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British Expat Loses Both Legs in Bangkok Hit-and-Run Tragedy

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1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

Hope it works out for him as well as can be expected.

In my 20 years there I always avoided riding on motorbikes (either as a driver or passenger), the roads are just too dangerous to be exposed, and on 2 wheels. (IMHO).

Same here, had many motorcycles back in my home country and drove them for almost 50 years but would never get on a motorcycle in Thailand. 

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  • Because it was a hit and run!

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    Willing to bet that even IF he had insurance, it would NOT cover a motorbike accident.  But the real point for me is, these people who feel obliged to constantly post "Tragic, but travel insurance ??"

  • Umm? They got in an accident, there is no proof of whose fault it is, just because the other driver left the scene doesn't automatically mean he is at fault for the accident. 

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3 minutes ago, dutch boy said:

Same here, had many motorcycles back in my home country and drove them for almost 50 years but would never get on a motorcycle in Thailand. 

 

Gave it up, mainly because of the other dangerous motorcycles out there, I never felt much of an issue with cars around me, but the motorcycle riders are nuts here.

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2 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Gave it up, mainly because of the other dangerous motorcycles out there, I never felt much of an issue with cars around me, but the motorcycle riders are nuts here.

Exactly, its the other motorbike drivers that are the main problem, not lorry drivers. And you are so correct, they are crazy and abide by no laws. I am scared sh--less when driving my car in Bangkok, not by other cars but by the motorbikes. 

22 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

I wonder what % of drivers flee the scene yet it is not their fault for the accident?

 

usually Thais if not their fault would stay put so they can ensure to collect monies for any property damage 

In the past, without CCTV footage, most times the police attending to the accident, they blame the larger vehicle. 

It's well know in Thailand, the larger vehicle is to blame. 

 

The problem is inexperienced motorbike/scooter riders, the incompetent, the unskilled, causing so many accidents. 

 

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Again, that means nothing, other than he left the scene.

Admission of guilt plus against the law and a low act

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2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Admission of guilt plus against the law and a low act

 

Based on the new information that he dropped the bike and slid under a 20 wheeled lorry, who probably never even knew anything happened, I'm not sure the lorry driver is guilty of anything.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Based on the new information that he dropped the bike and slid under a 20 wheeled lorry, who probably never even knew anything happened, I'm not sure the lorry driver is guilty of anything.

Never knew lol

 

 

even the policemen arrested that driver, the driver won’t have enough money to cover his medical expenses 

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The truck diver likely didn't even know something happened. Wouldn't have even felt a bump.

 

Both were going through the intersection. The motorbike was obviously doing so quite fast.

 

One of them didn't yield as they should have. Nobody here knows which one, as of yet. 

1 hour ago, praguecr said:

Because it was a hit and run!

From the OP: "following an alleged hit and run"

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Again, that means nothing, other than he left the scene.

Most of the time they run away to stop themselves getting beaten up or Cambodian etc with no visa, if a Thai then they turn themselves into a police stattion some distance away

41 minutes ago, Big Bert said:

The Scotsman skidded along the ground before being run over by a 20-wheeler truck, which crushed his legs. Shocking dashcam footage shows the truck passing through an intersection as the motorcyclist flies into view along the ground. He appears to get dragged under the huge tyres as sparks come from his bike, followed by a sickening thud.

This was from a UK paper yesterday.
They have dash cam and CCTV but nothing showing the accident, trucks reg was not visible in the footage. 

"as the motorcyclist flies into view along the ground"

Don't understand what they mean by "flies into view".

51 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

Travel insurance for a bike rider  

Good luck with that

The company I use in Australia for travel insurance covers motorcycle riding up to 250cc IF you have a motorcycle license in your home country AND you have an IDP. 

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

"as the motorcyclist flies into view along the ground"

Don't understand what they mean by "flies into view".

 

Definitely changes the one-sided narrative of the family, if he's sliding into view, then the accident happened when he dropped the bike.

Only some insurance don't cover motorcycle accident, from my experience, it's mostly the cheap ones that doesn't.

All my insurance I have had from different companies, covered motorcycle accidents, both as driver or passenger. Some insurance will cover only riding as a passenger.

 

I feel sorry for him, and I hope he recovers.

 

At least, he survived a really bad accident with a lorry that could have easily cost his life, as it already happens to many others in Thailand. 

 

 

1 hour ago, ronster said:

So what about the lorry driver ? Did he flee in the lorry or abandon it ? 

Surely not difficult to track him either way and get him to pay or insurance to pay for the guys hospital bill.

 

That's where the police investigation comes in, or not - will be interesting to see the outcome of this.

If he had no insurance I wonder what would have happened? I also wonder if they demanded a deposit?

 

This is the kind of nightmare scenario which can happen to any one of us at pretty much any time, hence the need for a decent insurance cover which luckily he appears to have planned for in advance of the unforeseen.

8 minutes ago, wadsy said:

The company I use in Australia for travel insurance covers motorcycle riding up to 250cc IF you have a motorcycle license in your home country AND you have an IDP. 

I have never understood the relevance of an IDP  especially here as they do not contain Thai language translation, It did not used to be required if ones original licence was in English but i believe that changed relatively recently.

26 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Based on the new information that he dropped the bike and slid under a 20 wheeled lorry, who probably never even knew anything happened, I'm not sure the lorry driver is guilty of anything.

I'm pretty sure he didnt even know or feel anything while driving the truck.

Terrible,  poor man hope he gets thru it with counseling and proper care.

Even at a green light it is recommended to slow slightly and look both ways.  Too many people in a hurry here.

1 hour ago, ronster said:

So what about the lorry driver ? Did he flee in the lorry or abandon it ? 

Surely not difficult to track him either way and get him to pay or insurance to pay for the guys hospital bill.

Are you serious. That lorry driver is probably as poor as job. Don't expect any compensatio from him.. Regarding an insurance, I doubt the guy had any if he fled. Maybe he was under influence too. And If any insurance what would it cover. IMO forget it

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Umm? They got in an accident, there is no proof of whose fault it is, just because the other driver left the scene doesn't automatically mean he is at fault for the accident. 

If it wasn't his fault why run!

This is a real good reason why other assume what they are assuming.

The fact is since it is reported a Lorry someone saw something in which as always the reporting is never up to par. Being in Bangkok there are lots of CCTV, one can go backwards and forward assumption of travel and have a good % ,of finding something.

The question is will the BIB do it.

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Just now, thailand49 said:

If it wasn't his fault why run!

This is a real good reason why other assume what they are assuming.

The fact is since it is reported a Lorry someone saw something in which as always the reporting is never up to par. Being in Bangkok there are lots of CCTV, one can go backwards and forward assumption of travel and have a good % ,of finding something.

The question is will the BIB do it.

Did he run?

Motorcycle / guy slides under your huge truck while driving. Could have been he never noticed.

12 minutes ago, Radar501 said:
tes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

It's well know in Thailand, the larger vehicle is to blame. 

II don't think you are very long in Thailand. Hereafter the responsibility scale in traffic in Thailand, from biggest responsa

 

1 pedestrian

2 biker

3 motorbike

4 car

5 van

6 lorry

 

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The guy is an expat, thus he is not travelling and his travel insurance won't intervene

I hope to God that the treatment he received was totally appropriate.

Just a side note, don't ever lay your bike down, it won't stop any faster by doing so.

as many an  posters stated, and even experienced motorbike drivers: Don't drive a motorbike except if you are boring of life. Most of us have partners, you can get for 2 a grab or a bolt car for less than 100 baht. Airco, driver everything included.

Last but not least you are a farang so whatever you drive, you are always responsible number one

In surin years ago a German rented a car from a UK bar owner who offered rentals.

He had an accident with a drunk driver who was a thai.2 guys on the motorcycle died.When the police checked that they find out that the barowner didn't have the license to rent out anything.This poor German guy didn't get any help from the UK guy and sat with a bill at 200.000 to the thai families.He couldn't pay it and was jailed until he could pay-I don't know what happened in the end.

So even the Thai was drunk driving the German get the blame.

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Umm? They got in an accident, there is no proof of whose fault it is, just because the other driver left the scene doesn't automatically mean he is at fault for the accident. 

It's usually an indication the Lorry driver bknew he was at fault and fled. Duh!

Below the knees is good news, though. Much easier to learn to get on with prosthetics when you still have your knees. 

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