Trump’s Proposal for Gazan Relocation makes perfect sense

[MicroB]

5 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

It's really time for all the fellow good hearted Muslims to do the right things and accept those poor oppressed Palestinian people    

 

Really, Gaza can be the Paris of the Middle East ......

 

Why not Good Hearted Americans?

[MicroB]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why should he?

 

Communist Apologist,

 

It was his apparent concern for the hostages that made him authorise the recent transfer of arms to Israel, using someone else's money.

[phetphet]

OK Donald. You give the Gazans Alaska, and you can build your new Trump Gaza Mar a Lago dream resort on the building site.

 

Sounds like a fair swap.

[spidermike007]

The aspects that neither this post nor Trump take into account are the fact that there is not a single Arab nation that wants the Palestinians. They are pariah's amongst their fellow Muslims. So right from the outset his idea was not only completely inane, but very poorly informed as is typical for the man. 

 

It is likely a strategy to either allow Israel to take over that territory, or allow Trump to auction off that territory to his rich developer friends, for high-end resorts and developments. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 2/4/2025 at 1:05 PM, Callmeishmael said:

Arabs don't like to admit it publicly, but they don't want the Palestinians to settle in their country.

Not sure where you're getting that impression from. Arab countries (especially Jordan and Egypt) have been saying publicly that they don't want to accept more Palestinian refugees for years now.

 

Here's an example from 2023.

 

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Jordan’s King Abdullah II gave a similar message a day earlier, saying, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”

 

Why Egypt and other Arab countries are unwilling to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza

 

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-jordan-egypt-israel-refugee-502c06d004767d4b64848d878b66bd3d

[Bkk Brian]

15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The aspects that neither this post nor Trump take into account are the fact that there is not a single Arab nation that wants the Palestinians. They are pariah's amongst their fellow Muslims. So right from the outset his idea was not only completely inane, but very poorly informed as is typical for the man. 

 

It is likely a strategy to either allow Israel to take over that territory, or allow Trump to auction off that territory to his rich developer friends, for high-end resorts and developments. 

No the aspects left out is that the war is not over yet, the hostages are still being held by the terrorists and the terrorists themselves are roaming freely. Until they are eliminated there will always be a danger to Israel and another Oct 7th or worse.

[Nick Carter icp]

31 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The aspects that neither this post nor Trump take into account are the fact that there is not a single Arab nation that wants the Palestinians. They are pariah's amongst their fellow Muslims. So right from the outset his idea was not only completely inane, but very poorly informed as is typical for the man. 

 

It is likely a strategy to either allow Israel to take over that territory, or allow Trump to auction off that territory to his rich developer friends, for high-end resorts and developments. 

 

   Ireland, Spain and Norway love the Palestinians , they can go and live there 

[connda]

As long as it's voluntary.

[The Fugitive]

On 2/4/2025 at 1:05 PM, Callmeishmael said:

There are 2 reasons why this relocation plan will never fly:

1.  The Palestinians believe, with some justification, that if they leave they will never be allowed to return.

2.  Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait and other Arab nations have accepted Palestinian refugees in the past and soon came to regret it.  Palestinian extremists assassinated the Jordanian King and tried to overthrow the government.  Palestinian refugees openly welcome the Iraqi invaders when they took over Kuwait.  Palestinian refugees contributed to the unrest that led to Lebanon's decades long civil war.  Palestinian groups have ties to the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

A sizable percent of Palestinians have been radicalized by generations of grievances, so they often do not live peaceably with their neighbors.  Arabs don't like to admit it publicly, but they don't want the Palestinians to settle in their country.

Top comment!

[The Fugitive]

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why should there be? Oh yea, forgot it was you, here you go.....................

 

"As hostages are released from Gaza, some of the world’s most dangerous terrorists are walking out of prison. "

 

 

 

Have all the released Palestinian prisoners been convicted? That involves evidence and representation for the accused. Have they exhausted their entitlement to appeal?

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Have all the released Palestinian prisoners been convicted? That involves evidence and representation for the accused. Have they exhausted their entitlement to appeal?

Why not do a search and let us all know. I'll then get back to you with a lot more of the terrorists that have been released after conviction in return for innocent hostages abducted in Israel. Including babies and the elderly

[spot]

On 2/3/2025 at 1:16 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

That's a reasonable punishment for the Palestinians  for their crimes on Oct 7 th .

  For thr atrocities and crimes on Oct 7 th and for the previous numerous attacks going back 70 odd years , 

   Their punishment would be to forfeit the land of Gaza and give it to the Israel, as punishment and compensation 

You clearly need to read some history about this.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, connda said:

As long as it's voluntary.

Under Trump and Netanyahu it will NOT be voluntary.

 

What will happen if the Palestinians refuse to go?

 

Will they be forced to go? How do you force 2 million people to leave the country where they and their ancestors have lived all their lives?

 

Which countries will take them in and pay for them for generations? Neither the USA nor Israel could afford to do that.

 

 

[spot]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

No the aspects left out is that the war is not over yet, the hostages are still being held by the terrorists and the terrorists themselves are roaming freely. Until they are eliminated there will always be a danger to Israel and another Oct 7th or worse.

The aspects of the this left out are the historical facts leading up to the conflict. Why these two peoples have been enemies for many years, before Oct 7th?

The US and British creation of this mess goes back much further than Oct 7th.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, spot said:

The aspects of the this left out are the historical facts leading up to the conflict. Why these two peoples have been enemies for many years, before Oct 7th?

The US and British creation of this mess goes back much further than Oct 7th.

There's a topic on the history. 

[spot]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

There's a topic on the history. 

Maybe some, or Trump himself reading this topic should pop over there? But he knows right. 

 

Better still, maybe some should get some history books., or even ask one of the AI chat places to give a concise and easy answer. I just asked, and it summed the whole conflict up in a few easy to read chunks. 

 

I now know that the land belonged to and was lived on by the Palestinians long before the European settlers got there. Ring any bells?

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, spot said:

Maybe some, or Trump himself reading this topic should pop over there? But he knows right. 

 

Better still, maybe some should get some history books., or even ask one of the AI chat places to give a concise and easy answer. I just asked, and it summed the whole conflict up in a few easy to read chunks. 

 

I now know that the land belonged to and was lived on by the Palestinians long before the European settlers got there. Ring any bells?

 

Here, topic.............

 

Why Did Hamas Attack Israel on Oct 7th 2023 a Historical Perspective

https://aseannow.com/topic/1324728-why-did-hamas-attack-israel-on-oct-7th-2023-a-historical-perspective/

 

[spot]

21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here, topic.............

 

Why Did Hamas Attack Israel on Oct 7th 2023 a Historical Perspective

https://aseannow.com/topic/1324728-why-did-hamas-attack-israel-on-oct-7th-2023-a-historical-perspective/

 

Read it. Misses out a lot of detail and fact. According to the article, this conflict (Israel vs Palestine) has only been going on since the 1980s.

 

The article doesn’t mention the deeper historical roots of the conflict, particularly the role of European colonialism, Zionist settlement, and British imperialism in shaping the Israeli-Palestinian struggle.

 

So, back to Trump. He's going to create bigger, future conflicts, and many more anti American problems in the region by sticking with this 'business' plan. His plan is nothing less than imperialism (see above for reasons why the problem was started in the first place) - which he said he wasn't going to get involved in.

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, spot said:

Read it. Misses out a lot of detail and fact. According to the article, this conflict (Israel vs Palestine) has only been going on since the 1980s.

 

The article doesn’t mention the deeper historical roots of the conflict, particularly the role of European colonialism, Zionist settlement, and British imperialism in shaping the Israeli-Palestinian struggle.

 

So, back to Trump. He's going to create bigger, future conflicts, and many more anti American problems in the region by sticking with this 'business' plan. His plan is nothing less than imperialism (see above for reasons why the problem was started in the first place) - which he said he wasn't going to get involved in.

 

 

 

 

Read it, its an article not a book and it was a history from the Hamas historical perspective, the clue is in the title, of course it does not contain everything, now try reading the OP

[Nick Carter icp]

55 minutes ago, spot said:

You clearly need to read some history about this.

 

   History has nothing to do with this , this is about the future

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

No the aspects left out is that the war is not over yet, the hostages are still being held by the terrorists and the terrorists themselves are roaming freely. Until they are eliminated there will always be a danger to Israel and another Oct 7th or worse.

No the aspect that's being left out is that the terrorists will never be eliminated, ever. Not in our lifetime, not ever. The more Israel bombs the Palestinians the more terrorists are created, the more the US invades countries like a Iraq and Afghanistan the more terrorists are created.

 

The US and Israel are a wet dream for terrorist recruiters, you don't get that by now? It is an ancient concept called blowback. Blowback my take a year, blowback my take a decade, blowback might take a century, but blowback is real and blowback happens, and we seem to encourage it. 

 

Thinking that endless bombing, endless genocide, and endless killing of civilians will somehow eliminate terrorists is absolute and pure hubris, and built upon a foundation of ignorance. 

[scorecard]

On 2/3/2025 at 6:38 PM, bunnydrops said:

So, who would get the land? Trump or Israel.

 

Good question. Quite possibly win - win!

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Ireland, Spain and Norway love the Palestinians , they can go and live there 

As we have seen supporting the Palestinian cause, and allowing Palestinians to live within your borders are two completely things. 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

No the aspect that's being left out is that the terrorists will never be eliminated, ever. Not in our lifetime, not ever. The more Israel bombs the Palestinians the more terrorists are created, the more the US invades countries like a Iraq and Afghanistan the more terrorists are created.

 

The US and Israel are a wet dream for terrorist recruiters, you don't get that by now? It is an ancient concept called blowback. Blowback my take a year, blowback my take a decade, blowback might take a century, but blowback is real and blowback happens, and we seem to encourage it. 

 

Thinking that endless bombing, endless genocide, and endless killing of civilians will somehow eliminate terrorists is absolute and pure hubris, and built upon a foundation of ignorance. 

Rubbish, they can be eliminated enough so they can't ever be a major threat again for another Oct 7th. The rest of your post resorts to more unfounded claims about genocide and insinuating that Israel is deliberately killing civilians.

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

As we have seen supporting the Palestinian cause, and allowing Palestinians to live within your borders are two completely things. 

 

   Did you miss a word out ?

[The Fugitive]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why not do a search and let us all know. I'll then get back to you with a lot more of the terrorists that have been released after conviction in return for innocent hostages abducted in Israel. Including babies and the elderly

I don't need to do anything. We all know the answer. Internment didn't go down well in Northern Ireland either.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, The Fugitive said:

I don't need to do anything. We all know the answer. Internment didn't go down well in Northern Ireland either.

So you expect me to provide you with information because you cant be bothered to do it yourself.

 

Oh gawd, northern Ireland..............

 

Here's another couple of terrorist scum being released in exchange for innocent hostages

 

https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1884700947584344492

 

https://x.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1884701183605891191

 

[Lacessit]

No other Arab country wants the Palestinians.

 

Until the Palestinians have a state recognized by everyone, the wound will continue to fester. The US does not recognize Palestine.

 

Until all Arab/Muslim nations, INCLUDING Palestine, recognize Israel has a right to exist, ditto.

 

Jews and Arabs used to coexist peacefully.

 

 

[theblether]

Going to be brutally honest. After watching the uncensored extended footage of October 7 I don't give a flying **** about the Palestinians. 

 

Inhumane savagery celebrated in the streets by hundreds of thousands who ripped corpses to pieces. That girl you saw, the one raped, lying face down with her legs broken on the pick up? They found a piece of her skull before her body 

 

Desecrated in life, desecrated in death. 

 

Just like the young Thai man beheaded by a garden hoe. 

 

I know some of you are just trolling. However, try to stay out of the wretched gutter of Palestinian filth.  

[The Fugitive]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So you expect me to provide you with information because you cant be bothered to do it yourself.

 

Oh gawd, northern Ireland..............

 

Here's another couple of terrorist scum being released in exchange for innocent hostages

 

https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1884700947584344492

 

https://x.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1884701183605891191

You missed the point. The proven guilty who've been released are irrelevant. They're marked men anyway. Mossad are known for pursuing and assassinating people all over the world, even decades later.