Leaving food out

[KannikaP]

My Mrs regularly leaves food dishes out on the kitchen table, including rice which was cooked the night before. This morning I found a tub of left over KFC.

She, and other family incl. 4 year old, eat it no problem, with no side effects.

When I was at cookery college it was instilled in us not to leave anything at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. I also read that KFC (in UK) dispose of any food not sold within a certain length of time.

How does it work over here?

[ExpatOilWorker]

3 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

My Mrs regularly leaves food dishes out on the kitchen table, including rice which was cooked the night before. This morning I found a tub of left over KFC.

She, and other family incl. 4 year old, eat it no problem, with no side effects.

When I was at cookery college it was instilled in us not to leave anything at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. I also read that KFC (in UK) dispose of any food not sold within a certain length of time.

How does it work over here?

Time to educate your wife.

 

https://rightasrain.uwmedicine.org/body/food/leftover-rice-bacillus-cereus-food-poisoning#:~:text=Reheated rice syndrome is food,than a couple of hours.

[KannikaP]

1 minute ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Time to educate your wife.

 

https://rightasrain.uwmedicine.org/body/food/leftover-rice-bacillus-cereus-food-poisoning#:~:text=Reheated rice syndrome is food,than a couple of hours.

But she, and her family, have been doing it for years with no ill effects. 

I will re-heat food, including rice in the microwave, but make sure that it is too hot to eat straight away.

[Stocky]

6 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

My Mrs regularly leaves food dishes out on the kitchen table, including rice which was cooked the night before. This morning I found a tub of left over KFC.

She, and other family incl. 4 year old, eat it no problem, with no side effects.

When I was at cookery college it was instilled in us not to leave anything at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. I also read that KFC (in UK) dispose of any food not sold within a certain length of time.

How does it work over here?

Same here, though food isn't left out on the table, ants would be at it by morning, but we have a cabinet in the kitchen, metal sides with ventilation mesh, glass doors, the legs sit in little pots you fill with water to keep the ants away. Uneaten food goes in there, used up next day. In 20 years no one's died.

[BritManToo]

17 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

How does it work over here?

They build up immunity to the bacteria that makes our bums explode.

[novacova]

8 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

How does it work over here?

It’s different here, food can last for days without refrigeration compared to western countries where you’ll get food poisoning instantly if food isn’t rushed to the fridge quickly. Another plus for leaving food out is that it provides munchies for the little creepy crawlers.

[KannikaP]

Just now, novacova said:

It’s different here, food can last for days without refrigeration compared to western countries where you’ll get food poisoning instantly if food isn’t rushed to the fridge quickly. Another plus for leaving food out is that it provides munchies for the little creepy crawlers.

How? It's warmer here so bacteria can thrive, bugs etc get into it. But as you say, food poisoning is much more rife in Western countries.

[novacova]

2 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

How? It's warmer here so bacteria can thrive, bugs etc get into it. But as you say, food poisoning is much more rife in Western countries.

My wife doesn’t leave food out because I’m paranoid.

[steven100]

yes,  I've had friends leave rice, chicken and even fish out on the table for hours ...  I wouldn't touch it,  and I am always putting it in containers and in the fridge when that happens.  

[Dan O]

My wife and her family do the same with all cooked foods, pork, chicken, fish, any type of meat. It doesn't matter how long either it can be overnight or 3 days. They do the same if they thaw food. It can sit on the sink counter for a full day before they think about cooking it.  It makes me scratch my head because they are adamant on fruits, breads and deserts have to go in the refrigerator immediately though or it "goes bad". 

[Cameroni]

Biig C and Makro subscribe to the same theory and leave pork and chicken out unrefrigerated for hours. 

 

 

[save the frogs]

they probably have developed more immunity over the years than westerners.

 

in the household, maybe you can take your portions and refrigerate them and let them leave their portions out.

[Stocky]

51 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Same here, though food isn't left out on the table, ants would be at it by morning, but we have a cabinet in the kitchen, metal sides with ventilation mesh, glass doors, the legs sit in little pots you fill with water to keep the ants away. Uneaten food goes in there, used up next day. In 20 years no one's died.

It's like this one from Watsadu.

 

[Stocky]

23 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

they probably have developed more immunity over the years than westerners.

 

in the household, maybe you can take your portions and refrigerate them and let them leave their portions out.

Other way round I think, the modern Western fixation with trying to live in a totally sanitised environment means westerners have lost that immunity or resilience to bacteria.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Stocky said:

Other way round I think, the modern Western fixation with trying to live in a totally sanitised environment means westerners have lost that immunity or resilience to bacteria.

I said the same thing.

 

That's why it's probably better to avoid hand sanitizers. A new obsession since Covid. 

 

[Yagoda]

Immunity.

 

Its like kids swimming in the San Saeb canal, would you?

[Quentin Zen]

not sure if mentioned, but why wake up to a colony of ants and a billion other animals eating your food.   

[fondue zoo]

10 minutes ago, Stocky said:

It's like this one from Watsadu.

 

 

 

I've seen versions of this where they added UV-C light emitters, but that would only be a surface effect.

 

 

 

 

[Stocky]

2 minutes ago, fondue zoo said:

 

I've seen versions of this where they added UV-C light emitters, but that would only be a surface effect.

 

Ours is probably 25 years old, no lights, only addition are the pots the legs stand in that you keep topped up with water to keep ants out. People in the west have just gone soft.

[Presnock]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

My Mrs regularly leaves food dishes out on the kitchen table, including rice which was cooked the night before. This morning I found a tub of left over KFC.

She, and other family incl. 4 year old, eat it no problem, with no side effects.

When I was at cookery college it was instilled in us not to leave anything at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. I also read that KFC (in UK) dispose of any food not sold within a certain length of time.

How does it work over here?

well as temperatures are warm to very warm most of the time, it is safest to put food away in a fridge or elsewhere.  Besides the temperature, there are a lot of bugs around always.  Plus, those perservatives in many prepared foods here are not so healthy either but a different subject I guess.

[Presnock]

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I said the same thing.

 

That's why it's probably better to avoid hand sanitizers. A new obsession since Covid. 

 

Yep, I have read/often heard that since parents stopped babies/youngsters from eating DIRT, they miss out on certain antibodies within their system.  If in doubt of experts, just look at the new Health Secretary in the US.  I wonder what he would recommend.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

My Mrs regularly leaves food dishes out on the kitchen table, including rice which was cooked the night before. This morning I found a tub of left over KFC.

She, and other family incl. 4 year old, eat it no problem, with no side effects.

When I was at cookery college it was instilled in us not to leave anything at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. I also read that KFC (in UK) dispose of any food not sold within a certain length of time.

How does it work over here?

When I first got here a doctor told me Thais have different gut enzymes or something like that. They are brought up eating food that's been left out. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Delete

 

[bubblegum]

Once ever so often they eat grass and vomit all the bad stuff out?

[steven100]

6 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Supposing you brought the light inside the food, which you can do either through the skin, or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too... So, we'll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute,  that's pretty powerful. 

 

sorry,  I can't read your comment,   the text is so small. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

sorry,  I can't read your comment,   the text is so small. 

Thought I'd throw in a Trump joke. Everyone loves a Trump joke. It's something he said for covid about UV light on the body. 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Biig C and Makro subscribe to the same theory and leave pork and chicken out unrefrigerated for hours. 

 

 

 

Makro reeks of decaying meat, thats why I no longer shop there.

[KhaoHom]

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

My Mrs regularly leaves food dishes out on the kitchen table, including rice which was cooked the night before. This morning I found a tub of left over KFC.

She, and other family incl. 4 year old, eat it no problem, with no side effects.

When I was at cookery college it was instilled in us not to leave anything at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. I also read that KFC (in UK) dispose of any food not sold within a certain length of time.

How does it work over here?

 

My wife often cooks rice in the evening time after she comes home from work. Often, we both forget to put it in the refrigerator. Very often it gets put in the refrigerator in the morning. We've never had any sort of food illness.

 

Moreover, we are camping five or six weeks a year. We often eat rice that's been not refrigerated for 24 hours. Not only has she but I have never had any sort of illness from it whatsoever.

 

Just because the dramatists say that you can die from things doesn't mean it's ever going to even happen.

 

In summary, not only has my wife never been sick from Rice that has been set out but I have not either

[KhaoHom]

53 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Yep, I have read/often heard that since parents stopped babies/youngsters from eating DIRT, they miss out on certain antibodies within their system.  If in doubt of experts, just look at the new Health Secretary in the US.  I wonder what he would recommend.

 

While I don't roll around in mud along BKK klong I don't do anything to stay clear of things that might have some health hygiene issues. I'm 60++ and never sick. I didn't even get COVID .

 

Exposure to the world is best antibody!

 

PS whenever my wife heats up food she always throws it in the microwave and turns it on high. I really object to it because some large dish can end up getting fully cooked by three or four times.

 

I often eat street food that is been sitting out all day and not warmed just scooped off a tray and thrown on a plate with some rice. I never have a problem or I should say very rarely.

 

One thing I do avoid is raw seafood and raw beef although I really like them both. The exception being sushi which is served in a proper restaurant. Seems like every time that I dabble with raw seafood I end up with a bit of the squirts. I like raw beef salad and Thai larp raw beef but I'm more concerned about parasites that I am about some sort of time / temperature abuse.

 

Just eat it, get used to it l, love it.  Thai food almost as good as Italian but much less carbs. So yummy.

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

How? It's warmer here so bacteria can thrive, bugs etc get into it. But as you say, food poisoning is much more rife in Western countries.

They are a lot tougher than most westerners.

 

I have often thought the same thing though. Maybe it is because their food is fresher when cooked. Usually grown locally and used before 1-3 days whereas in the west it takes that long to get it to the shops, transported all over the country.

 

Tough people these Thais.