Help needed with one question about UK frozen state pension.

[Keith5588]

17 minutes ago, Goodison said:

@Keith5588 I know which YTer your talking about. IMO if your going to go the Philippines for 6 months to reset your state pension you need more than what somebody at DWP told you on the phone. Mike Lister said he had to get his MP involved to put pressure on the DWP to acknowledge he was habitually resident in the UK and it would be easier in the UK as you have an MP and need to be habitually resident to also get back your no charge at point of use access to the NHS. 

Thank you @Goodison I totally agree with you in that concerning something like this you would need it in writing from the DWP.  I had already thought the same as you that a phone conversation is not good enough especially as many people seem to be confused. Also if you paused the YTer video at the 3 places to read the messages I really did not understand the second one.

I also agree with you that the same applies concerning the NHS, it is being regarded as permanent resident that matters, nothing to do with a period of time etc. 

[Keith5588]

6 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

My pension has remained the same as 2019, it has neither been uprated or reverted back to the pre 2016 rate.

Thank you @chiang mai. You have confirmed that the UK state pension can indeed be increased permanently to the current level. This is so confusing.

I will be in the UK early next year when I intend to start my UK state pension at age 72. Yes I have intensionally deferred. Luckily at the moment I feel very healthy and my plan is to live to 102, so another 30 years 🙂 

While in the UK I will myself contact DWP or the International Pension Centre and try to have the situation clarified in writing. 

Thanks again

[treetops]

6 hours ago, jori123 said:

as usual, a load of rubbish.  Comment please where you read that "agreement" lol

 

What are you on about?

 

The agreement is a matter of record, made into law years ago.

 

I was responding to oxo1947 who asked if anyone knew the reason(s) for this being in place.  I mentioned I didn't know the accuracy of this potential reason, but given that the purpose of these agreements is as below, it seems a valid reason, but again I don't know this, just read it somewhere in the past.

 

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The main purpose of such reciprocal agreements is to protect the social security position of workers moving between the two countries during their working lives. They prevent employees, their employers and the self-employed from having to pay social security contributions to both the home state and the state of employment at the same time and ensure that such workers' rights to certain benefits are maintained.

Source Hansard

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2002-05-16/debates/ca3d00e4-fa43-4893-9c6a-c72ed71a4ea7/InternationalSocialSecurityAgreements