3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

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Of course she wouldn't "ghost me". She's texting me every day. Day and night. But it's a huge production, I'd be unable to work, and as soon as I go, she's back in his place anyway. I don't even like Phuket. Been there. She should be coming HERE.

So... the following scenarios...

1) Throw her to the dogs and call it all off...

... Then continue the same song and dance until the 9th when she asks if she can come to CM.

[that parts getting worn and tired - the forum needs something fresh !!]

2) You give in and go to Phuket...

.... a) She Ghosts you.

.... b) She stays with you - she still plays around - its a nightmare - but you take her back to Chiang Mai on the 9th anyway.

.... c) She stays with you - magically she's well behaved - no dating apps no playing around, you do your work and all is great.

[B is the only thing likely to happen in this scenario - good forum material though !]

3) Stay in Chiang Mai and continue as you are with her...

.... 'shamelessly' she still plays around - you deal with it and she comes to you on the 9th.

[that parts getting worn and tired - the forum needs something fresh !!]

4) You stay in Chiang Mai and continue as you are with her...

.... then on the 9th, she tells you she has to go to Sisaket to 'vote'... and can't come visit you - everyone tells you she's in Pattaya Banging some guy of tinder - we are all wrong - she stayed in Phuket still banging Hitlers Nephew with one bollok, and any tatted up bogan who'll pay.

[most likely to happen]

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

So... the following scenarios...

1) Throw her to the dogs and call it all off...

... Then continue the same song and dance until the 9th when she asks if she can come to CM.

[that parts getting worn and tired - the forum needs something fresh !!]

2) You give in and go to Phuket...

.... a) She Ghosts you.

.... b) She stays with you - she still plays around - its a nightmare - but you take her back to Chiang Mai on the 9th anyway.

.... c) She stays with you - magically she's well behaved - no dating apps no playing around, you do your work and all is great.

[B is the only thing likely to happen in this scenario - good forum material though !]

3) Stay in Chiang Mai and continue as you are with her...

.... 'shamelessly' she still plays around - you deal with it and she comes to you on the 9th.

[that parts getting worn and tired - the forum needs something fresh !!]

4) You stay in Chiang Mai and continue as you are with her...

.... then on the 9th, she tells you she has to go to Sisaket to 'vote'... and can't come visit you - everyone tells you she's in Pattaya Banging some guy of tinder - we are all wrong - she stayed in Phuket still banging Hitlers Nephew with one bollok, and any tatted up bogan who'll pay.

[most likely to happen]

I vote for 2(c)

7 hours ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Not a good match for you then 😊

She is not. He lies about everything. Remember that monstrosity from Phuket is a 9.

This one may be a classy prostitute.

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I vote for 2(c)

Not even a probability !!....

Oh... I forgot 2e...

2) You give in and go to Phuket...

.... d) She stays with you - someone drops off her two kids and you end up baby-sitting while she disappears like a turd in a flooded Soi to tune the organ of a tatted roid-head...

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Well, it's certainly better to have loved and lost this particular girl. At her best, she is a man's dream. At her worst, she's a nightmare.

It was a magnificent 40 days. But I'm paying a high price now. I was careful with financial resources and investment. But I massively over-invested emotionally with a person, who may be unable to feel emotions in a normal way.

You live and learn.

We also have limited emotional resources. How to ration these is the hardest. I tried that with BKK girl, and didn't work out very well.

Yea here's a hint. Don't get attached to prostitutes.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

I vote for 2(c)

this is foolish isn't it? How are you going to shake the feeling of the 63 year old pensioner with broken hands? You're going to some kind of deep vaginal cleansing spa and even so would that be enough? 😂

23 hours ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

It's only been four days. You must mean a 'working week' 😊

I guess Cammy is working on his pipeline. But he knows that he cannot recreate his forty day experience just like that. He's like an addict who needs to come down. He should take the time to do that.

My two sons one who now lives in NZ with his NZ wife and 3 year old daughter, and my son from England and his English girlfriend was here so I was out and about, it involved a few beers, food and travel, they have gone back now so yes the few days did seem like a week, great fun. 😀

Re: Cannelloni, no one can be that stupid or egotistical so I am 75% leaning towards the fact that he is taking the pissssssss, but it is still funny.

23 hours ago, Celsius said:

No no no, you’re completely wrong, you don’t get it at all. You’ve barely even know her from what he disclosed on this forum. You think that’s enough to actually know her? Please. You haven’t seen the real her, the one who opens up when it’s just them. Yeah, okay, she lies sometimes to other people, to protect herself, whatever but with him? With him she’s different. She’s been brutally honest, like scarily honest, the kind of honest most people can’t even handle. She told him things she’s never told anyone else, ever. That means something. That’s not nothing.

And sure, fine, maybe she’s still… bending the truth here and there right now, but that’s only because she’s scared, because she’s been burned so many times before, because people like you keep judging her without understanding the context. It’s not the same. It’s not even comparable. When she lies to everyone else it’s survival, it’s just how she copes but when she’s with him the mask is off. Completely. Except for maybe one or two tiny things she’s still working through, but that’s not lying-lying, that’s just… processing. You wouldn’t understand that part either.

Good one 😃

I have not read the lates replies yet but I bet Cannelloni will take your pisssssssss take comment as a positive remark supporting his view of the world according to Phuket-Isaan-Girl.

20 hours ago, mangkut70 said:

As so often in this thread - I totally agree with you.

Funny the metaphor you used. Spot on.

Maybe you know, they used to call the working girls in Cambodia (mostly Viets in the trade back then) Taxi-girls. 

Always thought that’s an excellent and dead-on term. Haven't heard this in use now for a while already.

I did not know that about Cambodia.

But it is so easy to see what is going on.

The pattern is exactly the same one used by all call girls, and for how many hundreds if not thousand of years.

I do not blame the girls as they are just doing a job, if the guys want to add the fiction where the girls love them and want them then that is also part of the service the girls are selling these old guys, they would not get anywhere near a good looking 24 year old in 'real life', so the pretence from the girls is part of the service.

I remember a line from a movie, a guy asked a call girl what her name is and she replied she will be any name the punter wants here to be.

The girls get the money and the guys get to believe these girls really like them, plus the sex, it is a sort of business contract.

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

this is foolish isn't it? How are you going to shake the feeling of the 63 year old pensioner with broken hands?

Well... she's not into money (apparently) and she keeps going back to him - hands are broken, must be some stellar performance he keeps putting on... dynamite in sack even !!! ... poor young insatiable Norris McWhirter - she just can't stay away !!

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Well... she's not into money (apparently) and she keeps going back to him - hands are broken, must be some stellar performance he keeps putting on... dynamite in sack even !!! ... poor young insatiable Norris McWhirter - she just can't stay away !!

2 words.

BETA CUCK

She's back 😊

😝 don’t want meet for sex🙅🙅🙅🙅

Age

24

Gender

Female

Looking for

Man

Min. age

Any

Max. age

Any

Country

Thailand

City

Phuket

Last Active

28 second ago

Height

160cm / 5 ft 2 in

Weight

48kg / 106lbs

46 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

She's back 😊

😝 don’t want meet for sex🙅🙅🙅🙅

Age

24

Gender

Female

Looking for

Man

Min. age

Any

Max. age

Any

Country

Thailand

City

Phuket

Last Active

28 second ago

Height

160cm / 5 ft 2 in

Weight

48kg / 106lbs

Puhhleezee .....tell me you don't have the full story without telling me you don't have the full story! Cameroni is the one with the full story not us. She was likely just making sure the delete button actually worked. Or that the pictures are gone. I am sure there is a good reason why account is not deleted just deactivated. Lets refrain from conspiracy theories until Cameroni confirms with us. He's the only one we can trust!

5 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Puhhleezee .....tell me you don't have the full story without telling me you don't have the full story! Cameroni is the one with the full story not us. She was likely just making sure the delete button actually worked. Or that the pictures are gone. I am sure there is a good reason why account is not deleted just deactivated. Lets refrain from conspiracy theories until Cameroni confirms with us. He's the only one we can trust!

My memory is short but my feet are long.

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

My work involves a monitor, a microphone, it's not really possible to lug that around

hopefully not one of these infamous scammers the news is full of?

Scameroni?😁

8 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

this is foolish isn't it? How are you going to shake the feeling of the 63 year old pensioner with broken hands? You're going to some kind of deep vaginal cleansing spa and even so would that be enough? 😂

Yes it is foolish. I don't know myself what it will be like if I see her again. Knowing all she did. How unkind she was. How she lied. That she had sex with this 63 year old. Went on Tinder again. Added another 3 guys on Insta. If I look in her eyes, I don't know what I would feel then. How could it be the same? Would contempt not raise its ugly head, my contempt for what she did? Resentment. Distrust. All this would surely destroy any chance of a good relationship.

The sex itself, I mean she'd have had sex with him before she came to see me the first time. It's the same guy. No difference in that regard. But this feels very different to Bangkok girl's betrayal. When I found that out she was in my house, the betrayal was in the past. This, however, is very different. This feels like the Truman Show of cruelty, every day I wake up to think she's sleeping with this guy. And this is supposed to go on for 2 more weeks.

That's another reason why I don't want to go to Phuket. It would be like entering the set of this Truman show of cruelty. Sure the beaches could be nice, but I'd be thinking "who did she walk on these beaches with before? Did she walk with the 63 year old here?". I already disliked Phuket before, imagine now. But really I have to go there to reduce the amount of days she's in bed with this monster.

Yesterday she told me she will not sleep in his bed. She will sleep on the couch. She'll tell him she has a headache and doesn't want sex. So late at night she texts me the Austrian told her "No", she has to sleep in bed with him anyway. When I found out I did not reply. I just went away for hours. Then I saw she'd sent so many texts. "No sex", "nooooooo", ten crying emojis in a row. Even texted me on Insta when I didn't read on Whatsapp. More crying emojis. She thought she'd lost me.

And the truth is I'm a fool for writing to her still. It's a terrible situation. This girl is either in financial straits and went to this guy again to live in Phuket and make money, or she really cares for him, which is hard to believe as he's hideous and 63. But either way it's like a reality show of betrayal, that renews every day. She says there's no sex now, but even if she would not initiate or reciprocate sex, this 63 year old monster has the world's sexiest woman lying next to him. There's no way he wouldn't roll over, paw her, kiss her, hug her, put his hands between her legs. And I know her, she orgasms faster than Bolt runs the 100 metres. There's no way they would not have sex in two weeks.

I really wonder, if I would see her again what I would feel. Surely all the magic would be gone. But love always hopes, love always perseveres.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes it is foolish. I don't know myself what it will be like if I see her again. Knowing all she did. How unkind she was. How she lied. That she had sex with this 63 year old. Went on Tinder again. Added another 3 guys on Insta. If I look in her eyes, I don't know what I would feel then. How could it be the same? Would contempt not raise its ugly head, my contempt for what she did? Resentment. Distrust. All this would surely destroy any chance of a good relationship.

The sex itself, I mean she'd have had sex with him before she came to see me the first time. It's the same guy. No difference in that regard. But this feels very different to Bangkok girl's betrayal. When I found that out she was in my house, the betrayal was in the past. This, however, is very different. This feels like the Truman Show of cruelty, every day I wake up to think she's sleeping with this guy. And this is supposed to go on for 2 more weeks.

That's another reason why I don't want to go to Phuket. It would be like entering the set of this Truman show of cruelty. Sure the beaches could be nice, but I'd be thinking "who did she walk on these beaches with before? Did she walk with the 63 year old here?". I already disliked Phuket before, imagine now. But really I have to go there to reduce the amount of days she's in bed with this monster.

Yesterday she told me she will not sleep in his bed. She will sleep on the couch. She'll tell him she has a headache and doesn't want sex. So late at night she texts me the Austrian told her "No", she has to sleep in bed with him anyway. When I found out I did not reply. I just went away for hours. Then I saw she'd sent so many texts. "No sex", "nooooooo", ten crying emojis in a row. Even texted me on Insta when I didn't read on Whatsapp. More crying emojis. She thought she'd lost me.

And the truth is I'm a fool for writing to her still. It's a terrible situation. This girl is either in financial straits and went to this guy again to live in Phuket and make money, or she really cares for him, which is hard to believe as he's hideous and 63. But either way it's like a reality show of betrayal, that renews every day. She says there's no sex now, but even if she would not initiate or reciprocate sex, this 63 year old monster has the world's sexiest woman lying next to him. There's no way he wouldn't roll over, paw her, kiss her, hug her, put his hands between her legs. And I know her, she orgasms faster than Bolt runs the 100 metres. There's no way they would not have sex in two weeks.

I really wonder, if I would see her again what I would feel. Surely all the magic would be gone. But love always hopes, love always perseveres.

Best to look at your obsession with a girl that can't be trusted, and why. Many times I and others have mentioned the fact that there are thousands of girls just like this all over Thailand.

This is how they were created, and will continue, as Thailand is a poor nation for the most part and people will do whatever they can to make ends meet.

For girls, those who have been hurt in their pasts, this means selling their wares for money. They've heard about it since they were able to from friends and family, that lowering yourself by selling your body to foreigners can get you a better life.

This of course comes at a price, mentally, as no matter what you think about these type of girls, and are guessing their diagnosis, they all have a mental issue from childhood that would take a lot of help to overcome, if at all possible.

Why waste another minute thinking about who this girl is with at the time? Again, there are thousands like her all over, easy to find and all it takes is being above the competition as far as what you can give them.

If you really wanted a normal girl, you need to go deep into the country and blend in, looking for one that's not been tainted by tourist areas, or find one working in a good paying job in a big city. One who is closer to an equal as far as pay here, and one that might be attracted to something more than money. Usually this means they will choose a local, as they can better relate to their own kind, but some will be attracted as all other women are, without money being the first priority.

This also means you change your priorities, from a much younger girl to an older woman. More mature, independent, skilled and knowledgeable on men and their ways. Less likely to lie, play games, cheat, manipulate and be on the hunt.

Again the question is why the obsession over one girl? Especially one that has proven to be like this. She is only telling you what you want to hear. If shes with him, she's with him, all the way. Any other thinking is naivete. Him being 63 means nothing, as you don't lose your style at 63. You'd be surprised how men at 70 are still very much all men. Some work out all their lives, as I'm one of them. To you he's a monster because he's with her, and you aren't. This is her choice, and the reasons aren't all money, although that's the main one, and not because he's 63. And we've all seen her, and she's far from the world's sexiest woman. Maybe to you.

FFS Cameroni here we are and still you are putting yourself through the wringer. When are you going to let this class A slapper go? The sooner you get over her the better. You have brought all over this on yourself totally played by a first class player. She couldn’t give a rats *ss about you there is zero hope with this one as just about everyone to a man has told you. Dump it, completely cut contact 100%. What she is doing with others has nothing to do with you she’s not your property. You are letting this consummate dirtbag control you, she’s pushing all your buttons and you are coming across as pathetic. Grow a set, man the eff up and go and have your fun somewhere else. Take back control, she’s a nut job, find another and get rid of your dirty water. Unfocus your attention on something you can no longer have and nor is she worthy. Move on!!

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

there are thousands of girls just like this all over Thailand.

Look, you're talking to someone who has spent the last 3 years flying in girls from all over Thailand. So you don't need to tell me "what's out there". I know very well what's out there. The fact is 90% of girls do not make the cut. Even if they're cute, they have a list of issues, too cold, to shy, too neurotic, too criminal, the majority of the girls, even if they have decent looks really don't cut it.

Phuket Girl is the kind of girl that comes along every 10 years or so. Yes, she's not unique, I had a similar girl, one that can reach those parts other's can't, but these girls are very rare. They come along only every 10 years. So you can't just replace Punket Girl. It's not possible.

Yes, she was untrustworthy, unkind and had many other flaws, but when you look at the whole package, she's one of those once in 10 years kind of girls.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

much younger girl to an older woman

I'd rather rip my own eyes out with a blunt fork. 28 is my hard limit.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

If shes with him, she's with him, all the way. Any other thinking is naivete

I know. Don't you think I'm aware her attempts to soothe me by saying she is not having sex with the monster are unlikely to be grounded in reality? It's unthinkable they won't have sex in 2 weeks plus .Which is what makes this so torturous. And I will never. Ever. Know the truth for sure.

Basically if I was your friend, I would had taken you to the gym, up in the boxing ring and slapped you around until you cried out and promised not to <deleted> around with this girl anymore!

That's the only medicine you would understand for the moment.

1 hour ago, Utalk2mutt said:

FFS Cameroni here we are and still you are putting yourself through the wringer. When are you going to let this class A slapper go? The sooner you get over her the better. You have brought all over this on yourself totally played by a first class player. She couldn’t give a rats *ss about you there is zero hope with this one as just about everyone to a man has told you. Dump it, completely cut contact 100%. What she is doing with others has nothing to do with you she’s not your property. You are letting this consummate dirtbag control you, she’s pushing all your buttons and you are coming across as pathetic. Grow a set, man the eff up and go and have your fun somewhere else. Take back control, she’s a nut job, find another and get rid of your dirty water. Unfocus your attention on something you can no longer have and nor is she worthy. Move on!!

I think you may have it the wrong way around. He is the nut job, a complete and total control freak who if cannot get his own way bags the crap out of ladies. Can see why the loser has never ever had a real gf.

1 hour ago, Utalk2mutt said:

FFS Cameroni here we are and still you are putting yourself through the wringer.

Yes, my capacity for suffering has always been greater than other men's.

1 hour ago, Utalk2mutt said:

When are you going to let this class A slapper go?

I really don't know. I suspect we will meet on 9 February. Obviously if she doesn't show, it would be the end. But even then. I've been playing the same cruel game with Filipina virgin. Telling her I'll bring her over for more than a year now. She's still talking to me.

1 hour ago, Utalk2mutt said:

have your fun somewhere else

Indeed the best way to get over another girl is to go out with a girl. So I have made a date with a very attractive girl for Sunday, who speaks excellent English, has a career and seems very interesting. Let's see.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Basically if I was your friend, I would had taken you to the gym, up in the boxing ring and slapped you around until you cried out and promised not to <deleted> around with this girl anymore!

That's the only medicine you would understand for the moment.

You're too kind, maybe it will be a disaster to see her again. I think the magic will be gone. At the moment though, I have the typical symptoms of someone who's been broken up with, you want her even more. And the worst she's telling me she wants to be with me. Yesterday again she said if I come to Phuket she'd be with me night and day.

I'll probably go to Phuket before 9 Feb.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

But really I have to go there to reduce the amount of days she's in bed with this monster.

She says there's no sex now, but even if she would not initiate or reciprocate sex, this 63 year old monster has the world's sexiest woman lying next to him.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know. Don't you think I'm aware her attempts to soothe me by saying she is not having sex with the monster are unlikely to be grounded in reality?

Why is he a monster ... is poor Phuket girl being held against her will by a tyrannical Austrian overlord. Don't think so.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You're too kind, maybe it will be a disaster to see her again. I think the magic will be gone. At the moment though, I have the typical symptoms of someone who's been broken up with, you want her even more. And the worst she's telling me she wants to be with me. Yesterday again she said if I come to Phuket she'd be with me night and day.

I'll probably go to Phuket before 9 Feb.

You know my view on this thread, and no need to repeat it, but I have seen guys before, who lost their minds, and it is not a pretty sight.

Dont kill yourself, dont kill her, it is not worth it

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Phuket Girl is the kind of girl that comes along every 10 years or so. Yes, she's not unique, I had a similar girl, one that can reach those parts other's can't, but these girls are very rare. They come along only every 10 years. So you can't just replace Punket Girl. It's not possible.

If this is the case you have extremely low expectations in a woman. This statement is simply beyond belief.

3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Why is he a monster ... is poor Phuket girl being held against her will by a tyrannical Austrian overlord. Don't think so.

For all we know, the Austrian character could be her best option in this world

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Look, you're talking to someone who has spent the last 3 years flying in girls from all over Thailand. So you don't need to tell me "what's out there". I know very well what's out there. The fact is 90% of girls do not make the cut. Even if they're cute, they have a list of issues, too cold, to shy, too neurotic, too criminal, the majority of the girls, even if they have decent looks really don't cut it.

Phuket Girl is the kind of girl that comes along every 10 years or so. Yes, she's not unique, I had a similar girl, one that can reach those parts other's can't, but these girls are very rare. They come along only every 10 years. So you can't just replace Punket Girl. It's not possible.

Yes, she was untrustworthy, unkind and had many other flaws, but when you look at the whole package, she's one of those once in 10 years kind of girls.

I'd rather rip my own eyes out with a blunt fork. 28 is my hard limit.

I know. Don't you think I'm aware her attempts to soothe me by saying she is not having sex with the monster are unlikely to be grounded in reality? It's unthinkable they won't have sex in 2 weeks plus .Which is what makes this so torturous. And I will never. Ever. Know the truth for sure.

From her picture, I've seen girls like that daily. Those that are fun are still there. You're still forgetting they all will do what they know a man wants as long as they're getting what they need.

You don't have to fly girls that look like that in, as they're in every province and every city. A girl that does what she's done, in your words, IS replaceable. What's not replaceable is a woman that meets your every need, is honest, loyal, trustworthy and attractive.

My ex wife is more attractive than her but still a deceitful liar, which makes her replaceable, which she was. I'm sure many of the members here have also been with women as pretty or more and replaced them if they were not good also.

I've been with myself many girls that were hot looking, but some weren't right in the head, liars, cheaters and just weren't the right fit, so I left and found another. The best thing any man can find is a loyal woman, and that again isn't replaceable.

28 is an okay age, for men in their 40's, with a few, very few, able to match a 50+ man in what the man needs. It's a whole different world going after girls when you're a middle aged man. You cannot relate besides the sex, which doesn't last like a real partner does. I'm thinking, as I mentioned a few times, that you've never been with an older, more mature woman.

I know you were married and she wasn't loyal, but that shouldn't have you looking at women as how you've described them. From what you've been saying all along, the looks mean a lot more than anything else, but you can have that with the loyalty also. Those young girls aren't women in maturity. Into their 30's they are, but 28 is close. There's a lot of difference between a 24 year old and a 28.

Lastly, again, why bother with this one, seeing you know what's out there? Everyone knows what she's doing with another man, so why be second fiddle? 90% of girls might not make your cut, but many of them might be real, and attractive enough.Your words....."Yes, she was untrustworthy, unkind and had many other flaws, but when you look at the whole package, she's one of those once in 10 years kind of girls." ............. Most men would see this as a dime a dozen. Once in 10 years is a lot different.

6 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Why is he a monster ... is poor Phuket girl being held against her will by a tyrannical Austrian overlord. Don't think so.

No, he just looks disgusting, obese, bloated round face, colours his hair with that fake blonde-brown mix boy-band characters had in the 90s. Of course now he broke his hand and foot he's hobbling around like a crippled beast.

He's just so unattractive.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, he just look disgusting, obese, bloated round face, colours his hair with that fake blonde-brown mix boy-band characters had in the 90s. Of course now he broke his hand and foot he's hobbling around like a crippled beast.

He's just so unattractive.

But you're not dating him. She is. And her thoughts mean more because she's the one with him.