Popular Post snoop1130 Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Amnesty International has criticized Thailand's human rights record, calling it "poor." It urged the Thai government to dismiss all charges against young protestors. In its report, The State of the World’s Human Rights: April 2024, Amnesty status that despite a change in leadership, the children's rights in the country continue to be marginalized especially for those involved in protests against the government. In a review of human rights issues across 155 countries in 2023, Thailand was accused of deploying intimidation, surveillance and laws to suppress student protests and curb dissent. Piyanuch Kotsan, director of Amnesty International Thailand, during the report’s unveiling, requested the clearing of all legal accusations against children involved in peaceful protests. "We urge the Thai government to drop all legal actions against child protestors accused of being a part of peaceful gatherings or exercising their freedom of speech," she stated. Thai Lawyers for Human Rights also noted that since the 2020 demonstrations against the government started, almost 300 children have faced charges out of nearly 2,000 accused. Many were charged by using an emergency law that prohibits public assemblies due to the Covid-19 pandemic, or charges related to sedition and violation of Thailand’s lèse-majesté law that outlaws criticism of the monarchy or royal family members. A 15-year-old girl, Thanalop Phalanchai, was one of those charged and detained for 51 days for participating in a 2022 rally where she demanded the lèse-majesté law be abolished. Despite the termination of military rule, Piyanuch stressed that Thailand's human rights status is still worrying. Amnesty is lobbying the Pheu Thai government to consistently safeguard children's rights during peaceful public events. Last year, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin promised at the UN General Assembly in the US to promote equality, justice, human rights, human dignity, and speech freedom in Thailand. "We aim to bolster the rule of law and enhance government transparency. We will ensure that the law is fair, strictly implemented, and applicable to everyone equally," the PM promised. The Thai government is currently applying for the third time to join the UN Human Rights Council. File photo for reference only. Courtesy of Google -- 2024-04-29 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoePai Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 The Thai government is currently applying for the third time to join the UN Human Rights Council. Get your house in order first ! 3 1 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shunter Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Thailand is not a democracy, it's a demonocracy. Feudalism (sadly) is alive and well in Thailand. An unmentionable implemented unspeakable scenario used to control and manipulate the serfs and peasants. 2 1 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Thai Democracy is not for the people only for the super rich and the ones in the Government.. All others as we have seen many times will be locked up and silenced.. Human Rights as a part of the democracy are unknown... Thailand pretends they do everything, but even refugees from Myanmar are being sent back as reason they are entering Thailand illegally without a visa...Minors in jail for freedom of speech, etc .. They have no shame 4 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 (edited) Of course any move to reform 112 is now an act to overthrow the Monarchy not to simply reform an anachronistic law that has been weaponised. The status quo must be retained here so the minority elite and military can maintain their power and wealth. Edited April 29 by dinsdale 2 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Amnesty International has criticized Thailand's human rights record, calling it "poor." It urged the Thai government to dismiss all charges against young protestors. In its report, The State of the World’s Human Rights: April 2024, Amnesty status that despite a change in leadership, the children's rights in the country continue to be marginalized especially for those involved in protests against the government. Because it's still the same old faces running it. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: A 15-year-old girl, Thanalop Phalanchai, was one of those charged and detained for 51 days for participating in a 2022 rally where she demanded the lèse-majesté law be abolished. Disgusting. 2 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted April 30 Popular Post Share Posted April 30 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Despite the termination of military rule, When did that happen? I thought the Senate Generals had terminated Democracy at the last count? 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted April 30 Popular Post Share Posted April 30 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: We will ensure that the law is fair, strictly implemented, and applicable to everyone equally," the PM promised. In other words, the PM promised that all Thai prisoners can have a holiday at the Police Hospital. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 18 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Amnesty International has criticized Thailand's human rights record, calling it "poor." It urged the Thai government to dismiss all charges against young protestors. In its report, The State of the World’s Human Rights: April 2024, Amnesty status that despite a change in leadership, the children's rights in the country continue to be marginalized especially for those involved in protests against the government. In a review of human rights issues across 155 countries in 2023, Thailand was accused of deploying intimidation, surveillance and laws to suppress student protests and curb dissent. Piyanuch Kotsan, director of Amnesty International Thailand, during the report’s unveiling, requested the clearing of all legal accusations against children involved in peaceful protests. "We urge the Thai government to drop all legal actions against child protestors accused of being a part of peaceful gatherings or exercising their freedom of speech," she stated. Thai Lawyers for Human Rights also noted that since the 2020 demonstrations against the government started, almost 300 children have faced charges out of nearly 2,000 accused. Many were charged by using an emergency law that prohibits public assemblies due to the Covid-19 pandemic, or charges related to sedition and violation of Thailand’s lèse-majesté law that outlaws criticism of the monarchy or royal family members. A 15-year-old girl, Thanalop Phalanchai, was one of those charged and detained for 51 days for participating in a 2022 rally where she demanded the lèse-majesté law be abolished. Despite the termination of military rule, Piyanuch stressed that Thailand's human rights status is still worrying. Amnesty is lobbying the Pheu Thai government to consistently safeguard children's rights during peaceful public events. Last year, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin promised at the UN General Assembly in the US to promote equality, justice, human rights, human dignity, and speech freedom in Thailand. "We aim to bolster the rule of law and enhance government transparency. We will ensure that the law is fair, strictly implemented, and applicable to everyone equally," the PM promised. The Thai government is currently applying for the third time to join the UN Human Rights Council. File photo for reference only. Courtesy of Google -- 2024-04-29 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe Nobody listens to the preaching west anymore, thankfully. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 17 hours ago, shunter said: Thailand is not a democracy, it's a demonocracy. Feudalism (sadly) is alive and well in Thailand. An unmentionable implemented unspeakable scenario used to control and manipulate the serfs and peasants. Thailand is no different from anywhere else. For example, what kind of democracy offers its electorate a choice between Biden and Trump? Democracy doesn’t really exist anywhere, when you think about it, and what makes it the best system of government anyway? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller101 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, sidneybear said: Thailand is no different from anywhere else. For example, what kind of democracy offers its electorate a choice between Biden and Trump? Democracy doesn’t really exist anywhere, when you think about it, and what makes it the best system of government anyway? A load of bs in capital letters by a small mind whith a myopic view of the world limited to a part of North America. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, traveller101 said: A load of bs in capital letters by a small mind whith a myopic view of the world limited to a part of North America. Aside from ad hominem insults, are you able to discuss, like an adult, any of the points I raised? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 All a misunderstanding. I think the translation from English to Thai came out as 'The Right to Violate Humans' 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller101 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 54 minutes ago, sidneybear said: Aside from ad hominem insults, are you able to discuss, like an adult, any of the points I raised? Your points raised Thailand no different to anywhere else, democracy doesn't exist anywhere. Talking about insults - your statements constitutes a massive insult to the vast majority of the populations of Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria, Australia etc. to name a few. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 18 hours ago, dinsdale said: reform an anachronistic law It seems a paradox that the Thailand legislative assemblies that created such laws cannot now amend those laws - legislative actions granted by the constitution. While sovereignty of the nation is held by Thai citizens as stated in every Thai constitution that I've seen, apparently possessing sovereignty is not synonymous with execising it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) On 4/29/2024 at 2:40 PM, snoop1130 said: The Thai government is currently applying for the third time to join the UN Human Rights Council. On 4/29/2024 at 2:40 PM, snoop1130 said: We will ensure that the law is fair, strictly implemented, and applicable to everyone equally," Thailand's application is likely to fail if only for the fact that the Human Rights Commission of Thailand accreditation was downgraded by the UN Sub-Committee on Accreditation in 2015 due to numerous deficiencies that I believe were caused by the NCPO Junta's re-write of the Thai constitution. Essentially the HRCT lost its autonomy and became subservient to the Junta government. As I recall for example, any report on the status of Thailand's human rights had to be reviewed by the government who had editorial right over HRCT's reports before publication. And nothing has been done legislatively to gain that endorsement. I've not seen in any new proposed constitution drafts or proposed amended laws by the Thavisin regime that would cause the HRCT to achieve independence and neutrality required by the SCA for accreditation. Without such basic changes, Thavisin can cheerlead his intents, hopes and aspirations, but will not succeed without specific legislative actions. Edited April 30 by Srikcir grammar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/29/2024 at 3:39 PM, ikke1959 said: Thai Democracy is not for the people only for the super rich and the ones in the Government. How is that different from most other democracies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, traveller101 said: Your points raised Thailand no different to anywhere else, democracy doesn't exist anywhere. Talking about insults - your statements constitutes a massive insult to the vast majority of the populations of Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria, Australia etc. to name a few. Apparently you like to "cherry pick". Why do I see so many countries which claim to be democracies appear in red or orange below? 2 hours ago, traveller101 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 20 hours ago, traveller101 said: Your points raised Thailand no different to anywhere else, democracy doesn't exist anywhere. Talking about insults - your statements constitutes a massive insult to the vast majority of the populations of Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria, Australia etc. to name a few. In what ways have I insulted the countries that you listed by making comparisons to Thailand? Please, enlighten me with your insights, if indeed you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claffey Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Isn't it ironic that Amnesty criticises Thailand for locking up students at the same time that the US sends in the police to arrest hundreds of student protesters? Does democracy an Human rights truly exist anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, claffey said: Isn't it ironic that Amnesty criticises Thailand for locking up students at the same time that the US sends in the police to arrest hundreds of student protesters? Does democracy an Human rights truly exist anywhere? Two different situations . The U.S students were arrested for breaking laws . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claffey Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 5/1/2024 at 5:52 PM, Nick Carter icp said: Two different situations . The U.S students were arrested for breaking laws . Peacefully protesting genocide? I would suggest that Western human rights organizations look towards their own governments before turning their attention to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 12 minutes ago, claffey said: Peacefully protesting peacefully ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felton Jarvis Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Thailand has never paid any attention to Amnesty International of any other organization supporting "human rights'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claffey Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 57 minutes ago, stoner said: peacefully ? 9 57 minutes ago, stoner said: peacefully ? Kids in tents. It was peaceful until the police showed up with riot gear and guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, claffey said: 9 Kids in tents. It was peaceful until the police showed up with riot gear and guns. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjl Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 https://molfar.com/en/blog/amnesty-international As case of pan calling kettle black? As for the students protesting in America and the ongoing protests in the UK,I wonder how many of them actually know and fully understand what they are protesting about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGant Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 18 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said: Thailand has never paid any attention to Amnesty International of any other organization supporting "human rights'. Understandably so, since AI is not culturally sensitive to Thailand's monarchy system. But having said that, ask the average Thai on the street if he's upset that Thailand has some firm restrictions about large crowd gatherings on the street, particularly if those crowds are directed at certain restricted activities. Heck, even Singapore has more restrictions on crowd gatherings than does Thailand (and, yes, AI has directed itself against Singapore -- whose citizens, when factoring in reality, laugh it off). No, when you look at the freedoms Thailand actually has compared to those in the neighborhood (Cambodia, China, Burma, Laos, and Vietnam), life here, from a human rights standpoint, is quite ok. And, yes, you *do* need a certain degree of domestic real politik -- that drives the hand wringers nuts -- to preserve and promote daily harmony. Need a little more of that back on the campuses in the US. Sure, Thailand could probably cut some slack on youthful exuberation --as the young sometimes just don't know how good they actually have it, until they grow up and factor in reality. So, let the human rights long hairs moan and groan. Thailand is doing just fine, thank you -- again, when compared to the neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presnock Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 The student demonstrations were blocking the further education of the paying students that were not participating in the demonstrations! when a couple of thousand students were arrested around the US, the majority of the colleges were trying to continue teaching for the payment of tuitions as the end of the school year approaches. One can demonstrate peacefully but those demonstrators were preventing the schools doing their jobs and impeding on the rights of the other students. Now those arrested will probably beg Biden to forgive their college loans too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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