Three Israelis seriously injured after fall at Flight of the Gibbon Chiang Mai

[mcfish]

Nah, guess i'm just a glass half full type of guy. Rather than half empty. Ya know, try and live life to the full, wake up each morning with a smile on my face, life can be fun, positivity, rather than negativity, non health and safety nazi, etc etc...

So you wake up and prepare every day that you might jump off a mountain in a wing suit.. Being a positive guy and all LMAO

Most likely your prepared to jump in to a bar where you can tell your fearless activities to a bored to death audience [emoji23]

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[paulbj2]

4 hours ago, mcfish said:

It afraid statistics don't support you. You can drive as safely as you like until that minibus driver forces you into a ditch...

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If you really look at the stats, most of the killed and injured are riding two wheeled vehicles not driving cars.

[mcfish]

If you really look at the stats, most of the killed and injured are riding two wheeled vehicles not driving cars.

My observations show many drivers are close to insane. I would like to see the statistics you have on hand

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[Guitar God]

There's a precedent dating back to 1939 for flying monkeys being dangerous. 

[NickJ]

Gibbons might do better as they don't collide in mid air.

Lazy staff.

[Johpa]

I've done the Flight of the Gibbon and I cannot see how anyone could possibly collide with anyone else on this zipline run; it doesn't make sense! Only one single rig is ever on the wire at any given moment and the traffic is entirely one way only, so how...
 

If a rider does not stabilize, or arrive, on the destination platform then they will go backwards towards the center of the cable. This is what happened at the Flying Squirrel last year when the Chinese rider failed to put their feet down onto the platform and ended going backwards towards towards the cable center point and ended up colliding with the other rider who had been launched. That is why it is so critical for the guide on the launch platform to receive an all clear signal from the guide on the arrival platform before sending the next rider down the line.



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[David B in Thailand]

I took my family to Flight of the Gibbon when we had a holiday in Chiang Mai in 2015. The entire operation seemed professional with an emphasis on safety. My personal experience was that the staff were versed on a safe operation. At no point did we feel in danger. We were not trying to challenge any safety instructions. I highly recommend this zip line tour and look forward to another visit. 

[Italian guy]

14 hours ago, sweatalot said:

Obviously they don't learn.

Time to end it all

- or give it completely in skilled foreign hands - no Thais allowed anymore in dangerous business

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2016/oct/25/dreamworld-four-people-critically-injured-at-australian-theme-park-live-updates

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/5198728.stm

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20080718155249/http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/15/sweden.accident.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

 

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/flamingo-land-probe-after-two-9320361

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/06/26/scottish-roller-coaster-derails-65-feet-above-ground-injuring-11.html

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, David B in Thailand said:

I took my family to Flight of the Gibbon when we had a holiday in Chiang Mai in 2015. The entire operation seemed professional with an emphasis on safety. My personal experience was that the staff were versed on a safe operation. At no point did we feel in danger. We were not trying to challenge any safety instructions. I highly recommend this zip line tour and look forward to another visit. 

Great, but something went really wrong in this incident. I think it's wise to shut it down until they can figure out what it was, and then work to prevent the same kind of tragic accident to ever happen again. 

[Stargeezr]

 I  do not  zip line, or  sky dive, or otherwise jump  from  a perfectly good  aircraft

or  jet.  I have  not  scuba  dived, and rode  a camel.  What  I have done  though  is

go to Thailand, Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico,  lots of  places In USA  and

Canada, oh  and China  to  Beijing and Shanghai, and the south part  of that  country

as well as  Hong Kong, Japan, to Tokyo,  Osaka, Hanada, and Taiwan, and have

enjoyed sight seeing, swimming, looking at  ruins, and  interesting towns, villages

and cities. I do also  like  to snorkel,  Take  pictures,  except  selfies,  and  drink  the

local  beers  to taste  all  the  different  flavors. When I was  in Honduras there  were

two people killed  when  their  rigs  failed, one lived to drown in the  river  below

the  zip line area.  In Phuket one man died  when  the  zip line  failed,  and  the

company closed  shortly  after that.  I started  thinking that  both  zip lines  and

even  bungee jumps  were  not  for  me.  My life  may  be  boring,  but  I am still

alive  and  even have most of my teeth.  I feel lucky!

Geezer,

[jacko45k]

Is this the same place that was in the news a while back  after an injury to a Chinese Tourist?

At that time were they not double hitching?

 

Thank heavens I am too old and in fear of injury for such risky thrill seeking, this is not the country for it.

[gk10002000]

12 hours ago, Johpa said:

 

 

If a rider does not stabilize, or arrive, on the destination platform then they will go backwards towards the center of the cable. This is what happened at the Flying Squirrel last year when the Chinese rider failed to put their feet down onto the platform and ended going backwards towards towards the cable center point and ended up colliding with the other rider who had been launched. That is why it is so critical for the guide on the launch platform to receive an all clear signal from the guide on the arrival platform before sending the next rider down the line.



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Agreed.  Still hard to understand how to fall even if one collided.  Just pucker up and take the hit.  It seems obvious  they had more than one rider on the line and depending on how close they got to each other, the line sags, either or neither of the riders keeps enough speed to make it to the exit platform, they hit etc.  But I suspect the collision occurred near or at the exit platform while somebody was unbuckling then they fell. 

[gk10002000]

16 hours ago, Johpa said:

 

 

Crickey! Some convoluted logic there.

I am not a shareholder. I do not assume that Thais are either superior nor inferior to other people. I do know that the Thai zip line operators strive towards a safe operation no less than anywhere else. My close friends who run a zip line here are committed to safety.

As for what happened, my first, yet unconfirmed reports, are an operator error. The report is that an adult and child were released in tandem and then a third adult was released before the tandem pair were secured, or perhaps even arrived at the destination platform. The two groups collided which is suggested by the internal injuries suffered by the adults. No injuries suggest they fell from the zip line itself, such as injured limbs. Visibility, or lack there of, may have been a factor as it has been foggy and misty up in the hills the past few days. But that is no excuse for launching someone before getting a clear signal. The incident did happen at Flight of the Gibbon and not in Mae Rim, but some Thai news sources used stock footage from a zip line in Mae Rim which may have led to some confusion.

 

The article did say there was a fall.  I don't think the zip line speed is fast enough to do serious injury if the people only collided while on the line. 

[Johpa]

The article did say there was a fall.  I don't think the zip line speed is fast enough to do serious injury if the people only collided while on the line. 

I don' t know why the first set of tandem riders did not reach or stabilize on the arrival platform. Perhaps the premature launch of the next rider altered the cable dynamics. But in last year's accident both riders met near the middle, moving in opposite directions, giving a significant combined max speed relative to impact. Hit a brick wall at 10 mph (16 kph) and you are going to be injured. My initial report indicated that this incident involved a mid- point collision and the injuries tend to confirm this.

Again, I have not been able to confirm a fall or any equipment failure, nor do I have hard confirmation on the story I heard from one informed source. The Thai press reports also initially, and erroneously, included a fall during last year's incident as well.

[thaiguzzi]

18 hours ago, mcfish said:

So you wake up and prepare every day that you might jump off a mountain in a wing suit.. Being a positive guy and all LMAO

Most likely your prepared to jump in to a bar where you can tell your fearless activities to a bored to death audience

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"Most likely"...

Yeah, whatever...

[webfact]

Zipline company may operate in prohibited forest zone

 

 

CHIANG MAI: -- The Forest Department has been asked by Mae On district chief officer to investigate whether a zipline operator in Ban Mae Kampong is operating in 1A watershed area which is prohibited.

 

Ms Pattharaporn Laijood, Mae On district chief officer, told reporters on Monday that she suspected the zipline operator, Night of the Gibbons, might be operating in the prohibited zone even though it claimed that legally rented the land from four locals who have So Kor 1 land right.

 

The call for the investigation by forest officials followed an accident last Friday when three Israeli tourists suffered injuries in an accident while riding zipline.

 

Despite the accident, the zipline operations continue as usual.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/zipline-company-may-operate-prohibited-forest-zone/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-20

[davehowden]

How many people does it take to "change a light bulb" ??

[Johpa]

Zipline company may operate in prohibited forest zone
 

 

Great image of uniformed Thai bureaucrats busy taking random pictures trying to look busy.


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[ChrisY1]

It's so blatantly clear that local authorities actually don't have any idea what's going on in their precincts...everywhere!

Edited December 20, 2016 by ChrisY1

[davehowden]

10 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

It's so blatantly clear that local authorities actually don't have any idea what's going on in their precincts...everywhere!

 

Well maybe they know but "Brown Envelopes" and all that?

[alant]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Zipline company may operate in prohibited forest zone

 

 

CHIANG MAI: -- The Forest Department has been asked by Mae On district chief officer to investigate whether a zipline operator in Ban Mae Kampong is operating in 1A watershed area which is prohibited.

 

Ms Pattharaporn Laijood, Mae On district chief officer, told reporters on Monday that she suspected the zipline operator, Night of the Gibbons, might be operating in the prohibited zone even though it claimed that legally rented the land from four locals who have So Kor 1 land right.

 

The call for the investigation by forest officials followed an accident last Friday when three Israeli tourists suffered injuries in an accident while riding zipline.

 

Despite the accident, the zipline operations continue as usual.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/zipline-company-may-operate-prohibited-forest-zone/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-20

"Night of the Gibbons" not been to that one

[Johpa]

It's so blatantly clear that local authorities actually don't have any idea what's going on in their precincts...everywhere!

Au contraire, they know exactly what is going on. Sometimes to save face they must feign ignorance. They may bark, but they won't bite the hand that feeds them.


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[bark]

On 17/12/2559 at 9:20 PM, Gweiloman said:

 

Have you tried this particular activity? If not, you don't know what you are talking about. I did it last year with my two daughters and I was impressed at how seriously they took the safety measures. 

 

I can't imagine how two people can collide on the zip lines as there aren't any parts where they would cross each other (everything goes in one direction only). Also, one can't commence one's ride till the other rider is already safely on the platform and disengaged from the zip line

 

There aren't enough details to speculate on what actually happened.

Agreed. I also did it. Great fun, and safe. need full details of what went wrong.

[TooPoopedToPop]

On ‎12‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 9:20 PM, Gweiloman said:

 

Have you tried this particular activity? If not, you don't know what you are talking about. I did it last year with my two daughters and I was impressed at how seriously they took the safety measures. 

 

I can't imagine how two people can collide on the zip lines as there aren't any parts where they would cross each other (everything goes in one direction only). Also, one can't commence one's ride till the other rider is already safely on the platform and disengaged from the zip line

 

There aren't enough details to speculate on what actually happened.

 

2 hours ago, bark said:

Agreed. I also did it. Great fun, and safe. need full details of what went wrong.

But don't let those facts get in the way when we can get our rocks off in an orgy of Thai bashing.

There's no telling what the Israelis might have done.

As you say, need full details of what went wrong.

[bark]

4 minutes ago, TooPoopedToPop said:

 

But don't let those facts get in the way when we can get our rocks off in an orgy of Thai bashing.

There's no telling what the Israelis might have done.

As you say, need full details of what went wrong.

What are you talking about. Get your rocks off, with another OP.

Not Me.

[elgordo38]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Despite the accident, the zipline operations continue as usual.

Paying customers or pay customers to use. No thanks. I would guess that as long as your keeping customers feet off the ground there is no violation of land laws. 

[KKr]

If I am not mistaken, Sor Kor 1 land  has an agricultural zoning. 
Since Zip-lines are offering the aerial view of the agricultural zone, they are definitely  agro-tourism.
So what's the problem with the land use?

Earlier I read that people were swinging into each other on the ride, has that theory been invalidated?

[Jingthing]

Any update on the medical condition of Ms. Rov who was in intensive care? Often travelers aren't prepared for such situations with insurance, etc. Is she OK? Is the park helping with the bills? We always seem to get these news stories and very rarely get any meaningful FOLLOW UP. 

[Beats56]

When I fist came here and was working in MAP Ta Putt my family came over and my children went to Fight of the Gibbons with a buch of fellow workers on their day off. I had to work that day. They had a great time and really enjoyed it.

But after read some of the accidents resently I would have second thoughts to partake in that activity.

 

[balo]

Accidents happens all over the world , no need to bash Thailand , I am more worried about the traffic. I would never jump in a parachute and I would never do this .  I am not that kind of risk person , but if you are , you can do it in Thailand safely .