Will you follow The Science?

If they recomend me to take the shots, I will, but as far I know, Im not in the risk zone, and have the first two shots only. 

 

Never taken the flu vaccine, but if for some reason needed, I will.

 

I have taken all the vaccines as the child, and also recomended travel vaccines programs for the countries I visited. 

 

My father have always taken all vaccines he is advised to take, and now annually takes the flu shots for two decades, and also since covid taken the covid and boosters.

 

Still healthy man close to his 90'ies now, still driving car and still travel Europe. 

 

I feel sorry for you who are dedicated to false and misleading information that can in much higher grade kill people than save them. There is no question vaccines saves people, and mistrust is a disaster for the world population in general. For your sake, Im not that worried, just the harm you and everyone with you

 

 

7 hours ago, Hummin said:

I feel sorry for you who are dedicated to false and misleading information that can in much higher grade kill people than save them. There is no question vaccines saves people, and mistrust is a disaster for the world population in general. For your sake, Im not that worried, just the harm you and everyone with you

 

 

 

You should feel sorry for the hordes of people who were injured by the Covid vaccine, not for me as I am in perfect health.

 

You qualify for the Impossible Question. Nobody has answered it yet, have a shot (pun intended):

 

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What is your take on top virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC during the Covid crisis, who claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury?

 

Since leaving his federal government position at the end of President Donald Trump’s first term in January 2021, Redfield has focused on treating patients in his medical practice.

He explains in the interview that his surgery is flooded with patients who have been led to believe they have “Lond Covid.”

However, he notes that the vast majority of those patients are actually suffering from an injury caused by the Covid mRNA “vaccine” they received.

 

https://slaynews.com/news/ex-cdc-director-long-covid-mrna-vaccine-injury/

7 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You should feel sorry for the hordes of people who were injured by the Covid vaccine, not for me as I am in perfect health.

 

You qualify for the Impossible Question. Nobody has answered it yet, have a shot (pun intended):

 

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What is your take on top virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC during the Covid crisis, who claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury?

 

Since leaving his federal government position at the end of President Donald Trump’s first term in January 2021, Redfield has focused on treating patients in his medical practice.

He explains in the interview that his surgery is flooded with patients who have been led to believe they have “Lond Covid.”

However, he notes that the vast majority of those patients are actually suffering from an injury caused by the Covid mRNA “vaccine” they received.

 

https://slaynews.com/news/ex-cdc-director-long-covid-mrna-vaccine-injury/

All I see, is Redfield welcome more studies about vaccine safety, and he always recommends vaccines and talk about vaccine safety

 

He seems to trust the science, and therefor speaks for more science to be done before making any further conclusions 

Vulnerable groups (most of AN: old, male, fat) should be vaccinated once a year. 

In Europe and North America it's recommended at the start of the cold season,  because that's when people crowd together indoors, so it's peak season for respiratory infections like influenza or covid. 

In Thailand,  this is the rainy season.  That's why influenza vaccines are given before the rainy season,  and the same logic applies to covid. 

24 minutes ago, Hummin said:

All I see, is Redfield welcome more studies about vaccine safety, and he always recommends vaccines and talk about vaccine safety

 

He seems to trust the science, and therefor speaks for more science to be done before making any further conclusions 

 

He's saying something is clearly off with these vaccines and he wants to see the safety data.

 

"I… you know, one of the problems… and I'm controversial on this. People in the industry don't like me for what I'm about to say. My son is probably telling me not to say it right now in my ear. But, I don't think the vaccine industry should have immunity.

"I think they should have responsibility, like any other manufacturer of any other product for their product. And I'm particularly concerned about this now because, you know, my clinical practice right now, which I'm still in two half days a week, is largely COVID and long COVID. But among my, quote, long COVID patients are people that don't have long COVID, but they have mRNA vaccine injury."

"And, it's, you know, there's not a clear path for them to have their injury recognized and compensated, and I think that's wrong. I think, hopefully, Kennedy will have a critical review, not saying that the mRNA vaccines aren't safe, not saying they shouldn't…"

"Let's just have an objective review by the FDA. Marty… Marty, you gotta review these products. Let's see the safety data. Don't tell me you're holding it off till 2026. No. I want the safety data out there."
 

 

https://cardiovascular-research-and-innovation.reseaprojournals.com/archive_files/Myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 vaccination Epidemiology, outcomes, and new perspectives.pdf

I haven't gotten a covid shot yet.  I don't have useless ... IMHO ... experimental chemicals injected into my body for any reason, especially when suggested by people and or companies I don't trust or respect.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

 

 

Dr. Milhoan says the essential information here, which is that this was known in 2021.

 

It is incontrovertible that this vaccine is very dangerous and that there has been a cover-up.

Give it up 

37 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Dr. Milhoan says the essential information here, which is that this was known in 2021.

 

It is incontrovertible that this vaccine is very dangerous and that there has been a cover-up.

 

"Incontrovertible"?

 

That'll be right then.

 

 

 

Do we actually know why this pediatrician's office is permanently closed and his website unavailable?

 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

"Incontrovertible"?

 

That'll be right then.

 

 

 

Do we actually know why this pediatrician's office is permanently closed and his website unavailable?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pediatric cardiologist.

 

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What is your take on top virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC during the Covid crisis, who claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury?

 

Since leaving his federal government position at the end of President Donald Trump’s first term in January 2021, Redfield has focused on treating patients in his medical practice.

He explains in the interview that his surgery is flooded with patients who have been led to believe they have “Lond Covid.”

However, he notes that the vast majority of those patients are actually suffering from an injury caused by the Covid mRNA “vaccine” they received.

 

https://slaynews.com/news/ex-cdc-director-long-covid-mrna-vaccine-injury/

 

 

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Pediatric cardiologist.

 

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What is your take on top virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC during the Covid crisis, who claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury?

 

Since leaving his federal government position at the end of President Donald Trump’s first term in January 2021, Redfield has focused on treating patients in his medical practice.

He explains in the interview that his surgery is flooded with patients who have been led to believe they have “Lond Covid.”

However, he notes that the vast majority of those patients are actually suffering from an injury caused by the Covid mRNA “vaccine” they received.

 

https://slaynews.com/news/ex-cdc-director-long-covid-mrna-vaccine-injury/

 

 

So there should be a fourth option ie.  "No i'm following the science"

Yes, I'll get my COVID booster.  It's an excellent idea for people who enjoy traveling. 

30 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Yes, I'll get my COVID booster.  It's an excellent idea for people who enjoy traveling. 

 

Why?

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I haven't gotten a covid shot yet.  I don't have useless ... IMHO ... experimental chemicals injected into my body for any reason, especially when suggested by people and or companies I don't trust or respect.

Congrats. Wish I never did. Nasty arthritic symptoms not long after the shots—the main brands—which I only figured out later. Was never a thing before and has totally abated. I will not be cajoled into taking that garbage again and will rely on my immune system. Each to their own but the system should not put pressure on those who don’t conform. 

14 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Congrats. Wish I never did. Nasty arthritic symptoms not long after the shots—the main brands—which I only figured out later. Was never a thing before and has totally abated. I will not be cajoled into taking that garbage again and will rely on my immune system. Each to their own but the system should not put pressure on those who don’t conform. 

 

I know a couple of people who developed severe arthritis right after their jabs. One immediately understood the causation and says she made a terrible mistake, the other one is a doctor and has mental barriers preventing her from looking at the evidence – she is boosting herself to oblivion, last I heard she was on her 5th shot.

58 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Why?

Getting sick on a trip is a real bummer. 

I'd give just about anything to go back and undo my 2nd Pfizer.  I still haven't recovered my balance or full feeling on the left side of my face, and probably never will. 

 

So I'd have to be an idiot to get another.

 

16 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Will you follow The Science?

Science? Or what they wanted you to believe so you and countries purchase an untested product? 

Seems to me that there are more cases of after-effects from Covid vaccine than previously reported. I am actually happy I refused to allow make my children get vaccines. Since I got my Covid vaccine demanded by me for work I have had respiratory problems consistent with others who got the vaccine. I get sick easier and it lasts longer as well and always, it affects the lungs. 

My heart rate increased as well causing me to now become a risk for heart attack albeit a minor one. I never had any problems like this prior to Covid and no Thai doctor would ever show cause for these problems as being Covid related, but the timing of them is also too coincidental. 

 

More vaccine boosts... No way. 

8 hours ago, Lorry said:

Vulnerable groups (most of AN: old, male, fat) should be vaccinated once a year. 

rather discriminative. Where's your proof please?

I think we will have to leave this one to Darwin. Either you're born with a functioning brain of average intelligence or you will be the ones culled from the herd. No one cares what I do but me, and that is to choose to not invite a premature demise if i can help it. What anyone else thinks or does is up to them. Like I said, let Darwin work his magic. 

16 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Will you follow The Science?

Haha, is the science that came up with 6 feet distancing.

 

14 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Science? Or what they wanted you to believe so you and countries purchase an untested product? 

Seems to me that there are more cases of after-effects from Covid vaccine than previously reported. I am actually happy I refused to allow make my children get vaccines. Since I got my Covid vaccine demanded by me for work I have had respiratory problems consistent with others who got the vaccine. I get sick easier and it lasts longer as well and always, it affects the lungs. 

My heart rate increased as well causing me to now become a risk for heart attack albeit a minor one. I never had any problems like this prior to Covid and no Thai doctor would ever show cause for these problems as being Covid related, but the timing of them is also too coincidental. 

 

More vaccine boosts... No way. 

Each has the right to decide for themself. In your case I don't think it's so much a vaccine boost issue but how to boost  your reasoning skills. And by the way you describe it I have doubts about what you claim happened and why. What do I mean by reasoning skills? "My heart rate increased as well causing me to now become a risk for heart attack albeit a minor one." That is nonsense. An increased heart rate is a natural occurrence and has nothing whatsoever to do with the risk of heart attack. It can happen for a variety of harmless reasons, such as anxiety over vaccines (ironically). You're not a doctor and I'm sure no doctor told you that. You're drawing a lot of conclusions based on your misunderstanding of physiology and misinterpretation of the facts.  I GUARANTEE there is no corroboration to your claim about respiratory problems "consistent with others". You're free to have your opinions, but don't lie and embellish. Your comment is nonsense and of no value to anyone outside of your own imagination.  

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You should feel sorry for the hordes of people who were injured by the Covid vaccine, not for me as I am in perfect health.

 

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Keep in mind that those who got the shots but now choose not to are exposing the rest of us to increased risk because of their recklessness. Each person who gets infected becomes a factory to create new strains , to which we all are vulnerable, necessitating new versions of the vaccine, which they will again refuse. If people did the right thing there would be less of these new outbreaks. Fortunately, this problem seems limited to ignorant westerners rather than Thai people, who fortunately have enough of a sense of duty and cooperation to make up for those relatively few pigheaded individuals. You certainly have the right to choose to die and how, but you do not have the moral right to endanger others. Of course, having said that, nobody who is refusing the vaccine actually cares about the consequences to others, and so - duh. 

6 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Each has the right to decide for themself. In your case I don't think it's so much a vaccine boost issue but how to boost  your reasoning skills. And by the way you describe it I have doubts about what you claim happened and why. What do I mean by reasoning skills? "My heart rate increased as well causing me to now become a risk for heart attack albeit a minor one." That is nonsense. An increased heart rate is a natural occurrence and has nothing whatsoever to do with the risk of heart attack. It can happen for a variety of harmless reasons, such as anxiety over vaccines (ironically). You're not a doctor and I'm sure no doctor told you that. You're drawing a lot of conclusions based on your misunderstanding of physiology and misinterpretation of the facts.  I GUARANTEE there is no corroboration to your claim about respiratory problems "consistent with others". You're free to have your opinions, but don't lie and embellish. Your comment is nonsense and of no value to anyone outside of your own imagination.  

To each his own in thinking about it. Increased heart rate is related to problem listed as side effects of covid as well as respiratory problems. Although, it also could be that these problems occured after vaccination and getting the covid infection. Either way, a booster shot would be a sure NO for me and my wife also agrees to this. Each month new data shows the vaccines change the body in a negative way. So why risk something unforeseen. It already has been proven that the vaccine studies were not realistic and made to show the vaccine as a good thing while hiding side-effects. 

4 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Keep in mind that those who got the shots but now choose not to are exposing the rest of us to increased risk because of their recklessness. Each person who gets infected becomes a factory to create new strains , to which we all are vulnerable, necessitating new versions of the vaccine, which they will again refuse. If people did the right thing there would be less of these new outbreaks. Fortunately, this problem seems limited to ignorant westerners rather than Thai people, who fortunately have enough of a sense of duty and cooperation to make up for those relatively few pigheaded individuals. You certainly have the right to choose to die and how, but you do not have the moral right to endanger others. Of course, having said that, nobody who is refusing the vaccine actually cares about the consequences to others, and so - duh. 

Wow! 2025 and you still don't know the jabs won't protect you from getting infected. As for Thai people not getting jabbed this is pure conjecture. Thai people I know haven't been jabbed for years.

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

What is your take on top virologist Dr. Robert

 

Doctor Robert
He's a man you must believe
Helping anyone in need
No one can succeed like
Doctor Robert

2 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Keep in mind that those who got the shots but now choose not to are exposing the rest of us to increased risk because of their recklessness. Each person who gets infected becomes a factory to create new strains , to which we all are vulnerable, necessitating new versions of the vaccine, which they will again refuse. If people did the right thing there would be less of these new outbreaks. Fortunately, this problem seems limited to ignorant westerners rather than Thai people, who fortunately have enough of a sense of duty and cooperation to make up for those relatively few pigheaded individuals. You certainly have the right to choose to die and how, but you do not have the moral right to endanger others. Of course, having said that, nobody who is refusing the vaccine actually cares about the consequences to others, and so - duh. 

People get vaccines to prevent severe symptoms of Covid, and not to prevent spread. You can have Covid and not be affected, but still spread it. This has been understood all along. I got 4 but will not get anymore, as I feel if I was going to have any severe problems, I would have had them by now. Immunity comes eventually anyway. All I got was the cough and sore throat a few times, knowing I had it twice at least.