Is it any wonder, with all the constant flip flopping on visas, taxes, dual pricing, airport tax, scamming locals, earth-quakes, constant violence on social media & the strong baht - that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

 

Thailand lost it's smile decades ago, and if they are still smiling, one can't even tell because of the masks they are still wearing...

 

Mark.

When are you leaving?

Or are you staying and just going to continue carrying on like a Karen everyday?

The rot started when they legalized weed. Now Thailand attracts the young yobs who just want to get stoned and cause trouble. Hence the number of "influencers" getting busted trying to smuggle weed into the UK. Quality tourists don't want any part of that.

I joined this forum 22 years ago (goodness me am I old and smelly!)

 

The first post I read was to the effect that tourism was dead in Thailand. The second one was complaining that Pattaya was not a patch on what it used to be!

Oh Bob, FFS, not this same, thread again that you've recycled more times already than a used condom. You're probably so pissed out of your head most of the time that you can't even remember you've posted this same topic at least 10 times already under four or five of your different AN aliases.
 

At this point, your posts about Thailand are like reruns of a soap opera no one asked to watch, same script, slightly different whingeing. Visas! Scams! Strong baht! Earthquakes! Masked locals! You’ve turned existential despair into a predictable weekly series. Honestly, we get it, Thailand didn’t roll out the red carpet and give you a statue in your honor the last time you flew back in from Benidorm. Tragic.

 

Meanwhile, you’re sat there in your sweaty, 20m² bachelor bunker behind the haze of Soi BuaKhao, live-streaming complaints into the void, convinced tourists are fleeing en masse to Phnom Penh, Saigon, and Flippers because someone at Suvarnabhumi overcharged you for a bottle of water back in 2016.

 

If Thailand really is the flaming trash pile you say it is, Bob… why is it always the backdrop to your personal Shakespearean drama? At some point, mate, it’s not the country. It’s just you.

8 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

. Now Thailand attracts the young yobs who just want to get stoned and cause trouble.

How can you possibly cause any trouble when you are stoned??

 

Mark.

6 minutes ago, FriscoKid said:

Oh Bob, FFS, not this same, thread again that you've recycled more times already than a used condom. At this point, your posts about Thailand are like reruns of a soap opera no one asked to watch, same script, slightly different whingeing. Visas! Scams! Strong baht! Earthquakes! Masked locals! You’ve turned existential despair into a predictable weekly series. Honestly, we get it, Thailand didn’t roll out the red carpet and give you a statue in your honor the last time you flew back in from Japan. Tragic.

 

Meanwhile, you’re sat there in your sweaty, 20m² bachelor bunker behind the haze of Soi BuaKhao, live-streaming complaints into the void, convinced tourists are fleeing en masse to Phnom Penh, Saigon, and Flippers because someone at Suvarnabhumi overcharged you for a bottle of water back in 2016.

 

If Thailand really is the flaming trash pile you say it is, Bob… why is it always the backdrop to your personal Shakespearean drama? At some point, mate, it’s not the country. It’s just you.

I have never been to Japan.

 

Mark.

Bob's been watching utube again. Not very original.

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

Bob's been watching utube again. Not very original.

What's utube?

 

Mark.

3 minutes ago, Cornish Pasty said:

I have never been to Japan.

 

Mark.

I know, Bob, it's Benidorm. Fixed that. 

Just now, Cornish Pasty said:

What's utube?

 

Mark.

Who's bob  should be first question.

19 minutes ago, Cornish Pasty said:

How can you possibly cause any trouble when you are stoned??

 

Mark.

 

I murder popsicles when im high. 

 

This is Teflon Thailand you are talking about ,over the years ,many other

posters have said the same thing , and it never seems to happen  .....

 

regards worgeordie

6 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

This is Teflon Thailand you are talking about ,over the years ,many other

posters have said the same thing , and it never seems to happen  .....

 

regards worgeordie

This time it's different.

 

When was the last time you ventured out on to the streets in a tourist ghetto?

Just look at the numbers for this quarter....

 

The attitude of the locals stinks, the way they try and fleece the foreigner is atrocious and I for one hope they never return.

 

Mark.

1 hour ago, Cornish Pasty said:

Is it any wonder, with all the constant flip flopping on visas, taxes, dual pricing, airport tax, scamming locals, earth-quakes, constant violence on social media & the strong baht - that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

 

Thailand lost it's smile decades ago, and if they are still smiling, one can't even tell because of the masks they are still wearing...

 

Mark.

You are not writing from a tourist POV though, more miserable pattaya expat...

The constant violence I see is all pattaya or bangla road,

constant earth quakes?... 1

Airport tax...£5 at the start of a holiday when likely spending £1000+... WOW.

Where are these safer cleaner destinations?

SEA is part of the well established backpacker- tourist route, Thailand is at the top of that list, its not going anywhere, 1st time tourists are not going to see any of what you mention, other than perhaps an over charging, off metre taxi, or bike rental damage.

you're just too old and getting bitter.

 

57 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

The rot started when they legalized weed. Now Thailand attracts the young yobs who just want to get stoned and cause trouble. Hence the number of "influencers" getting busted trying to smuggle weed into the UK. Quality tourists don't want any part of that.

I am not a weed fan, but stoned people do not cause trouble, quite the opposite infact. 

1 hour ago, JAG said:

I joined this forum 22 years ago (goodness me am I old and smelly!)

 

The first post I read was to the effect that tourism was dead in Thailand. The second one was complaining that Pattaya was not a patch on what it used to be!

That poster back then is probably the same as the one started this thread.

1 hour ago, Cornish Pasty said:

Is it any wonder, with all the constant flip flopping on visas, taxes, dual pricing, airport tax, scamming locals, earth-quakes, constant violence on social media & the strong baht - that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

 

Thailand lost it's smile decades ago, and if they are still smiling, one can't even tell because of the masks they are still wearing...

 

Mark.

Still one of the best places for value and climate. Apart from a brief period after Tom yam kung the THB is quite weak. Agree the demographic has changed with all the idiot potheads..I'm staying put 

Yawn.   If a massive tsunami, military coups, tanks on the streets, economic crashes, Covid didn't "finish" tourism, I think it's pretty safe now.

50 minutes ago, Cornish Pasty said:

This time it's different.

 

When was the last time you ventured out on to the streets in a tourist ghetto?

Just look at the numbers for this quarter....

 

The attitude of the locals stinks, the way they try and fleece the foreigner is atrocious and I for one hope they never return.

 

Still lots of tourists, at least in Bangkok. By far fewer tourists from China, who, obviously, are discovering new and better-value destinations (Japan, Cambodia...) - Many travellers complaining about higher prices and worsening attitudes. The "100 million foreign tourists in 2030" TAT prediction is a pipe dream, and, most probably, won't ever happen, unless Thailand becomes much cheaper, or anyplace else much more expensive... Tourism numbers may very well have peaked in 2019, while shorter stays mean stagnating tourism income.

 

Time to forget greed, while putting on a smile 😁 for your visitors, Thailand. We're not walking ATMs, so don't treat us like we were, and money will come... 😉 

I like Thailand and will keep going there as long as I am able.

1 hour ago, Cornish Pasty said:

This time it's different.

 

When was the last time you ventured out on to the streets in a tourist ghetto?

Just look at the numbers for this quarter....

 

The attitude of the locals stinks, the way they try and fleece the foreigner is atrocious and I for one hope they never return.

 

Mark.

I dont want to appear pedantic but I think the locals are hear to stay!

 

Anyway there will always be tourists, one smile from a 7/11 girl and they (you?) will be rampaging around Pattaya, waving their trousers in the air and shouting " bring on the ladyboys!"

1 hour ago, Cornish Pasty said:

This time it's different.

 

Someone help me out here.  I was looking for that meme of Batman slapping the snot out of Robin for saying that...

 

Bob, when you wake up tomorrow in yet another one of your patented Thailand-hating moods, feel free to save yourself the effort and just recycle one of your earlier rants. To help you along, I’ve even dug up a few of your greatest hits below, though, to be fair, this is just a small sampling from the vast archive of your ongoing moaning chronicles. I didn’t even have time to count how many times you’ve already typed the phrase “tourist ghetto,” but at this point, you might want to trademark it.

 

 

2 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

How can you possibly cause any trouble when you are stoned??

 

Mark.

You are living in a big illusion. Sure, most people do not cause problem while stoned. Same as most people do not cause problem while drunk on alcohol, sniffing heroin and so on....

However, all substances that alters the brain and mind will affect different people in different way, so it totally possible to cause problem when you are stoned. Next time, please educate yourself a little bit before posting nonsense.

I think many of us on this forum would disagree with you entirely, sure things have changed here, and some of the changes have not been for the better, but many of us still love it here. I have a lot of friends who visit and they love their visits and can't wait for the next one.

 

It is certainly true the authorities could be doing a lot to improve the place, they could be addressing issues like traffic safety, public safety, scammers, air quality, environmental issues, poor policing, and so much more, but they are incompetent, lazy, slothful and have no interest in making life better for the Thai people, much less tourists.

 

It's all about the money for them. And you would think that alone would be enough incentive to improve things, but I think they just don't have the vision for that. 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I think many of us on this forum would disagree with you entirely, sure things have changed here, and some of the changes have not been for the better, but many of us still love it here. I have a lot of friends who visit and they love their visits and can't wait for the next one.

 

It is certainly true the authorities could be doing a lot to improve the place, they could be addressing issues like traffic safety, public safety, scammers, air quality, environmental issues, poor policing, and so much more, but they are incompetent, lazy, slothful and have no interest in making life better for the Thai people, much less tourists.

 

It's all about the money for them. And you would think that alone would be enough incentive to improve things, but I think they just don't have the vision for that. 

Agree.Its all about money from the day of the birth.That will never change.

I don't think tourism in TH is finished. All that is needed is international flights and hotels. To the new world middle-class any destination is ok, for example Pattaya as a family beach destination. 

 

It's a pity some country doesn't run following live experiment:

 

1) Set up a huge landfill as destination.

2) Build ramschackle woodplank hotels around the landfill.

3) Build an airstrip nearby with a few charter flights from the Indian Subcontinent.

4) Count the families who come for a holiday on and around the landfill.

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You are living in a big illusion. Sure, most people do not cause problem while stoned. Same as most people do not cause problem while drunk on alcohol, sniffing heroin and so on....

However, all substances that alters the brain and mind will affect different people in different way, so it totally possible to cause problem when you are stoned. Next time, please educate yourself a little bit before posting nonsense.

Sniffling heroin hey? (sniffling mind you, not sniffing). I see you're an expert in drugs and harm reduction.

7 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

This time it's different.

 

When was the last time you ventured out on to the streets in a tourist ghetto?

Just look at the numbers for this quarter....

 

The attitude of the locals stinks, the way they try and fleece the foreigner is atrocious and I for one hope they never return.

 

Mark.

Dissing the locals?..... again  (and again and .......)