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17 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

Wasn't that just a Covid thing so went away along with compulsory PCR Tests & the one night mandatory isolation etc...?. 

Yes, it was a nightmare. Most people had to go through hell to get the Pass,  and when and if it eventually arrived it was past it’s valid date. 

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On 9/4/2024 at 1:56 PM, snoop1130 said:

The Thai ETA is required for travellers from nearly 100 visa-waiver countries, including Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, Canada, the United States, Singapore, China, Hong Kong, and most European nations

and most europeans nations ?  I have never heard of it.  Which european countries?

Posted
18 hours ago, redwood1 said:

 

So the ETA will decide if you come to Thailand too much?

Apparently people from Laos and other neighbouring countries wil have to apply for an ETA too. Many do border runs every 45 days. They will be more at risk I think.

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On 9/4/2024 at 1:38 PM, redwood1 said:

Bla Bla Bla Bureaucrats have nothing better to do than think up new bothersome rules......  All for our convenience of course.....lol.........

 

Hey what happend to the Thai Pass? ......It was a mandatory paper that all MUST  have when entering Thailand........But its been completely forgotten about.......Like I think this nonsense will be forgotten...

 

if you were more widely travelled, instead of spending time thai bashing, you'd know that thailand is merely following many other countries in implementing an ETA

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20 minutes ago, daejung said:

Apparently people from Laos and other neighbouring countries wil have to apply for an ETA too. Many do border runs every 45 days. They will be more at risk I think.

The illiterate have another cash hurdle to pass if no-one can help them.

 

Place is a joke for all this crap now. They could apply it as a means of psychological war torture.

 

Posted
11 hours ago, Wongkitlo said:

I was not claiming anything. I was questioning how self check in can work with ETAs considering it is the airline's responsibility to repatriate if somebody arrives without the correct documentation.

Your comment referred to an existing arrangement, ESTA, so you were obviously aware of how that is currently operating when making the post. Weren't  you?

 

Also you appear to be misinformed regarding denial of entry. If you read the conditions of carriage you will find that the airline has the right to reclaim ALL expenses regarding repatriation from the passenger.

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Your comment referred to an existing arrangement, ESTA, so you were obviously aware of how that is currently operating when making the post. Weren't  you?

 

Also you appear to be misinformed regarding denial of entry. If you read the conditions of carriage you will find that the airline has the right to reclaim ALL expenses regarding repatriation from the passenger.

No. I am not aware. Why would I have heard of ESTAs if  I am not from the USA and have no intention of travelling there or to Europe etc? Yes. The airline can reclaim the costs of passage but needs to actually get the money. If the  passenger claims they do not have or refuses to pay they still need to provide carriage and somehow reclaim the money later. 

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Posted
17 hours ago, VBF said:

Although it doesn't say, I would think that it would only be required from those who already need a visa.

Quite the opposite.

ESTA, ETIAS, ETA etc etc are all schemes for those who do not need a visa,  i.e. travelling on visa waiver,  visa exempt etc.

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6 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

No. I am not aware. Why would I have heard of ESTAs if  I am not from the USA and have no intention of travelling there or to Europe etc?

So why quote it in a post?

If your sole concern is the Thai ETA, why not wait for the facts rather than posting unsubstantiated garbage.

If you can't wait, the best indicator will lie in how other countries have implemented a similar scheme. Maybe you should research ESTA.

Posted
34 minutes ago, sandyf said:

So why quote it in a post?

If your sole concern is the Thai ETA, why not wait for the facts rather than posting unsubstantiated garbage.

If you can't wait, the best indicator will lie in how other countries have implemented a similar scheme. Maybe you should research ESTA.

I am sorry your life is so boring you need to waste it misinterpreting my posts. I did not quote anything but was questioning how it would work with self check-in. I was willing for somebody to explain that to me but instead I had your quite antagonistic replies. It has little interest to me as I do not use visa exempt but am always slightly interested in processes. 

Posted
On 9/5/2024 at 8:03 AM, klauskunkel said:

So you enter some data on a website and this makes you trackable? How? I don't understand the mechanics of it...

Especially where the data you enter is literally the data from your passport. The same data that they'd scan currently when you enter...

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, sandyf said:
22 hours ago, VBF said:

Although it doesn't say, I would think that it would only be required from those who already need a visa.

Quite the opposite.

ESTA, ETIAS, ETA etc etc are all schemes for those who do not need a visa,  i.e. travelling on visa waiver,  visa exempt etc.

You're quite correct!!!!!!

 

I meant, and my post SHOULD have said:

"Although it doesn't say, I would think that it would only be required from those who already need a visa  DO NOT HOLD ANY SORT OF visa.

 

It was in response to @marin  and @Lacessit who were discussing people who already hold  a retirement visa,

 

 :sorry: and well done @sandyf for being the only one to spot that!  I'll pay more attention in future 😮

 

 

 

UPDATE

 

New thread here with hopefully more accurate information

https://aseannow.com/topic/1337466-new-travel-rules-thailand’s-eta-to-shake-up-visa-free-visitors/

 

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Posted (edited)

Pretty stupid and misleading headline.

Australian via-waiver is not the only one covered  by that proposed new scheme.

It applies to all 93 nations instead.

 

Those on Tourist Visa, Visa on arrival, holders of other Thai Visas are not affected.

Therefore, people on Retirement-O(with the re-entry permit) can stay out of it.

 

Info source:

siam-legal.com/travel-to-thailand/electronic-travel-authorization-for-visa-free-travelers-to-thailand/#:~:text=All%20visitors%20traveling%20to%20Thailand,for%20every%20entry%20into%20Thailand.

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Posted (edited)

this ETA is at same time , when Visa exempt stays was increase.

 

i think real reason , everybody stay more 6 month will not receive an ETA and must apply for Visa 

 

so simple ,just a click away to track all ,and boarderruns  and so on are finnished

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On 9/5/2024 at 7:00 AM, bkkcanuck8 said:

ETA is pretty well universal in the western world, not a surprise that it is coming to Thailand... and to be quite honest using automated immigration gates as a tradeoff for having to get an ETA... I would take that exchange any day of the week.

Apart from the US, where else in the western world uses ETAs?

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When I flew to the US several years ago as a guest speaker at a convention I  had my tickets etc, had asked if anything else was needed and told no, Upon arriving at check in I was asled for my esta, I told them I was not told about it but they said without I could not fly and directed me to an internet lounge where I could apply for one online. Up until that stage I was not informed it was necessary by anyone and I had asked the US consulate and they didnt tell me it was needed. 

I can see a lot of problems with this knowing how bad Thailand is at online services and lack of response when asking questions, they will certainly need to improve on their current abilities to make it work properly and to not have so many system breakdowns as they do currently

Posted
9 hours ago, retarius said:

Apart from the US, where else in the western world uses ETAs?

Canada (eTA), US (ESTA), Australia (ETA or eVisitor), NZ (NZeTA), UK (ETA) - expected to be fully implemented by 2024, EU (ETIAS) - Coming Soon / AKA 2024.

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Posted (edited)

New Zealand charges NZ $17 to apply and NZ $100 tourism charge from next week (increased from NZ $35)!

 

That's the same cost as my 10 year passport cost!

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