1 hour ago, hunkidori said:

I doubt Cambodia would be very helpful if he's gone there

True

On 8/20/2025 at 3:52 AM, JAG said:

The UK judicial system does some bizarre things doesn't it?

 

It staggers me some of the sentencing......even not knowing the ins and outs....you look at the crime!!!!

 

Bloke just recently......... gouged his ex-wife's eyes ........got six years????? <deleted>

Probably boat to Australia 

Convicts have always been welcome 

On 8/20/2025 at 4:54 AM, Will B Good said:

 

It staggers me some of the sentencing......even not knowing the ins and outs....you look at the crime!!!!

 

Bloke just recently......... gouged his ex-wife's eyes ........got six years????? <deleted>

Ridiculous judiciary,even the cops don't carry guns 

He is more unlucky than the Red Bull heir....I am wondering how many netizens who do the same get the same sentence

31 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

How? Walking the minefields at Cambo natural border? If so, he´s doing the tax payer a favor.

Cambodia is not the only that borders Thailand.

10 years would be a "norm" throughout the western world.

 

The family should sue him in the UK courts, get cash from him forever. Maybe he has a house.

6 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

 

really > no passport where is he going ?

 

 

If any of this is true perhaps Cambodia? The relationship between the two countries is so poor they would not send him back. 

8 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

...has been released from custody but has now had his passport confiscated. 

 

Questions remain over Mills’ identity, after some local media referred to him as Brandon James Holmes. UK reports suggest he is the same man convicted in Sheffield in 2022 ...

 

Whaddaya wanna bet the RTP confiscated the wrong passport?

 

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Ridiculous judiciary,even the cops don't carry guns 

Not sure what that has to do with the price of fish, but clearly you've not visited the UK since Dixon of Dock Green; the bobby on the beat might not carry a gun, but you'll see armed police in most big UK cities, and I don't mean side arms.

 

I wonder how long it would be for a Thai?  2 years. A rich Thai?  100,000 THB.

Just now, connda said:

I wonder how long it would be for a Thai?  2 years. A rich Thai?  100,000 THB.

Good thing to wonder about.

I don't really know. 

I reckon it would vary widely and like in a lot of countries being wealthy, having the best lawyers, part of the elite would tend to help a lot.

A better question might be a typical penalty for a similar crime involving middle class Thais.

Assuming he's guilty, he made a massive mistake and his mistake directly resulting in a death. 

However, it's obvious  that killing someone wasn't premeditated and wasn't the intention. 

I don't know what a "fair" punishment should  be for that.

 

 

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

How the hell do you get a sentence like that for dealing??????

 

Wheel out a sob story about a personal trauma you've suffered.  More details here:

 

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/two-drug-dealers-who-suffered-traumas-avoid-custody-3533405

 

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Never crossed a land border here.......but I can't imagine it would be that difficult to cross with help.

 

He should never have been released.......unless this is what the Thai authorities hoped would happen.......one less problem to deal with.

 

 

A crime on a thai citizen? That would be a new low if they wanted to wash their hands of the problem. Isn't that what the police and justice is for?

 

I highly doubt this was their motivation to release him. 

 

 

3 hours ago, AlexRich said:

If any of this is true perhaps Cambodia? The relationship between the two countries is so poor they would not send him back. 

 

But even if he ended up in Camobida, he would not be able to get a passport from the embassy. 

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Good thing to wonder about.

I don't really know. 

I reckon it would vary widely and like in a lot of countries being wealthy, having the best lawyers, part of the elite would tend to help a lot.

A better question might be a typical penalty for a similar crime involving middle class Thais.

Assuming he's guilty, he made a massive mistake and his mistake directly resulting in a death. 

However, it's obvious  that killing someone wasn't premeditated and wasn't the intention. 

I don't know what a "fair" punishment should  be for that.

 

According to the Land Traffic Act 291 (amended 2017) Reckless Driving Causing Death carries 3–10 years prison sentence + a fine of between 60,000–200,000 baht.

 

But... I do wonder if the same charges would be applied to a poor or middle class Thai... i.e. being charged with Negligent Homicide instead, which carries are prison sentence of 'up-to' 10 years  (i.e. so they could get away with 6 month sentence etc).

 

The issue with all of these reports is that follow up information is non-existent to extremely rare, so we never know exactly what a Thai would get under the same circumstances.

 

Nevertheless - regardless of what 'someone else' got - a mother of two has been killed for the stupid and reckless actions of someone who is either a mindless fool or had a moment of stupidity - he has to pay whatever consequences he is faced with - whatever the consequences its still far less than losing a mum at such a young age (for the children).

 

 

2 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

A crime on a thai citizen? That would be a new low if they wanted to wash their hands of the problem. Isn't that what the police and justice is for?

 

I highly doubt this was their motivation to release him. 

 

 

Money is a great motivator. 

5 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

But even if he ended up in Camobida, he would not be able to get a passport from the embassy. 

I don’t know. I recall many years ago a guy was shot in Pattaya by two guys ion a scooter. They were western scammers operating in Thailand, and it was a revenge hit. Anyway, both fled to Cambodia … and I don’t think they were ever detained? I’ve always wondered what happened to them? So it might be possible. 
 

if anyone knows … please comment. 

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

I don’t know. I recall many years ago a guy was shot in Pattaya by two guys ion a scooter. They were western scammers operating in Thailand, and it was a revenge hit. Anyway, both fled to Cambodia … and I don’t think they were ever detained? I’ve always wondered what happened to them? So it might be possible. 
 

if anyone knows … please comment. 

The Australian bikies?

Hells angels ,that was around 10 years ago 

 

14 hours ago, Trippy said:

If you get your passport confiscated, they report it to the person's embassy immediately. No chance of him getting a new passport or even a temporary in another country. 

Presuming that embassy has the wherewithal to ensure the message gets out to other countries. Let us hope so. I am not sure where the consulate's responsibilities lie, to their citizen, or some neighbouring country's legal system. 

It appears the guy has a UK criminal conviction.... a pity that doesn't block him from leaving the UK or entering Thailand. 

12 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Presuming that embassy has the wherewithal to ensure the message gets out to other countries. Let us hope so. I am not sure where the consulate's responsibilities lie, to their citizen, or some neighbouring country's legal system. 

It appears the guy has a UK criminal conviction.... a pity that doesn't block him from leaving the UK or entering Thailand. 

 

If he was here on a long term visa it's a damning indictment on Thailands process that they do not require a crimal record check to obtain a visa. They ask for all sorts of nonsense which does your head in, but a basic criminal record check is something they don't ask for. 

 

Vietnam does require a criminal record check. Most countries have a equivlant process, eg to work in airports, government jobs Even India has a process. 

 

 

Over the many years I have lived here there has been a few who have done one over the boarders, didnt one such woman escape over to Cambodia over some dodgy rice deal and is still on the run? 

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

According to the Land Traffic Act 291 (amended 2017) Reckless Driving Causing Death carries 3–10 years prison sentence + a fine of between 60,000–200,000 baht.

 

But... I do wonder if the same charges would be applied to a poor or middle class Thai... i.e. being charged with Negligent Homicide instead, which carries are prison sentence of 'up-to' 10 years  (i.e. so they could get away with 6 month sentence etc).

 

The issue with all of these reports is that follow up information is non-existent to extremely rare, so we never know exactly what a Thai would get under the same circumstances.

 

Nevertheless - regardless of what 'someone else' got - a mother of two has been killed for the stupid and reckless actions of someone who is either a mindless fool or had a moment of stupidity - he has to pay whatever consequences he is faced with - whatever the consequences its still far less than losing a mum at such a young age (for the children).

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40034770.

That's the policeman that hit the doctor in 2022.

22 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

There are local media rumours that he has already fled illegally across the border into a neighbouring country, but authorities have not confirmed this. 

 

Hopefully he went across the Cambodian border and cleared a few land mines on his way!

These people come to Thailand, act like a-holes, and think they can do anything they please. He took this woman’s future away from her, he should get more than 10 years. I truly feel so sad for her family!

22 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

There are local media rumours that he has already fled illegally across the border into a neighbouring country, but authorities have not confirmed this. 

This would be the logical thing to do. In the current climate, Cambodia would be the logical country. 

22 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The 22-year-old British tourist accused of killing a woman while attempting a motorbike stunt in Pattaya could now face up to 10 years in prison after the victim died in hospital.

Excellent, I hope he gets the full 10 years and has time to reflect on his actions...

Why this AO wasn't locked up. Hopefully he will learn a lesson. Eye for a eye should be introduced.

Why the heck was he released from custody???   

as if this guy is facing 10 years in a thai prison LOL

 

probably playing pool right now somewhere in pattaya with his friends or already left for Vietnam/Laos then next flight home