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2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Well, if you only choose to listen to western media I guess you will always be uninformed on certain aspects.

Or if I choose to to listen to Putins announcements and come to the same conclusion? 

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On 11/2/2024 at 5:45 PM, SingAPorn said:

In fact he  h a s  crossed the boundry line many many times. But still I would vote for him.

 

All that just to say how bad the Biden gang must be for people to continue voting Trump despite all the red, blue, white, rainbow lines he allegedly has crossed (or not). Much of the world is fed up in the current US policies and double standards, mainly in handling the current situation in Israel and the unfair stance against Russia in what is going on in Ukraine.

Oh dear me. Another ignorant Trump man.....

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6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I realize how difficult it must be to accept his decline and his many faults. Even his staff is alarmed at how far off course he has wandered lately. 

The prediction markets don't see it this way. Indeed the gap is widening. Hopefully find out one way or the other tomorrow.

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1 hour ago, Hugh Jarse said:

Always view polls with more than an air of scepticism. Who is funding them?

As I have said many times that's why looking at organisations that take the average from across the board and prediction markets may give a more accurate view. Taking a single poll as evidence is simply ludicrous.

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5 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Trump is going to hand over Ukraine on a silver platter and probably leave NATO. Emboldened Xi will then embark on completing  his life’s work of reunifying China, Invading Taiwan without a peep of protest from the US 

 

Yeah, they want Harris.
Tell me more Einstein. 

 

I think you'll find as time is marching on Putin is already taking more and more of Ukraine.

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On 11/3/2024 at 1:43 AM, save the frogs said:

 

Did you ever read Shakespeare? You need to read between the lines.

 

It isn't about Trump. It's about the entire electoral process. Trump is basically telling you, if you learn to read between the lines, that the entire electoral process is a SCAM. Because democracy doesn't exist. 

 

If it did, they wouldn't be acting so crazy. There might be 1000 candidates to choose from in a real democracy and they would need to work really really really hard to impress you.

 

But because it's a scam and the country is an oligarchy, they can crack jokes and act stupid all day long.

 

Because they already own the joint,

 

Me, I need to work for a living. People who own the joint can afford to act stupid all day long. 

 

Don't waste your time voting. Go get a soapy massage instead. 

 

The democracy becomes a joke with people who is not aware of their responsibilities! 

 

Stupidity is what it is

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On 11/3/2024 at 12:59 AM, frank83628 said:

Wake up to the fact you are living in the past

Living in the past? OK, true as I recall the 2014 unilateral of seizing the  Crimea by Russia. Fault can be found in not seeing NATO react more strongly, I suppose, but then it would just have been accused of saber rattling.

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9 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Modern democracy which isn't really democratic requires that the general population is well educated and well informed through at least one unbiased media outlet, neither can be said to apply to the USA.

 

"unbiased media outlet", yes, we might need them for a better working democracy, voters may better understand where they vote for. However, this is in an ideal world.

 

Let's now look a countries like Russia, China, N-Korea. What do you think about their presence of an "unbiased media outlet" ?

 

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Trump goes down only if the majority of the American citizens vote. We are all well aware that he has a well organized vocal minority dedicated to him alone. And some of us remember what is possible of a well organized vocal minority in history … thus, yes, there is an undeniable danger to the USA

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8 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Living in the past? OK, true as I recall the 2014 unilateral of seizing the  Crimea by Russia. Fault can be found in not seeing NATO react more strongly, I suppose, but then it would just have been accused of saber rattling.

was there not a referendum on Crimea? majority voted to join

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3 minutes ago, oustaristocrats said:

 

"unbiased media outlet", yes, we might need them for a better working democracy, voters may better understand where they vote for. However, this is in an ideal world.

 

Let's now look a countries like Russia, China, N-Korea. What do you think about their presence of an "unbiased media outlet" ?

 

but how do you know exactly how they are doing things when you only hear from Western media?  bbc, cnn, used to be in Russia, things only changed in 2014 when the Ukraine troubles began.

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10 minutes ago, oustaristocrats said:

 

"unbiased media outlet", yes, we might need them for a better working democracy, voters may better understand where they vote for. However, this is in an ideal world.

 

Let's now look a countries like Russia, China, N-Korea. What do you think about their presence of an "unbiased media outlet" ?

 

Why mention these three? they neither pretend to be democracies nor were they the subject of my post. Most news in the world is biased, there are rare exceptions but the listener is now incapable of discerning truth from falsehood and even if, it will be ignored if it goes against ingrained political views. There are swing states in the US because politics has nothing to do with logic in the US, the other states will adhere to 'their' political party regardless of the candidates suitability leaving only a few states who actually think about what is on offer, primitive tribalism. Since the West is basically ruled by the elite, conglomerates, central banks and the military industrial complex, tempered perhaps by the stock market and international events it makes voting just as pointless as the votes given by the central committees in China. It was Americas own Mark Twain who said if elections made any difference they would be banned.

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3 hours ago, Hummin said:

The democracy becomes a joke with people who is not aware of their responsibilities! 

 

Stupidity is what it is

Responsibilities to what? None of the candidates have policies that will improve anyone's life.

 

That's why the main focus of the threads has been Trump's criminal history and Kamala's nuttiness. 

 

I don't see universal health care being discussed. 

 

Democracy becomes a joke when all the candidates are a joke.

 

Sorry if that's too deep for you.

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4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I hope so! But we won't know until tomorrow, or maybe even will have to wait days after that for the final vote tally. 

 

   Will have to wait until the morning , when voting has finished and all the officials have gone home and all the voting regulators have gone home and the office door is left unlocked as well as the polling boxes and the votes can be counted in the morning 

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