March 11, 20197 yr Okay so here goes this one! I see it all over the place in Thailand every racer guy has no mirrors on their bike. If it is a sportbike no mirrors! If it is a honda wave with skinny wheels no mirrors! I think if you trick out your ride that is fine but to not be able to see because you have no mirrors is just bad!
March 11, 20197 yr Popular Post "Racing" is a bit different than driving on "the roads of Thailand". Personally, I like the mirror arms extended and the mirror size doubled. But then I'm not cool. I prefer safety and vision. Screw the "cool".
March 11, 20197 yr You cross the safety Rubicon when you throw your leg over the seat of a 2 wheeler. Helmets, mirrors, and all the other paraphernalia are just window dressing. I liken it to wearing a condom to go out and do crack whores. Sure, they make it marginally safer. But not safe. Edit: And, I'd argue, if they make you FEEL safe, they're actually just a siren song, luring you in.
March 11, 20197 yr My bike days have felt pretty safe (so far). Can't really comment on the "crack whore" 'cause I've never done one (or had the urge).
March 11, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, neeray said: My bike days have felt pretty safe (so far). Can't really comment on the "crack whore" 'cause I've never done one (or had the urge). Everyone's day seems safe. Right up until the tragedy.
March 11, 20197 yr pretty is as pretty does, with no mirrors i wont know if its safe to change lane. ergo safety has to be far down the priority list for whomever gets himself a worse view
March 11, 20197 yr Popular Post 7 minutes ago, brokenbone said: pretty is as pretty does, with no mirrors i wont know if its safe to change lane. ergo safety has to be far down the priority list for whomever gets himself a worse view When I was younger ...much younger ... I never needed mirrors ..no one ever passed me ...
March 11, 20197 yr Popular Post 52 minutes ago, impulse said: You cross the safety Rubicon when you throw your leg over the seat of a 2 wheeler. Helmets, mirrors, and all the other paraphernalia are just window dressing. I liken it to wearing a condom to go out and do crack whores. Sure, they make it marginally safer. But not safe. Edit: And, I'd argue, if they make you FEEL safe, they're actually just a siren song, luring you in. think you posted in the wrong Forum - this is for motorcycle enthusiasts - not nay sayers
March 12, 20197 yr Mirrors or not...motorcyclist have the propensity to move in and out of traffic as if they are the only ones on the road...several near misses have conditioned me to expect the unexpected...
March 12, 20197 yr Popular Post On normal commuter bikes the mirrors are removed or folded inward to help clearance between cars. For the 'Dec wen' racers I think the theory is that if you're the fastest thing on road, nothing is going to come at you from behind. ???? I use my mirrors a lot, and I've learned the 'hip wobble' to thread the bike through car mirrors. All those hours spent watching exotic dancers were not wasted!
March 12, 20197 yr Popular Post 5 hours ago, flyingsaucersarereal said: I think if you trick out your ride that is fine but to not be able to see because you have no mirrors is just bad! "to not be able to see BEHIND you"......... There. Fixed it for you. Me personally, most of my bikes in my early days and a lot of custom/classic bikes i built did not have mirrors. Back in the day there were no attractive mirrors. We also binned the indicators. Still do if legally allowed. My 79 Triumph has no indicators and only a small 3" R/H mirror. Most people on here have not ridden using hand signals or when needing to change lanes or keep an eye on stuff happening around and behind you, moving your head round. To this day, none of my road bikes have a L/H mirror. Less is more. Been riding motorcycles since 76 on the road. Here's a bike we built in the mid 90's, money no object, in fact it was the most expensive Brit bike we ever built, at the time around 17k GBP..... No mirrors. No indicators.
March 12, 20197 yr Most riders, or drivers for that matter, have their mirrors badly adjusted so as a safety aid they are mostly useless. Q. Look behind? There is a bike. Look again the bike is not there. Where is he? A. In your blind spot.
March 12, 20197 yr Popular Post Guys when I was coming up got stopped for no mirror ... Went and bought a dentist's mirror
March 12, 20197 yr Darwin in action: those body parts not being used tend to disappear.This morning I was looking to the mirror in the motorbike in front of me, to be sure she did see me; then she actually looked at the her properly set mirror! Was awesome! I had to double check she's Thai people.
March 12, 20197 yr 7 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: most expensive Brit bike we ever built, at the time around 17k GBP..... You could have bought a decent and new Japanese bike with all that money. It would have mirrors from the factory - but you could have removed them. ????
March 12, 20197 yr I thought about opening a similar thread. What are the (Thai) rules for riding without mirrors? It seems lots of Thais can live without them and they don't have constantly accidents. Personally I also look all the time in the mirrors and would be uncomfortable if I wouldn't have them. If I change the lane I look first in the mirror, that's the way to do it, correct? But how do all these "no mirror riders" ride without them? I think someone told me once: You react according to what is in front of you and ignore what is behind you. And the people behind you have to react to whatever you are doing. Is that the way it works?
March 12, 20197 yr Any self-respecting Thai hoon knows that mirrors are only for girly scooters. If you ride the fastest bike in town, there is zero need to know what is behind you. The only time Somchai might check his mirrors is when he is squeezing a zit on his face whist parked outside the local 7-11 store.
March 12, 20197 yr Popular Post 7 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Most riders, or drivers for that matter, have their mirrors badly adjusted so as a safety aid they are mostly useless. Q. Look behind? There is a bike. Look again the bike is not there. Where is he? A. In your blind spot. Badly adjusted is an understatement, some female riders have one mirror pointed at their face. I try and get in the mirror of a bike in front of me before I pass but driving etiquette in Thailand is baffling. I wouldn’t be without mirrors on my daily bike but gold wheel family members have stripped them off their scoots as uncool items. Like Thaiguzzi all my bikes have been custom non mirrored bikes but ridden in the U.K. Safer riding environment. Pic of my 1970 custom Triumph.
March 12, 20197 yr 10 minutes ago, twocatsmac said: Badly adjusted is an understatement, some female riders have one mirror pointed at their face. I try and get in the mirror of a bike in front of me before I pass but driving etiquette in Thailand is baffling. I wouldn’t be without mirrors on my daily bike but gold wheel family members have stripped them off their scoots as uncool items. Like Thaiguzzi all my bikes have been custom non mirrored bikes but ridden in the U.K. Safer riding environment. Pic of my 1970 custom Triumph. A custom made parking spot for your bike in your snooker room - amazing!
March 12, 20197 yr 14 hours ago, flyingsaucersarereal said: Yeah I want to be able to see what the heck is going on around me! You can get one those tech 180% look around m/c helmet that see all around.
March 12, 20197 yr 10 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: Been riding motorcycles since 76 on the road. So you are still such a young guy riding m/c's I get told I'm too old but I spare the punches now and smile. ????
March 12, 20197 yr 9 hours ago, aremesal said: Darwin in action: those body parts not being used tend to disappear. This morning I was looking to the mirror in the motorbike in front of me, to be sure she did see me; then she actually looked at the her properly set mirror! Was awesome! I had to double check she's Thai people. My nephew, a trained, licensed HD shop and highly experienced rider, tells me that his "safe" habit is to establish eye contact with those around you. I try to adopt this habit.
March 12, 20197 yr Popular Post Just now, neeray said: My nephew, a trained, licensed HD shop and highly experienced rider, tells me that his "safe" habit is to establish eye contact with those around you. I try to adopt this habit. Your nephew is correct, however it is extremely difficult to achieve here in Thailand. Blacked out glass is the norm.
March 12, 20197 yr bugger all thias use their mirrors anyway, they just change lanes as they please with no indicator so why bother having them on their bikes, they lack the brain cells to realize why they are supposed to be there
March 12, 20197 yr 7 hours ago, seajae said: bugger all thias use their mirrors anyway, they just change lanes as they please with no indicator so why bother having them on their bikes, they lack the brain cells to realize why they are supposed to be there I guess that answers the question. Real guys don't use makeup. So what's the point of all those vanity mirrors? Remove them!
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