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Plan for end of life

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23 minutes ago, pchansmorn said:

Made a will in Thailand with a family lawyer. Left everything to the wife and if we both should die then we leave everything to the Thai family and we both have signed DNRs. So we both will be cremated, the wife the Thai way, myself cremated and my ashes scattered in a clean body of water. We are using most of our savings enjoying life while we are still healthy. It’s so much cheaper to die in this country than in the US.

I've got the same thing. Wills are set up pretty much the same. If my wife dies before me, my wife leaves the land to her son, I have a Usufruct to remain on the land for life, and everything that isn't expressly "land" and real estate, i.e., chattel, goes to me. When I die, EVERYTHING goes to my Thai son. If my wife dies, for the most part he can have anything on the property which isn't expressly mine. My wife is a collector, I'm not. If she died tomorrow, I'd offer my son anything he wants, tag it so it can be store on the property, and everything else I'll either sell or simply give away. I am not a collector. I came to Thailand after selling pretty much everything I owed and showed up with a couple of backpacks and a computer. I like being - unencumbered by life's junk.

I made a draft of my DNR and my wife's, and had a Thai lawyer draw it up on his letterhead. DNR, no tubes, no respirators, just let me go when my body gives out. Unlike nihilists, and being a Buddhist, I firmly believe this is just "a body" and when it wears out, off to The Bardo we go. And if death is annihilation - fine with me. I'm always amazed at people who grasp on to life while living in a broken body. Let it go!

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29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Most of us won't go to Buddha.

Not even the most pious Buddhist isn't "going to Buddha". Siddhartha Gautama Buddha was a man. He's long dead and gone.

23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

About 2 years ago I met a 82yo guy in a Pattaya bookshop cafe from the UK , he was going to buy a condo

I asked him why ....he said to live in it....

Sounds right...👍

I'm only 76, but I have plans for 25 years ahead. We are luckily all different and have different expectations for life and longevity.

Making a last will is wise and don't need to have anything to do with age, Accidents and other unforseens event can happen. If you wisg to protect your family – or leave it all for the cats – it's wise to make a last will, even if you are young. Perhaps even wiser than when you are old and already had spend almost all of your savings on a fun life.

My father planted new trees when in his 90s, to see the trees grow up – and he did see them grow – probably a positive view on the future helps longevity, like buying a condo when 82 years old. With such a move you might have a great chance to live longer, as you wish to fully enjoy your condo-investment the next 20 years...😉

23 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Be a realist please ,once your over 80 life is shorter

"Shorter" is a relative expression. Today life can be in the level up to 25 more years for some, when you are only 80 years young – worth to keep in mind when meeting someone at 82, or thereabout, investing in the future...😊

1 hour ago, connda said:

you should have plans.

My plan is to be dead, and I don't care that much what happens after that event.

So no will.

On 2/13/2026 at 6:58 AM, Terrance8812 said:

Delightful. Another very positive topic from you about all the joys of life, health and aging. You are such a wealth of inspiring subjects.

Indeed! A happy cheerful topic to consider whilst strangling the family dog perhaps?

I acted for a family in relation to the estate of the deceased father- who died whilst on top of an escort (lady not car) in a bar at 2am - I always thought as a way to go that had a certain attraction

Death (at least on Planet Earth) is a certainty. The timing of death is about probability. The timing of any individual death is unknown to anyone in advance.

My best friend used to say: 'Noone knows when they're going to die'. He died by drowning 3 years ago at age 62.

Keeping yourself physically & mentally healthy is not hard to do. It's about exercise + what goes in to your mouth. Being - as I am - physically & mentally healthy at age 76 is not a guarantee but a reasonable indication of future expectations. I have carefully ensured I own nothing here in Thailand other than my personal things (basically clothes & an embarrassingly large print library which I can't take with me). The land & mansion are deliberately in my b/f's name only (age 36). So all I have to worry about is the - surprisingly complicated - process of leaving my Oz estate (just cash flow) to my b/f. All done & dusted but it won't be easy for him as, while his spoken English is OK, his written is - despite my efforts when we lived years ago for some 18 months in Canberra - practically nil. So he'll be relying on electronic translation plus my Oz power of attorney.

Then there's the question of his prior death (not impossible given his driving skills) ...

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

My plan is to be dead, and I don't care that much what happens after that event.

So no will.

Death is cool. No bills. No pests.

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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

My plan is to be dead, and I don't care that much what happens after that event.

So no will.

Very selfish

May I ask you kindly to plan ahead , surely that's not too much to ask

8 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

Why plan ? When I reach 89, I'll take all those fine ladies to party, and discard any use of condoms. 🤣. You are free when you have nothing to loose.

when you are 89 you won't get hard enough to put a condom on,

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On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

And constant YouTube videos of elderly men in South East Asia who have passed with no will or instructions because at 80 they were in denial

why do you make such rubbish up?

On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Sorry to break the news but if your 80 the probality of you making 90 is not high

its a damn sight higher than for those who died at 79

On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

About 2 years ago I met a 82yo guy in a Pattaya bookshop cafe from the UK

i guarantee you did not ,, its just more lies

On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

We ended up in a shouting match with me before kicking me out of his house

i'm genuinely interested and very surprised as to why he didn't disown you the day you became 18

There are no plans to be made for death and no practise is required.

Anybody with any money or assets, and an intended beneficiary , should make a will regardless of their age as they say , "you never know the moment" and not everybody is lucky enough to live long enough to die of cancer or other age related conditions

In the case of the OP . even if he has some money or assets I very much doubt he has anyone in mind to leave it to , I mean come on , it has to be said, ?

Maybe he will find a suitable beneficiary on his next trip to Pattaya? Personally I think he will struggle ,

On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

I often wonder why people older than 75 don't plan for end of life

Be a realist please ,once your over 80 life is shorter

Time and time again I have had to tell people over this age group to plan ....I remember back in 1998 telling my late father to get his Will in order and that being 78 at that time he probably wouldn't be here in 10 years ( I was right )

We ended up in a shouting match with me before kicking me out of his house

It never never ceases to amaze me all those in denial about their life expectancy

And constant YouTube videos of elderly men in South East Asia who have passed with no will or instructions because at 80 they were in denial

Sorry to break the news but if your 80 the probality of you making 90 is not high

Sorry to tell you but it's reality!!!

So please ...make plans now and stop being in denial,

About 2 years ago I met a 82yo guy in a Pattaya bookshop cafe from the UK , he was going to buy a condo

I asked him why ....he said to live in it....I said mate ...your life is ending

Surely you must know

I said ,don't even buy a yearly lottery ticket at your age !!

If I feel like buing a condo at age 82, I will, too. Bravo for the 82-year old you met! It's not over till it's over. I'm 74 and I'm right in the middle of building a new 5-bedroom pool villa on the Darkside, with my spouse. As with all our projects, it's been fun and challenging. I didn't give one thought to my age before starting the build. And, why would I?

I'm not sure why you always feel the need to be such a downer. Maybe try being a glass-half-full guy, I think your life outlook would improve. Of course, every adult should have a Will, and a fully-briefed Executor, whatever their age. As dear 'ol Dad used to say, 'We're only pencilled in.' But, I'm not going to shut down living, shut down doing new things, just because I've reached a certain age.

Dear 'ol Dad lived into his 95th year, Mom reached 101. Google tells me that if you reach 80 in the US, you're likely to live another 7 to 9+ years. So, maybe when you hit 80, you're life is NOT necessarily soon 'ending'.

At 84 I really don't need to be told the facts of life and death.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

My plan is to be dead, and I don't care that much what happens after that event.

So no will.

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Very selfish

May I ask you kindly to plan ahead , surely that's not too much to ask

Why is he being selfish? I imagine his estate can be settled among his family. I never got the vibe that BMT was a multi-millionaire with extensive investments and a sprawling estate. Anyway, there are enough instances of guys who ARE multi-millionaire with extensive investments and a sprawling estate who leave their entire estate to their paramour as the rest of the family freaks out with knives out. Or leaves their estate to their dogs and goldfish.

In my case I have a will to simply make probate easier on whoever survives me. I want to die and to be able to just - Let Go! But it's not really necessary if you don't have a lot and your family unit is pretty clearly defined. Thai probate laws will handle the situation if you don't have a will. I don't see BMT being selfish at all.

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1 hour ago, bunnydrops said:

High on my list is not answering any more questions on this forum.

There's certainly a lot of negative people on this forum that's for sure

3 hours ago, mfd101 said:

I have carefully ensured I own nothing here in Thailand other than my personal things (basically clothes & an embarrassingly large print library which I can't take with me). The land & mansion are deliberately in my b/f's name only (age 36).

The Thai legal system can make somethings very easy for us foreigners , putting land and property in a Thai partners name is just one example. lol

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Very selfish

May I ask you kindly to plan ahead , surely that's not too much to ask

Why, unless one has assets you wish to go to certain people. I own nothing worth giving to anyone. If reported, my death, all income will cease to exist, and or be deposited in my accounts (2). Material wise, I won't be missed, and there will be nothing to fight over, not that anyone can or would.

Wife already has control or access to everything. By law, or physically already. If anything in the bank, a death cert. with give her access to it.

A will is only necessary if you have assets worth fighting over.

4 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

At 84 I really don't need to be told the facts of life and death.

The day you stop learning is the day you die

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

There's certainly a lot of negative people on this forum that's for sure

Asia attracts bad foreigners

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19 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Asia attracts bad foreigners

All countries attract both good and bad foreigners and all those in between!

PS; Which category do you fit into?

9 hours ago, khunPer said:

Sounds right...👍

I'm only 76, but I have plans for 25 years ahead. We are luckily all different and have different expectations for life and longevity.

Making a last will is wise and don't need to have anything to do with age, Accidents and other unforseens event can happen. If you wisg to protect your family – or leave it all for the cats – it's wise to make a last will, even if you are young. Perhaps even wiser than when you are old and already had spend almost all of your savings on a fun life.

My father planted new trees when in his 90s, to see the trees grow up – and he did see them grow – probably a positive view on the future helps longevity, like buying a condo when 82 years old. With such a move you might have a great chance to live longer, as you wish to fully enjoy your condo-investment the next 20 years...😉

"Shorter" is a relative expression. Today life can be in the level up to 25 more years for some, when you are only 80 years young – worth to keep in mind when meeting someone at 82, or thereabout, investing in the future...😊

Only 76, 80 years young is delusional.

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On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

I often wonder why people older than 75 don't plan for end of life

Be a realist please ,once your over 80 life is shorter

Time and time again I have had to tell people over this age group to plan ....I remember back in 1998 telling my late father to get his Will in order and that being 78 at that time he probably wouldn't be here in 10 years ( I was right )

We ended up in a shouting match with me before kicking me out of his house

It never never ceases to amaze me all those in denial about their life expectancy

And constant YouTube videos of elderly men in South East Asia who have passed with no will or instructions because at 80 they were in denial

Sorry to break the news but if your 80 the probality of you making 90 is not high

Sorry to tell you but it's reality!!!

So please ...make plans now and stop being in denial,

About 2 years ago I met a 82yo guy in a Pattaya bookshop cafe from the UK , he was going to buy a condo

I asked him why ....he said to live in it....I said mate ...your life is ending

Surely you must know

I said ,don't even buy a yearly lottery ticket at your age !!

MYOB

On 2/13/2026 at 4:58 PM, Terrance8812 said:

Delightful. Another very positive topic from you about all the joys of life, health and aging. You are such a wealth of inspiring subjects.

I have never encounted such a negative bloke as GG He needs to get out more and walk in the fresh air and meet some people . I have a plan for dying...when all the ducks line up I will stop breathing that oughta do it.

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13 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

I have never encounted such a negative bloke as GG He needs to get out more and walk in the fresh air and meet some people .

Agreed. But whenever he does that he gets slapped in the head by monkeys, and almost assaulted by people sitting on park benches. And the police do nothing to help, they won't even arrest the monkeys when GG demands that they do so.

I am 80, and I have a plan for the end of my life.

  • I have a will that has all my bank and online accounts and passwords.

  • I have a close friend who lives near me who has agreed to be the executor of the will.

  • In my will, I state that I do not want my body cremated or embalmed. I want to be buried in a biodegradable sack, called a "body pod," and a tree planted on top of me.

Body Pod.png

13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I am 80, and I have a plan for the end of my life.

  • I have a will that has all my bank and online accounts and passwords.

  • I have a close friend who lives near me who has agreed to be the executor of the will.

  • In my will, I state that I do not want my body cremated or embalmed. I want to be buried in a biodegradable sack, called a "body pod," and a tree planted on top of me.

Body Pod.png

Cue the Soi dogs.🙃🙃

At minimum people should place a page alongside their will indicating where all financial accounts are held, including digital accounts.

For UK elders approaching 75 years of age, be sure you've extracted the tax-free cash element from your personal pension before your 75th birthday, otherwise beneficiaries lose the benefit.

On 2/13/2026 at 1:52 PM, georgegeorgia said:

I often wonder why people older than 75 don't plan for end of life

Be a realist please ,once your over 80 life is shorter

Time and time again I have had to tell people over this age group to plan ....I remember back in 1998 telling my late father to get his Will in order and that being 78 at that time he probably wouldn't be here in 10 years ( I was right )

We ended up in a shouting match with me before kicking me out of his house

It never never ceases to amaze me all those in denial about their life expectancy

And constant YouTube videos of elderly men in South East Asia who have passed with no will or instructions because at 80 they were in denial

Sorry to break the news but if your 80 the probality of you making 90 is not high

Sorry to tell you but it's reality!!!

So please ...make plans now and stop being in denial,

About 2 years ago I met a 82yo guy in a Pattaya bookshop cafe from the UK , he was going to buy a condo

I asked him why ....he said to live in it....I said mate ...your life is ending

Surely you must know

I said ,don't even buy a yearly lottery ticket at your age !!

Are you talking about how we will leave our money and assets to our kids etc or are you talking about health and the payment for health care if we become very sick in our 80's?

On 2/13/2026 at 8:55 AM, Terrance8812 said:

Ridiculous. I spend my time thinking about how I can live better. Worrying about dying is for people who lock themselves in a closet with a bunch of mops and don't know how to live. I know people in their 90s who never think or talk about dying. Maybe that's why they have lived so long already.

So nice to hear. A man with a positive outlook.

I assume you don't have a family in your home country and a "secondary" family in Thailand, eventually dying without a written "last will".

In such cases, intercontinal battles between the 2 families will take place and costing a lot of money. If that's the case, make a will.

If the above is not applicable in your case, forget this comment.

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