35 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Another good subject is why do people want to continue with life when they have various serious illnesses and life is miserable

That won't be me  

"We're all old, why does nobody want to talk about death?"    well we are

now , if it helps you , Death and Taxes ,both things that are impossible to

avoid ,although you can evade one of them  .

 

At 81 I have had a good life ,been around the World ,leave 3 successful kids,

I am not afraid of death ,just don't want it to be painful ,the way it seems the

future is going ,just pleased to be alive at the time I was ,childhood great ,when

you actually played outside ,then the 60 s ,great music, free love ,then it started

to go down hill from then ,to what its become today ,for an old man it's not good.     Well I hope you all have long happy ,healthy lives ,and I'll see you on

the other side 

 

regards Worgeordie

 

 

 

1 hour ago, sidjameson said:

Curious. Could you tell your age and a few items in that bucket.

Asking because at 57 I used to have the same feelings but recently noticed I don't any more.

Bucket list ... personal choices, but I get bored really fast.  Not a home town, state or province kind of guy.   So very different from those quite happy marrying their high school sweetheart, raising kids, and sitting around the fireplace with grandkids on the holidays

 

A few activities on the list,  a bit more than simply hiking the Appalachian trail, and only parts of, nothing really intense.  Then there's driving at silly, break neck speed in cars & motorcycles, and surviving.  Safer things, like SCUBA, Parachute out of plane (static line), white water rafting, deep sea fishing, jet skis, small boats <20 ft, canoeing.  Enjoy firearms, but not a hunter.

 

Worked for 4 airlines, so traveling was easy & inexpensive, and took advantage of that.  20 ish (?) countries, mostly N. America, a few in EU.  Almost all of the states in USA.  A few countries in SEA. TH & short visits next door.

 

Saw almost every musical artist / band live, that I wanted to, when & if alive. Sex, drugs & RR (& Jazz, folk music) thingy.

 

I hate being idle, so TH was a big adjustment, being so small, no 'arts', and my dread to be on any flight over 2 hrs, let alone dealing with long check ins.   Really got spoiled working for airlines.  

 

On that, without the wee one, and the last & best unexpected on bucket list, I would have left TH,  1 or 2 yrs after arriving, before even old enough for retirement visa.  To where, haven't a clue, possibly, probably, back to USA, as 2002 ish, and inflation hadn't taken off yet.   Thanks to the kid, I stayed, and worked out great.

 

So when time to crap out, no regrets here 

46 minutes ago, falangUK said:

Would you mind sharing what your daily routine I like? Please 🙏 

Sure.

 

Daily; Lots of exercise (lap swimming, weightlifting, cardio work) healthy eating, 2 hr foot massage,, fun with TGF, interactions with mates. Dining-out at a new restaurant. Catching up on movies and watching live sport from around the world. Word puzzles and reading. 
 

Monthly: 1/ a holiday with the TGF to a new Thai location of her choice . 2/ A trip with mates only to our favourite “adult only” locations in the Kingdom - TGF allows this, God bless her. 

 

Quarterly: 1/ An overseas trip with the TGF to a country of her choice 2/ An overseas trip (just me) back to my homeland to catch up with family, friends and various (big) sporting events - eg returning home next Saturday for my country’s football grand finals. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, Nemises said:

Sure.

 

Daily; Lots of exercise (lap swimming, weightlifting, cardio work) healthy eating, 2 hr foot massage,, fun with TGF, interactions with mates. Dining-out at a new restaurant. Catching up on movies and watching live sport from around the world. Word puzzles and reading. 
 

Monthly: 1/ a holiday with the TGF to a new Thai location of her choice . 2/ A trip with mates only to our favourite “adult only” locations in the Kingdom - TGF allows this, God bless her. 

 

Quarterly: 1/ An overseas trip with the TGF to a country of her choice 2/ An overseas trip (just me) back to my homeland to catch up with family, friends and various (big) sporting events - eg returning home next Saturday for my country’s football grand finals. 
 

 

Thanks a lot. exercise, plenty of travel, and hanging out with mates…

 

sounds really nice indeed. Sounds a lot more exciting than my life now at 48, lol, even though I travel quite a bit and am on the road right now.

 

 

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Almost everyone posting on this forum is over 65, almost everyone I encounter is over 60.

The next major act in all our lives is death, but nobody dares talk about it, and everyone seems to think they've got lots of time left.

 

   I remember you posting that you didn't think that you would make it to 50 and you would  be content bailing out at 49, even looking forward to it .

Do you send Christmas card to the Grim reaper every year ?

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Another good subject is why do people want to continue with life when they have various serious illnesses and life is miserable

Some people cling onto the hope that new techniques/medication will be found and they will then get better. My mother fought metastatic disease believing that her palliative medication would cure her. As the disease progressed her medicines became ineffective. Her overall condition worsened to the extent that she asked to die.

19 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Some people cling onto the hope that new techniques/medication will be found and they will then get better. My mother fought metastatic disease believing that her palliative medication would cure her. As the disease progressed her medicines became ineffective. Her overall condition worsened to the extent that she asked to die.

and my parents with Parkinson's and dementia leave it too late and it's just suffering to the end, although with dementia seems easier once they forget

Being one of the younger posters here this state of mind hasnt hit me yet.

 

I figure in 20 years if im still alive the healthcare will be vastly different from now and able to cure most of the issues we face dying of in today's world.

24 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Some people cling onto the hope that new techniques/medication will be found and they will then get better. My mother fought metastatic disease believing that her palliative medication would cure her. As the disease progressed her medicines became ineffective. Her overall condition worsened to the extent that she asked to die.

 

I am one of those who cling onto that hope. At 48 I stand a pretty good chance of seeing it come to fruition.

Quiet Preparation.

I accept my mortality, but don't (yet) feel ready to kick-the-bucket. Talk openly and freely with my family about death. No taboo.

Married to a wonderful Thai for 43 years, daughter, grandkids, small bungalow in Ratchaburi, two 'daft' dogs, big garden.

Life-time's savings in joint names in Guernsey and Isle of Man, where UK taxman can't get them; just bringing enough into Thailand (two tranches - one for me, one for missus) so the Thai taxman can't grab either.

Living a quiet, happy life, a few aches and pains, a serious and pricey piece of surgery last year, yet no reason to give it all up. 

 

BUT

Day-to day Thai (and all foreign) bank accounts in joint names with either / or signature. I die, account operation goes automatically to missus (and vice versa). Immigration 800k account in just my name - kept untouched - missus has the online details and can subtly drain the cash when I've gone, or, she can use my Thai Will to get Thai probate and draw the funds the 'proper' way. Up to her. 

Thai and foreign wills written, signed, witnessed, notarised, put away safely where the family can get at them quickly.

Thai Living Will signed, witnessed translated, notarised - making it clear what medical interventions I refuse if I'm terminally ill.

And, just today, I signed a contract for a Prepaid Funeral Plan for a Direct Cremation with a Funeral Director in Bangkok.

No ceremony, no attendees, body collected, cremated, funeral director does all the running around officialdom (Embassy, Official Translation of Thai Death Certificate, notarised at Foreign Affairs etc) and ashes returned to my next of kin, to later have a 'Celebration of Life' gathering whenever they want; THB47,000 all-in! I'm a lifelong agnostic, so do not want the hypocrisy of men-in-orange chanting over my body, with duplicitous neighbours (some of whom I despise, and they, me) faux-grieving over me. 

 

So, with the peace of mind I have with everything in place for my family after my demise, I carry on taking life each day as it comes, with its many surprises and simple pleasures. 

8 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

LOL.................. my Will says that I want to be cremated in the country in which I die......................I am hoping that will be Thailand.

will you be shipping your cremation machine over her for one last burn?  A do it yourself job?  after all you know what they say , "if you want it doing properly then do it yourself"

Or will any of your descendants continue with, what I assume is, the family business?

7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

will you be shipping your cremation machine over her for one last burn?  A do it yourself job?  after all you know what they say , "if you want it doing properly then do it yourself"

Or will any of your descendants continue with, what I assume is, the family business?

 

Not a family business but my daughters inherit my shares when I am gone. 

 

No.....I will settle for the standard fry up at the local wat with my ashes (bones) dispersed wherever my missus chooses. I have already established that my family have no desire to attend a cremation over here, nor do they need an urn on their mantelpieces.

 

I have always believed that when you are dead, you are dead and it is those left behind who have to deal with the consequences of that. That is why I have encouraged people to talk about what THEY want to happen after their death. Make provision NOW while you can influence what happens.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

 

I am one of those who cling onto that hope. At 48 I stand a pretty good chance of seeing it come to fruition.

At 48, I figured I was one of the old folks on here, lol.

 

30 minutes ago, Dah fahrang said:

Quiet Preparation.

I accept my mortality, but don't (yet) feel ready to kick-the-bucket. Talk openly and freely with my family about death. No taboo.

Married to a wonderful Thai for 43 years, daughter, grandkids, small bungalow in Ratchaburi, two 'daft' dogs, big garden.

Life-time's savings in joint names in Guernsey and Isle of Man, where UK taxman can't get them; just bringing enough into Thailand (two tranches - one for me, one for missus) so the Thai taxman can't grab either.

Living a quiet, happy life, a few aches and pains, a serious and pricey piece of surgery last year, yet no reason to give it all up. 

 

BUT

Day-to day Thai (and all foreign) bank accounts in joint names with either / or signature. I die, account operation goes automatically to missus (and vice versa). Immigration 800k account in just my name - kept untouched - missus has the online details and can subtly drain the cash when I've gone, or, she can use my Thai Will to get Thai probate and draw the funds the 'proper' way. Up to her. 

Thai and foreign wills written, signed, witnessed, notarised, put away safely where the family can get at them quickly.

Thai Living Will signed, witnessed translated, notarised - making it clear what medical interventions I refuse if I'm terminally ill.

And, just today, I signed a contract for a Prepaid Funeral Plan for a Direct Cremation with a Funeral Director in Bangkok.

No ceremony, no attendees, body collected, cremated, funeral director does all the running around officialdom (Embassy, Official Translation of Thai Death Certificate, notarised at Foreign Affairs etc) and ashes returned to my next of kin, to later have a 'Celebration of Life' gathering whenever they want; THB47,000 all-in! I'm a lifelong agnostic, so do not want the hypocrisy of men-in-orange chanting over my body, with duplicitous neighbours (some of whom I despise, and they, me) faux-grieving over me. 

 

So, with the peace of mind I have with everything in place for my family after my demise, I carry on taking life each day as it comes, with its many surprises and simple pleasures. 

I wish I had your get up and go and gumption to get everything teed up and in order which you have clearly done. This will no doubt be of great benefit to your family when the time comes.

 

Your post has given me a lot of food for thought, particularly the Prepaid Funeral Plan. Thank you for sharing. 

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I remember you posting that you didn't think that you would make it to 50 and you would  be content bailing out at 49, even looking forward to it .

Do you send Christmas card to the Grim reaper every year ?

Think your memory is at fault, as I didn't join this forum until 2016 and I would have been 59 back then.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

 

I am one of those who cling onto that hope. At 48 I stand a pretty good chance of seeing it come to fruition.

I doubt that in the future anything will be better for the general population, there probably won't even be pensions. Work until you die!

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I doubt that in the future anything will be better for the general population, there probably won't even be pensions. Work until you die!

 

Absolutely on the pensions. I haven't been counting on that for a long time. But I will work till I die. A guy can have some pointless hope though.

 

The population will be drastically reduced before any of that though.

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

Is it a form of delusion or fear that stops people thinking about their soon to come death?

People think about death more often when life lacks meaning. Delusion and fear have little to with it in my case. 

 

I'm lucky to be in good health, have a partner that gets sexier every year, and not wanting much more than I have at the moment.  Not a bucket list type.  I do meaningful things but only because it feels like a good thing to do.

 

 

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You've given up on finding a woman that loves you for yourself?

I don’t know about Fred Wiggley, but I definitely have.
 

Bucket list – wise, I’m done. I’ve been everywhere I wanna go. I can buy or eat whatever I want, which isn’t much.
 

I long to long for something. But other than good health, I can’t think of a thing.

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

all I have in front of me is increasing aches, pains, odd and more frequent illnesses, my mobility reducing and my body failing.

 

Could it be the effect from that "accident"?

 

Maybe thai doctors didn't patch you up that well?

 

 

 

Personally i don't wanna die now.

 

My wife promised me awesome threesome once we are back in Thailand.  I don't wanna die.

Anyway, maybe you need a new hobby? I'm thinking about career in Japan. The industry has become more open to foreigners.

 

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm a hunter and fisherman.

Sure you are. You are awesome Freddy

I'm going to go out smiling. Like him:

 

2 hours ago, Celsius said:

Personally i don't wanna die now.

 

My wife promised me awesome threesome once we are back in Thailand.  I don't wanna die.

She might have meant another bloke making up the threesome.

 

Perhaps you may want to reconsider your current stance?......

Just now, Keeps said:

She might have meant another bloke making up the threesome.

 

Perhaps you may want to reconsider your current stance?......

 

Anything is fine, I'm desperate.

9 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure you are. You are awesome Freddy

To be fair, he wants to move back to Texas because there isn’t anything big enough for him to shoot and gut in Southeast Asia.
 

So that does make him a hunter.

19 hours ago, atpeace said:

 have a partner that gets sexier every year, 

 

 

That's called failing eyesight. Whatever you do, don't put on glasses. 

14 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

That's called failing eyesight. Whatever you do, don't put on glasses. 

could be and good advice.