webfact Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Two tourists killed after sedan crashes into their bike By The Nation Two Taiwanese tourists in their 20s were killed after a sedan lost control on a slippery road following rains and crashed into the rear of their motorcycle in Lampang province on Saturday evening. The fatal crash took place on a downhill curve on Lampang-Chiang Mai Road near the Thai Elephant Conservation Centre in Tambon Wiang Tan, Hang Chat district, at 6pm. The female Taiwanese died instantly while the male tourist, who was seriously injured, was pronounced dead at Hang Chat Hospital. The driver of the sedan with the licence plate “Kor Jor 7593 Khamphaeng Phetch” was apprehended and taken to the Hang Chat precinct to face legal action. Police investigation confirmed that the two tourists were riding the motorcycle to Lampang when the sedan crashed into their bike’s rear. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30347377 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-06-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Get Real Posted June 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2018 What are they going to do with the driver? Are they going to use his testimoney to charge the Land and Transport Ministry for premeditated murder? That due to that they over and over again issue license to drive to people without knowledge or education. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted June 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2018 It amazes me how the "sedan lost control" !! No, the driver lost control of the sedan... It wasn't because of slippery roads, it was because of poor driving skills, again !! 30 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YetAnother Posted June 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: Two Taiwanese tourists in their 20s were killed after a sedan lost control on a slippery road following rains and crashed into the rear of their motorcycle seems no matter how bad we think the roads are here in thailand, they are worse 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Poor tourists. Let's hope this gets good coverage in Taiwan. From the damage, that car must have rolled over... speed, inability to drive and, I am just guessing, phone. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Juan B Tong Posted June 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2018 RIP Please dear reader don't ride your motorbike. If you do, drive as if every other driver is out to kill you. It's worse than a war zone. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted June 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: It amazes me how the "sedan lost control" !! No, the driver lost control of the sedan... It wasn't because of slippery roads, it was because of poor driving skills, again !! And knowing that section of road - excessive speed and aggressive driving coupled with the fact that motorcycles are lower-class and don't have the status of cars so therefore they are invisible, and if a speeding, aggressively driven car should happen hit one, it's obviously the low-class persons fault for daring to drive on the same road. I'd estimate that 70% of the vehicles traveling over those mountains are driving excessively fast and not even attempting to maintain their own lane. They'll weave from the outside lane all the way to the shoulder and back again while navigating the curves. It's insanity and it's endemic to the way Thais drive, because unless they get in an accident and kill someone, there is absolutely no downside. Is a Thai Highway Patrolman going to pull them over for speeding, negligent and aggressive driving, and failure to maintain a lane? No! Because there are no Thai Highway Patrolmen issuing citations on Thai roads. They don't exist! And the slaughter continues unabated! Edited June 11, 2018 by connda 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart1916 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: It amazes me how the "sedan lost control" !! No, the driver lost control of the sedan... It wasn't because of slippery roads, it was because of poor driving skills, again !! Well said, as usual. That particular stretch of road is dangerous enough, before we add in the typical driving behaviour prevalent here. Seems no amount of steep slopes, twisting, under maintained roads, and rain will slow anybody down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 That's a very nasty stretch of road not helped by the rain. We don't know the full story: motorbike moved across the lane to turn or skidded or lost control, or the car was speeding and driving without paying attention to the road in front. All irrelevant now, RIP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetJunkie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: It wasn't because of slippery roads, it was because of poor driving skills, again !! Watch this video of people with poor driving skills in the wet - big crash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted June 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, NetJunkie said: Watch this video of people with poor driving skills in the wet - big crash. Which one was the Thai ?? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetJunkie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, cornishcarlos said: Which one was the Thai ?? You said it was not because of a wet road, just poor driving skills. Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 hours ago, webfact said: Two tourists killed after sedan crashes into their bike Charge the sedan s driver 500 baht. Move on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, NetJunkie said: Watch this video of people with poor driving skills in the wet - big crash. Wish I could watch but all I have is a 6" x 4" black square . 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: It amazes me how the "sedan lost control" !! No, the driver lost control of the sedan... It wasn't because of slippery roads, it was because of poor driving skills, again !! Unless it's a Tesla in selfdrive mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, NetJunkie said: You said it was not because of a wet road, just poor driving skills. Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash. Pretty sure speed was also a factor in the video after all they were racing. If you’re not racing then it would be normal or sensible to slow down in the wet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Get Real said: That due to that they over and over again issue license to drive to people without knowledge or education. Driving education will not change “careless” people nor those who don’t think of “consequences”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2018 More than likely the poor driving skills, the lack of concentration, and the possibility he or she was either texting, or talking on the phone, while driving on a steep, wet, mountain road was the cause of the crash. Not the car. The driver. For most of us, maintaining control of a car on a steep mountain road in the rain is not a problem. Most of us have done it countless times without an issue. But, we drive with care, pay attention, and try not to do anything terrible foolish, that results in the deaths of innocent civilians. Lock him or her up. For a very long time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, NetJunkie said: You said it was not because of a wet road, just poor driving skills. Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash. no it doesnt, it shows that the driver that caused it wasnt in control of his car and did not allow for the circumstances which caused a multiple collision, in other words he tried to do something beyond his skills in those conditions. These people are driving for money so they push beyond the limits to try to win on an enclosed track, on a public road drivers need to drive within their ability which in Thailand is p*ss poor and the fact they never think of other road users. Add to this the fact that they still drive too fast in wet conditions and do not concentrate on what they are doing as can be seen every day of the week, the driver rear ended the bike so was obviously going to fast in the conditions and was unable to control the car due to their speed, not the rain or road, the driver was totally at fault Edited June 11, 2018 by seajae 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualSportBiker Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, NetJunkie said: You said it was not because of a wet road, just poor driving skills. Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash. Nice one! Totally comparable situations... Dozens of cars on a dedicated track at the start of a race when they are feet from each other is the comparable to drivers on a public road. Try again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr4 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Juan B Tong said: RIP Please dear reader don't ride your motorbike. If you do, drive as if every other driver is out to kill you. It's worse than a war zone. You right. And especially in rainy season it is dangerous. I feel safer on the road to Pai then on tjat wide road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: It amazes me how the "sedan lost control" !! No, the driver lost control of the sedan... It wasn't because of slippery roads, it was because of poor driving skills, again !! Wake up cornishcarlos it is time for your re-education and this time do not go to sleep in class. In Thailand no one drives a car, truck or bus, they vehicles drive themselves and they have brake failures and lose control on slippery roads, but maybe if people drove the vehicles that they have been properly trained to drive then maybe they could take control of these self driven vehicles. Lesson finished so you can now get in your self driven car and go home. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, toofarnorth said: Wish I could watch but all I have is a 6" x 4" black square . That is awfully small, even for a black square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, NetJunkie said: You said it was not because of a wet road, just poor driving skills. Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash. Wet road was a factor, but you would never be able to use that as an excuse outside Thailand. Main factor was probably lack of skill, excess speed and poor observation by Thai driver. Taiwanese are generally skilled at riding bikes, but used to driving on other side of road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Get Real said: What are they going to do with the driver? Are they going to use his testimoney to charge the Land and Transport Ministry for premeditated murder? That due to that they over and over again issue license to drive to people without knowledge or education. ..methinks one demerit point for this tragedy..RIP the Taiwanese couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 hours ago, NetJunkie said: You said it was not because of a wet road, just poor driving skills. Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash. The wet road cannot be blamed. It is the driver's responsibility to adjust the speed to the weather and road conditions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 It's a good job it does not snow or have black ice on the roads here,they have difficulty with a bit rain. RIP Taiwanese tourists,unfortunatly wrong place and time. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 12 hours ago, Get Real said: What are they going to do with the driver? Are they going to use his testimoney to charge the Land and Transport Ministry for premeditated murder? That due to that they over and over again issue license to drive to people without knowledge or education. Kidding. You can kill several people with a vehicle on the roads here and get a 10,000 baht fine and spend no time in prison. However you can go to prison for a bag of pot. Go figure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyawm Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 ...when the sedan crashed into their bike’s rear... Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots on the roads in Thailand. I constantly come across similar cases. Very often I go by motorcycle or car at a speed of 80-100 kilometers per hour, and on a completely empty road behind the other car is attached and rides behind me at a distance from my vehicle less than one meter. Absolutely empty road. If you want to overtake me - overtake. If you do not want to overtake - keep the distance, idiot. Almost always, this is a songthaew, or tourist minibuses, or trucks. Such idiots need to be deprived of their driving licenses for life and imprisoned for several years if they maim or kill people on the roads. I hope this idiot is sent to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyawm Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 9 hours ago, NetJunkie said: Just showing you that actually the wet road was a major factor in the crash major factor in the crash - the lack of brains in the driver, who had to understand the weather conditions. if you do not know how to drive on wet roads - sit at home and watch soap operas on TV your video clips are also inappropriate. public roads are not a place for racing, and on public roads people do not fight for first place ignoring road conditions. it's strange that you do not understand this. Are you Thai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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