 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Link proving this....please

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-parody-donald-trump-congressional-hearing-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-call-1461579
he is another one, cnn typically cover for Schiff for the most part, but ther do at least say he 'At some points, Schiff’s words strayed quite far from what the rough transcript showed Trump saying'...... basically made it up and/or lied!!

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-adam-schiff-trumps-ukraine-call/index.html

 

Edited April 28 by frank83628

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/26/2024 at 3:46 PM, Gecko123 said:

If you look at Hillary Clinton's character, intelligence, and depth of experience, to this day she stands head and shoulders over Trump. America would have been infinitely better off had she been elected in 2016, and it's an American tragedy that she wasn't.

Every time I think about her ( I try not to but she's like a bad small and keeps coming back ) I thank the deity that she wasn't elected. I don't care who defeated her, but IMO a rock would have done a better job.

[candide]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

yes, of cousre his China & Ukraine back handers will be put through the books and taxed!

 

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-parody-donald-trump-congressional-hearing-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-call-1461579
he is another one, cnn typically cover for Schiff for the most part, but ther do at least say he 'At some points, Schiff’s words strayed quite far from what the rough transcript showed Trump saying'...... basically made it up and/or lied!!

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-adam-schiff-trumps-ukraine-call/index.html

 

It's incoherent. On the one hand you are claiming that his wealth is unexplained (amount known from his tax return), and on the other hand you are claiming there have been hidden payments. If there had been hidden payments (of which you have no proof), the wealth brought by these payment would not show in his official wealth amount.

 

And anyway, your claim of payments from China or Ukraine is baseless. But if you have some proof, send it to Comer, He's desperate as he cannot find any.

FD-1023 anyone?

 

In summary, you have nothing.

[johng]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

but IMO a rock would have done a better job.

"The Rock"  ? 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, johng said:

"The Rock"  ? 

Him too.

[candide]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

schiff practically made up his own version of the call!

 

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-parody-donald-trump-congressional-hearing-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-call-1461579

You are contradicting yourself. 

You claimed that the MSM presented Schiff parody as it were the original transcript in order to fool people ("it was spread far & wide by all the bought out MSM, implying it was what was actually said").

But you have yourself provided two links from the "bought out MSM" showing that they did not do that, and actually provided a critical analysis of Schiff speach to their readers.

[Puccini]

What Trump’s war on the ‘Deep State’ could mean: ‘An army of suck-ups'

 

By Bob Ortega, Kyung Lah, Allison Gordon and Nelli Black, CNN

Updated 4:41 PM EDT, Sat April 27, 2024

 

CNN — 

At one campaign rally after another, former President Donald Trump whips his supporters into raucous cheers with a promise of what’s to come if he’s given another term in office: “We will demolish the deep state.”

 

In essence, it’s a declaration of war on the federal government—a vow to transform its size and scope and make it more beholden to Trump’s whims and worldview.

 

The former president’s statements, policy blueprints laid out by top officials in his first administration and interviews with allies show that Trump is poised to double down in a second term on executive orders that faltered, or those he was blocked from carrying out the first time around.

 

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/27/politics/trump-federal-workers-2nd-term-invs/index.html

 

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Puccini said:

In essence, it’s a declaration of war on the federal government—a vow to transform its size and scope

Which is why Trump is popular, BECAUSE he has declared "war" on the federal government.

 

BTW expecting CNN to publish an unbiased item is like expecting snow in Bkk.

[Roo Island]

On 4/28/2024 at 9:11 AM, frank83628 said:

yes, of cousre his China & Ukraine back handers will be put through the books and taxed!

 

https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-parody-donald-trump-congressional-hearing-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-call-1461579
he is another one, cnn typically cover for Schiff for the most part, but ther do at least say he 'At some points, Schiff’s words strayed quite far from what the rough transcript showed Trump saying'...... basically made it up and/or lied!!

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-adam-schiff-trumps-ukraine-call/index.html

 

That's called a parody. Jeez.

[Eric Loh]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Which is why Trump is popular, BECAUSE he has declared "war" on the federal government.

 

BTW expecting CNN to publish an unbiased item is like expecting snow in Bkk.

Why you think he is popular when he lost in 2018, 2020, 2021 and 2022. 

[Roo Island]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Which is why Trump is popular, BECAUSE he has declared "war" on the federal government.

 

BTW expecting CNN to publish an unbiased item is like expecting snow in Bkk.

Ordinary people work for the federal government. The deep state primary exists in conspiracy theories and misinformation. Sad some fall for it.

 

Same with CNN. MAGA cult members fell for Trump's propaganda about them. Biased? Yes. Factual? Way more than faux News

[frank83628]

21 hours ago, Roo Island said:

That's called a parody. Jeez.

its called lying, schiff lied to congress claiming the phone call as evidence for impeachment, the white house released the transcript which showed nothing wrong, schiff backtracked and cnn and the other media outlest covered for him. 
you know the seriousness of an 'impeachment' right? and schiff and say he was paraphrasing or itr was a parody!! GTFOFH, what came of it...... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....once again!!

[candide]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

its called lying, schiff lied to congress claiming the phone call as evidence for impeachment, the white house released the transcript which showed nothing wrong, schiff backtracked and cnn and the other media outlest covered for him. 
you know the seriousness of an 'impeachment' right? and schiff and say he was paraphrasing or itr was a parody!! GTFOFH, what came of it...... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....once again!!

Making things up again? 😀

Was has been used as evidence is the actual phone call recording and transcript, not Schiff's parody, and it was incriminating.

 

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-Y4_IN8_18-PURL-gpo129303/pdf/GOVPUB-Y4_IN8_18-PURL-gpo129303.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjF8ZK_x-mFAxXzRKQEHZipADoQFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0XLQimuabkr6usbHNp02GW

 

Edited April 30 by candide

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

its called lying, schiff lied to congress claiming the phone call as evidence for impeachment, the white house released the transcript which showed nothing wrong, schiff backtracked and cnn and the other media outlest covered for him. 
you know the seriousness of an 'impeachment' right? and schiff and say he was paraphrasing or itr was a parody!! GTFOFH, what came of it...... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING....once again!!

Read the article very closely.....

[Jai Dee]

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