OneMoreFarang Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 46 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Israel is a Jewish Nation, Germany killed 6 Million Jews . German/European Jews were killed in a war . It wasn't Countries fighting each other . It was one race of people trying to eliminate another race of people from existence . It was the pallys favourite : The intentional Genocide of innocent men women and children . A real genocide, not the fake "genocide " like in Gaza today What makes the genocide in Gaza fake? The fact that some Israeli politicians pretend it doesn't happen? The Israelis killed about 20,000 innocent Palestinian women and children in the last year. They knew and know that they do that. But somehow, they pretend its collateral damage. There must be somewhere 2 or 3 terrorists left so just bomb everything and everybody. One day we will kill also those last terrorists. Yeah, sure. 2
Nick Carter icp Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 Just now, bannork said: Gaza is well on its way to becoming a genocide. Intentionally deprived of food and drinking water, Israel should be ashamed of itself They have been on the brink of starvation for 13 months now , when will you start to question their claims of being on the brink of a catastrophic starvation ? (Especially when in the photos, Gazians seem to be rather chubby and overweight ) 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, bannork said: Gaza is well on its way to becoming a genocide. Intentionally deprived of food and drinking water, Israel should be ashamed of itself Nonsense, hows Hamas doing lately?
Nick Carter icp Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 Just now, OneMoreFarang said: The Israelis killed about 20,000 innocent Palestinian women and children in the last year. Its a war , innocent people get killed in all wars , why should this war be any different to all other wars . Anyway, better to get back on topic 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: What makes the genocide in Gaza fake? The fact that some Israeli politicians pretend it doesn't happen? The Israelis killed about 20,000 innocent Palestinian women and children in the last year. They knew and know that they do that. But somehow, they pretend its collateral damage. There must be somewhere 2 or 3 terrorists left so just bomb everything and everybody. One day we will kill also those last terrorists. Yeah, sure. The fact that Genocide is a legal term and is not taking place 1 1
Evil Penevil Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Germany owes Israel six million people The video below gives an excellent explanation of how the Nazis "sold" the Holocaust to the German people. The situation is eeriely similar to the concerted campaign to destroy Israel that Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, various Muslim countries and support groups all over the world are carrying out today, especially through the U.N. and its agencies. I can see from some of the posts on AN that the new wave of antisemitism has won over converts. History is indeed repeating itself. 1 1 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Ok, so how many terrorists did Israel soldiers and American bombs kill? And how many innocent people? 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: The Israelis killed about 20,000 innocent Palestinian women and children in the last year. You may as well sit there having the discussion on your own . You asked a question and then answered the question yourself . You asked a question and then answered it 1
AgMech Cowboy Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 17 hours ago, save the frogs said: how did he guess he was from israel? Most likely he was wearing a yamaka. 1
bannork Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: They have been on the brink of starvation for 13 months now , when will you start to question their claims of being on the brink of a catastrophic starvation ? (Especially when in the photos, Gazians seem to be rather chubby and overweight ) https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155836 1
bannork Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Nonsense, hows Hamas doing lately? https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155836 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 12 minutes ago, bannork said: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155836 Try adding a commentary to that nearly 2 month old link. Is it supposed to back up your false claim? 1
Patong2021 Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 19 hours ago, save the frogs said: could be fake news. psychological warfare. always make yourself look like the victim. I'm tired of reading articles about "anti-semitism". the wars in the middle east need to end. plain and simple. You always have the same claim of there being a conspiracy to mislead. It gives the impression that you are using the event as an opportunity to express your own biased hatred of people. 1
Patong2021 Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: What makes the genocide in Gaza fake? The fact that some Israeli politicians pretend it doesn't happen? The Israelis killed about 20,000 innocent Palestinian women and children in the last year. They knew and know that they do that. But somehow, they pretend its collateral damage. There must be somewhere 2 or 3 terrorists left so just bomb everything and everybody. One day we will kill also those last terrorists. Yeah, sure. You have a different definition for genocide when it involves Israel. If there was a genocide in Gaza there would be an overall reduction in the population, but there has not been. On the contrary, the population of Gaza has still increased. Gaza has been pumping out babies at the rate of of approx. 27/1000 population. Gazan women are veritable reproduction machines churning out an average of 4 per woman. Most of the dead in Gaza are Hamas militant related, either combat personnel or support personnel involved in logistics, command & control and administration. Approx. 45,000 are reported dead. That's not a very effective genocide. It's not as if you don't have actual genocides in the region to benchmark against. You know, something like the mass slaughter of Africans in Darfur. 100,000+ and increasing. 1 1 1
Patong2021 Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 The topic is a reported attack on an Israeli by people identified as German. I doubt the attackers were native born Germans. As rude as they might be, even the modern day Germany right wing groups typically don't do that. I will not be surprised if the attackers are anything but German. It is like the moto jerks in Phuket who are described as French when they are more likely to self identify as North African. 1
Evil Penevil Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: What makes the genocide in Gaza fake? "Fake" is an inappropriate word in this case. It's a false accusation of genocide. Pro-Palestinians are equating a large number of civilian deaths with genocide and that's just wrong. According to the definition of genocide used by the U.N. in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the intent mof genocide is "to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." See Article II at https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/1948-convention Israel's intent is not to eliminate the Palestinian people but Hamas as a terrorist organization. A large number of civilians have died in Gaza because Hamas used them as human shields to protect its tunnel system and other military targets. The situation is akin to the civilian deaths caused by Allied aerial bombing in Germany and Japanduring WWII. An estimated 100,000 civilians were killed in the fire bombing of Tokyo, while over 100,00 civilians immediately died from the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Dresden fire bombing killed at least 25,000 civilians and the bombing of Hamburg about 43,000. Tens of thousands of other civilians died in the bombing of other cities in Japan and Germany. Why would the Israel bombing of civilians in Gaza be considered genocide when the Allied bombing of German and Japan isn't? 1
Social Media Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 A post that violated fair use policy has been removed . 27. You will not post any copyrighted material except as fair use laws apply (as in the case of news articles). Only post a link, the headline and three sentences from the article. Content in the public domain is limited to the same restrictions.
bannork Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: "Fake" is an inappropriate word in this case. It's a false accusation of genocide. Pro-Palestinians are equating a large number of civilian deaths with genocide and that's just wrong. According to the definition of genocide used by the U.N. in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the intent mof genocide is "to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." See Article II at https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/1948-convention Israel's intent is not to eliminate the Palestinian people but Hamas as a terrorist organization. A large number of civilians have died in Gaza because Hamas used them as human shields to protect its tunnel system and other military targets. The situation is akin to the civilian deaths caused by Allied aerial bombing in Germany and Japanduring WWII. An estimated 100,000 civilians were killed in the fire bombing of Tokyo, while over 100,00 civilians immediately died from the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Dresden fire bombing killed at least 25,000 civilians and the bombing of Hamburg about 43,000. Tens of thousands of other civilians died in the bombing of other cities in Japan and Germany. Why would the Israel bombing of civilians in Gaza be considered genocide when the Allied bombing of German and Japan isn't? The situation is not akin at all. The Allies have never been accused of committing genocide on Germany and Japan, however, they have been accused by some of war crimes by their bombing of civilian areas. But there was never an attempt to wipe out the entire populations of Japan and Germany. In Gaza, however, many suspect the huge number of civilian casualties, destruction of hospitals and denial of food aid by Israel is in effect genocide of the Palestinian people. 1 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, bannork said: The situation is not akin at all. The Allies have never been accused of committing genocide on Germany and Japan, however, they have been accused by some of war crimes by their bombing of civilian areas. But there was never an attempt to wipe out the entire populations of Japan and Germany. In Gaza, however, many suspect the huge number of civilian casualties, destruction of hospitals and denial of food aid by Israel is in effect genocide of the Palestinian people. Yes Hamas agrees with you, they have clearly said that they sacrifice the civilian population in Gaza. However the topic here is about a German tourist attacked in Thailand, not your baseless accusations of Genocide.
save the frogs Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 9 hours ago, Patong2021 said: You always have the same claim of there being a conspiracy to mislead. It gives the impression that you are using the event as an opportunity to express your own biased hatred of people. I could be wrong, but conspiracy fake news articles to mislead may occur more than you wish to acknowledge.
bannork Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes Hamas agrees with you, they have clearly said that they sacrifice the civilian population in Gaza. However the topic here is about a German tourist attacked in Thailand, not your baseless accusations of Genocide. I was responding to another poster's point regarding genocide. In your haste to defend Israel at any cost you seem to have misunderstood the thread, now you're claiming a German tourist was attacked!
Bkk Brian Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 Just now, bannork said: I was responding to another poster's point regarding genocide. In your haste to defend Israel at any cost you seem to have misunderstood the thread, now you're claiming a German tourist was attacked! I know you were responding to another poster and there is no genocide. Calm down no I am not claiming a German was attacked that was quite obviously a mistake. It was an Israeli attacked. 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 3 hours ago, bannork said: The situation is not akin at all. The Allies have never been accused of committing genocide on Germany and Japan, however, they have been accused by some of war crimes by their bombing of civilian areas. But there was never an attempt to wipe out the entire populations of Japan and Germany. In Gaza, however, many suspect the huge number of civilian casualties, destruction of hospitals and denial of food aid by Israel is in effect genocide of the Palestinian people. There hasn't been a huge number of civilian casualties though in Gaza . The false allegations are a strategy used by Hamas to try and win the war . Israel could have killed every Palestinian by now, if it wanted to do that 1 1
OneMoreFarang Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its a war , innocent people get killed in all wars , why should this war be any different to all other wars . Anyway, better to get back on topic Yes, innocent people get killed in all wars. But in some wars more than in others. Especially when those innocent people are considered dogs. Who cares about killing a couple of stray dogs... 1
Bkk Brian Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Yes, innocent people get killed in all wars. But in some wars more than in others. Especially when those innocent people are considered dogs. Who cares about killing a couple of stray dogs... Exactly Hamas don't care who they kill do they. By the way: All available evidence shows that Israel has followed the laws of war, legal obligations, best practices in civilian harm mitigation and still found a way to reduce civilian casualties. But like the OP, attack Israeli's and blame them instead. 1 1
Nick Carter icp Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Yes, innocent people get killed in all wars. But in some wars more than in others. Especially when those innocent people are considered dogs. Who cares about killing a couple of stray dogs... But the average civilian causalities '' in wars is about 90 % and in the Gaza war the figure is about 50 % . So, the Gaza war has less civilian casualties that in other wars . Those are U,N figures as well
Nick Carter icp Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: What makes the genocide in Gaza fake? The fact that some Israeli politicians pretend it doesn't happen? The Israelis killed about 20,000 innocent Palestinian women and children in the last year. They knew and know that they do that. But somehow, they pretend its collateral damage. There must be somewhere 2 or 3 terrorists left so just bomb everything and everybody. One day we will kill also those last terrorists. Yeah, sure. There is about 10 000 Hamas terrorists left in Gaza .
Yagoda Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 22 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Ok, so how many terrorists did Israel soldiers and American bombs kill? And how many innocent people? And what is the future for the people who used to live in Gaza? If people have no future, then don't be surprised if the desperate do desperate things. 1. Not enough and there are no innocents 2. Who cares. Pave it over and put Trump casinos on it. 3. Not if there are none left. I remember watching the WTC come down. My response is: Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. Kill them all. The Lord will know those that are his. Thats what the Socialists and their evil allies do. Payback is a medevac. Sooner of later they will give up. Start with Iran, they are defenceless and the risk to our heroes is minimized.
Yagoda Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: There is about 10 000 Hamas terrorists left in Gaza . Nukes
Jaggg88 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 On 12/2/2024 at 3:45 AM, save the frogs said: the wars in the middle east need to end. plain and simple. I will be 70 years old next year and there have been wars in the Middle East all my life. Anti-semitism is rife among young people and that doesn't help to bring peace anywhere 1
mdr224 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 12 minutes ago, Jaggg88 said: I will be 70 years old next year and there have been wars in the Middle East all my life. Anti-semitism is rife among young people and that doesn't help to bring peace anywhere Old people too. Many brainwashed by media that arabs are friends of white people 1
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