1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Indeed, Ranstad. Thank you Jerry.

OK.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

And I'm thinking this man wasn't the shooter anyway,

 

Based on what evidence???

Just now, RayC said:

You - and others, both left and right - would have been better off reflecting on the effect that Charlie Kirk's murder will have on his family and how we might avoid a repeat of this tragic event, rather than trying to make political capital out of it.

 

I'm not making political capital out of it, I'm just calling out those who are trying to deny what has happened.

 

People like you who throw around insults like Racist and Nazi might want to take a good long look at themselves though. 

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

What makes you think that?

That I don't see any rifle with him, the one found being a full sized Mauser, in the woods, with the other evidence left, which can be a decoy to let the real shooter get away. If he had a bag with a rifle in it, why is the rifle found not a smaller one that would fit in a small bag, meaning the ones in them pictures above? The rifle found wasn''t in a bag!

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

This bag is clearly an elongated, longer bag. You can see it as he throws it down before he climbs down. Second 18.

Watched for first time and yeah, for sure shooter was carrying a long bag. 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

Here's a name to watch:  Skye Valadez.

 

Photo looks about right with a haircut.

 

A transgender biological male from Utah posted a song to SoundCloud titled “Charlie Kirk Dead at 31” a month before his assassination.

 

The person behind the SoundCloud project appears to use the name Skye Valadez and identifies as “she/her” on social media.  Valadez also posted a song titled “Charlie Kirk’s Death Isn’t Enough for Me.”

 

I'll let you Google for the photos.  It's making the rounds, even in India.

 

 

I think you got him. That's him.

 

https://www.hypefresh.com/4chan-users-target-trans-musician-in-charlie-kirk-shooting/

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Based on what evidence???

Read my other replies, which is a theory and can explain why a full sized rifle was found in the woods, no bag, and the man that jumped wasn't with a full size rifle but maybe just a backpack like that person in the stairs picture. He might have been paid to throw off the real shooter and what could they do if they caught him without a weapon? Also the narrator did not mention a rifle with the man but that they found a rifle in the woods the man entered, which could already have been left there by an accomplice.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I think you got him. That's him.

 

https://www.hypefresh.com/4chan-users-target-trans-musician-in-charlie-kirk-shooting/

 

I'm just calling him a "person of interest"  

 

I think it was picked up in India because of time zone differences.

 

42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Which left wing American politicians have been assassinated lately Ray?

 

Seems it's always the right wingers getting shot. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

 

Happy to assist.

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

 

Happy to assist.

 

You already did. 😃

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I've used them, mainly hunting with shotguns in the UK but also AK47's in Vietnam (as a tourist I might add, not a soldier). The only 'Nam I've "fought" in was Chelt'nam on a Friday night. 😃

 

As you know, it's similar to a golf bag in so much as you don't need a special type of golf club (gun) to go in it. 

 

Here's a travel tip:  Don't use a rifle case for your golf clubs or fishing rods when flying international...

 

Ask me how I learned that.

 

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm just calling him a "person of interest"  

 

I think it was picked up in India because of time zone differences.

 

 

He lives in Utah.

 

He''s a trans male.

 

He looks exactly like the photo the FBI published (jaw and mouth)

 

And he uplaoded a song "Charlie Kirk dead at 31".

 

Then his online activity ceased at the time of the shooting.

 

I think some people on 4Chan have done some good work here.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Read my other replies, which is a theory and can explain why a full sized rifle was found in the woods, no bag, and the man that jumped wasn't with a full size rifle but maybe just a backpack like that person in the stairs picture. He might have been paid to throw off the real shooter and what could they do if they caught him without a weapon? Also the narrator did not mention a rifle with the man but that they found a rifle in the woods the man entered, which could already have been left there by an accomplice.

 

You seem very keen to promote bizarre theories other than the one which explains what obviously happened. 😆 

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm just calling him a "person of interest"  

 

I think it was picked up in India because of time zone differences.

 

 

Valadez’s online presence includes protest photos in a yellow safety vest with transgender and pride flags, plus interests in guns and musicians like Ethel Cain. Friends and followers, some linked to local spots like a drink shop in Orem just minutes from the campus, have only added to the chatter surrounding the Charlie Kirk shooter.

 

https://www.hypefresh.com/4chan-users-target-trans-musician-in-charlie-kirk-shooting/

 

I think they got him. But the only thing "Skye  Valadez" is obviously not his real name but his trans online name.

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You seem very keen to promote bizarre theories other than the one which explains what obviously happened. 😆 

The only evidence they have is a  rifle they've found, not yet matched to a possible bullet with ballistics. There is a man jumping down off a building, holding a shirt and or bag,which could hold a breakdown or smaller rifle.

 

They found a full sized Mauser type 30-o6 rifle, no bag, in the woods the man ran into.

 

The rifle might have been planted already by someone else, lending credence to that man who another left a link for, who said it could be a terrorist or another group that paid to have this done.

 

There are a lot of theories here but little evidence. There is evidence left with the rifle and for what reason? To throw off investigators or was it just a radical, mentally ill man who disliked Kirk for any reason of their own?

 

Was there another shooter and this man was just paid to be there and to run away, with no gun, while the real shooter got away, and if they caught him what could they do? The real shooter could have been further away, as it isn't easy to pinpoint a first shot's location, especially if the real shooter was off to the side 50 yards or so away. In the panic, many people ran away, and once the man on the roof got down on the ground, he could look like anyone else trying to avoid being shot.

 

This man ran right past a few people walking and in cars, and no one has said anything yet.The narrator in the video did not mention him having a rifle when he jumped off the building. just that they found a rifle in the woods he ran into. Again, all theories until, or if, he is caught. That new evidence might show it's him, but was he acting alone?

The best info Skye Valadez so far:

 

https://snn.bz/law-order/skye-valadez-transgender-artist-eyed-as-suspect-in-charlie-kirk-shooting/

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

To throw off investigators or was it just a radical, mentally ill man who disliked Kirk for any reason of their own?

 

Yes, it was just a radical, mentally ill man who disliked Kirk for his stance on trans issues.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes, it was just a radical, mentally ill man who disliked Kirk for his stance on trans issues.

 

Yes, it does look like the killer is a transsexual. His family own a tatoo shop. A family destroyed by a transexual fanatic.

 

https://snn.bz/law-order/skye-valadez-transgender-artist-eyed-as-suspect-in-charlie-kirk-shooting/

7 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

 @fredwiggy

 

The high level of understanding you have after reading your comments 

Makes want to ask you share what it is about how you have grasped this thru a job or...?

Friends who are police, selling guns for years and being around them, watching many crime shows and seeing many people shooting others throughout the years and how some get away with it, like Kennedy. Conspiracy theories sometimes pan out. Like i said, it could be a simple as a radical that hated Kirk, to  a group that wanted him dead and paid for a patsy.If it's Valadez, and his dislike towards Kirk is noted, he should be found easily.

Alleged assassin Skye Valadez debates with Charlie Kirk.

 

Some people are claiming this person arguing with Charlie Kirk is Skye Valadez, the killer.

 

 

Can I ask the "left wingers" what they are trying to achieve on this thread? 

 

One guy has posted 40 times "how do you know it's a leftie." And several more have joined in with that fatuous point. 

 

It's safe to say that whoever shot Charlie from 200 yards was not a fan. Surely you can agree that? 

 

Anyway - what are you trying to achive? Are you just plain terrified that when the guy is caught he's a card carrying Democrat? 

As for Skye Valadez - I'd be handing myself in if I were innocent. 

 

No way I'd be walking the streets knowing the Feds and/or American public was looking for me. 

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Alleged assassin Skye Valadez debates with Charlie Kirk.

 

Some people are claiming this person arguing with Charlie Kirk is Skye Valadez, the killer.

 

 

Maybe.

Anyway in their debate I assume they were referring to the "Maryland man" who was illegally deported to El Salvador as there was a standing court order not to deport him to El Salvador.

Kirk was correct he is not a U.S. citizen but was legally living there.

It was never proven he was a member of MS13.

He definitely hadn't been even accused of murder.

Kirk was 100 percent wrong that due process only applies to citizens. Enough time has passed now to call out Kirk as the white nationalist maga authoritarian extremist that he was.

It was good that engaged with people. Sure. But his views were extremely toxic and hate filled against anyone not fitting his very narrow ignorant mold of what a good American is -- white, Christian, straight, male, if female non-feminist.

This thread has been going on long enough and become stale it has took over The website's topics. 

6 minutes ago, theblether said:

Can I ask the "left wingers" what they are trying to achieve on this thread? 

 

One guy has posted 40 times "how do you know it's a leftie." And several more have joined in with that fatuous point. 

 

It's safe to say that whoever shot Charlie from 200 yards was not a fan. Surely you can agree that? 

 

Anyway - what are you trying to achive? Are you just plain terrified that when the guy is caught he's a card carrying Democrat? 

 

They are trying to obfuscate. Muddy the waters with reams of irrelevant "info", it's a strategy to escape having to admit that the killers is an ANTIFA and LGBT fanatic.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Maybe.

Anyway in their debate I assume they were referring to the "Maryland man" who was illegally deported to El Salvador as there was a standing court order not to deport him to El Salvador.

It was never proven he was a member of MS13.

He definitely hadn't been even accused of murder.

Kirk was 100 percent wrong that due process only applies to citizens. Enough time has passed now to call out Kirk as the white nationalist maga authoritarian extremist that he was.

It was good that engaged with people. Sure. But his views were extremely toxic and hate filled against anyone not fitting his very narrow ignorant mold of what a good American is -- white, Christian, straight, male, if female non-feminist.

 

No, he wasn't "hate-filled" at all. He was very open to debate with anyone, blacks, trans, leftists, always trusting his own ideology was correct. He was articulate and he was the one hated, because he won many of the arguments he engaged in.

 

Yes, his views were at times at odds with left-of-centre mainstream views, but he certainly was not hate-filled in the slightest. He was a god-fearing and religious man.

2 hours ago, sharot724 said:

With so many making up these posts here, I thought our old buddy Roger Stone needs posting as he has made this shocking claim that he knows who the killer is!!

 

 

 

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/roger-stone-charlie-kirk-shooter-35887188?int_source=nba

No, he did not claim to "know who the killer was"...he suggested a number of possibilities, nothing more.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, he wasn't "hate-filled" at all. He was very open to debate with anyone, blacks, trans, leftists, always trusting his own ideology was correct. He was articulate and he was the one hated, because he won many of the arguments he engaged in.

 

Yes, his views were at times at odds with left-of-centre mainstream views, but he certainly was not hate-filled in the slightest. He was a god-fearing and religious man.

Sorry. I don't agree. Much of his rhetoric was indeed HATE SPEECH against pretty much all minority groups.

Was he more reasonable than clowns like Tucker Carlson? I'll give you that.

 

I will also go so far as to call him a moron.

Why?

Assuming he was actually a real Christian as he espoused, most of his work was in the service of helping Donald Trump come to and get more power, who is definitely NOT a Christian and definitely does NOT promote Christian values.

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This thread has been going on long enough and become stale it has took over The website's topics. 

 

No. 

 

The highest profile political assasination in the USA for decades deserves to be more than a 48 hour flash in the pan news topic. 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Much of his rhetoric was indeed HATE SPEECH against pretty much all minority groups.

 

Not really. Just robust debate and opposing views. But not hate-filled.

 

He was too religious to be hate-filled.

 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Was he more reasonable than clowns like Tucker Carlson? I'll give you that.

 

I think he was extremely reasonable. I don't agree with his defense of Israel, but even there he was even handed and opposed pro Israelis trying to curtail the right of pro Palestinians to speak on campus.