New dual track train line to slash travel time between Bangkok, Hua Hin and southern Thailand

[johnarth]

will give the Muslims a new toy down south though then the army would have to do something about them

[Mavideol]

17 hours ago, shady86 said:

18 hours ago, Matzzon said:

It´s about 190 km to Hua Hin from Bangkok with car. Train will go more straight, which will mean about 1 hour and 15 minutes at a speed of 160 km/h.

As I said in the comment above. Can´t believe anything. Mr. Worawut needs a calculator.

It won't be 160kmh the whole journey. There will be stops im between so 2 hrs+ sounds fine.

so not a big difference with the current one.... waste of money

[boonrawdcnx]

I hope they took into consideration that Bangkok will be under water by 2051 !?


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[Jiggo]

15 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

And how many Thais will be able to afford this?

They said that about the BTS in BKK when it opened...

[Mavideol]

the majority of countries around the world are moving into fast track train lines, high speed trains as an alternative to the planes...in Thailand they don't look for innovation and don't see the future...

[Traubert]

2 hours ago, fred110 said:

Build a train from Suvarnabhum to Pattaya.

There was an announcement a couple of weeks ago.

 

Don Mueang-Suvarnabhumi-U-Tapao High Speed Train.

 

That got a shower of derision too on TVF. Everything does.

[ujayujay]

16 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

Not sure I would trust being whisked at 160 mile an hour ANYWHERE in Thailand.

 

Whatever next a Nuclear Power Plant ???

What Mile???

[Chazar]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

can be in Hua Hin in just two or three hours,

Do it in the car faster than that at  night.

[wpcoe]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that foreign tourists account for a whopping 90 percent of passengers travelling by train between Bangkok and Chumphon.

I moved from Hua Hin a few years ago, but when I lived there, every couple months I would take the 400pm train to Bangkok (the same one as @NCC1701A ?) which came from Surat Thani via Chumphon and I don't think I ever saw more than a dozen farang (or Chinese/Indian/etc) passengers on the two-car train.

 

Where do they get such statistics as 90% of the passengers are foreign tourists?

[stanleycoin]

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Complete fabrication, 90% of those passengers are Thais, I live in Nakhon Pathom and frequently go to Hua Hin, most travelers are always Thais

 

51 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

Indeed and I wonder where they will throw their litter if they can't open the windows?

This is the funniest post of the week,  so far.  

[ujayujay]

15 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

And how many Thais will be able to afford this? Second many foreigners will just fly cheaper and faster. This will be the biggest boondoggle in Thailand's history.

Both wrong. Train has cheaper fares, over all not slower than flights and the demand for Train connections are biger than ever by shorter traveltime.

[Surasak]

13 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Another perfect TVF thread.  In other threads about high speed rail plans (250km/h) people moan that that's stupid for Thailand, no need, brown envelopes, waste of money, Thailand should just concentrate on dual track upgrades and normal speed decent trains.

Here's a thread about the progress of the dual track project that will run "normal speed" decent trains between major tourist destinations and a key southerly route.........and the TVF residents complain and moan about it.  Wouldn't trust it, calculations are wrong, not fast enough, what about Somchais in pickups etc etc.

Is it so hard for some of you to actually come out and give credit, ever?

Credit will only be offered to people over 90 when accompanied by both parents

[poohy]

"I look forward to being able to do day trips south to PKK. "

 

We are waiting with baited breath oh and also for the border to open(thats been going on since 2004)

 

[spidermike007]

This is a huge development. This will benefit Thailand in countless ways, and help it to move into the 21st century, on par with many other nations. Slovakia has a high speed train. This is progress, something we are not accustomed to seeing in Thailand. Currently, there is no high speed method to get from Bangkok to Hua Hin. Unless you leave Bangkok at 5am by car. The lame airport in HH, does not serve anything. Nobody knows why. After millions were spent improving the airport, it lays dormant. It is a profound mystery. With traffic, it can take five hours to get from BKK to HH. Same goes for Prachuap. At least Chumporn has an airport, but who wants to go to Chumporn? 

 

The real solution is to build more cargo capacity on the rails, to get rid of truck congestion on the highways. Perhaps that is part of the plan. Regardless, it is a positive solution, and one that should be undertaken regardless of the cost.

 

“Passengers will travel from Bratislava straight to the largest Swiss city in less than 10 hours without changing a train,” said Filip Hlubocký, general director of Slovakia’s state-run railway passenger carrier ZSSK, as quoted the SITA newswire.

 

https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22006136/high-speed-train-takes-passengers-from-bratislava-straight-to-zurich.html

[Surasak]

Once finished, I do hope it doesn't suffer brake failure!

[Surasak]

1 hour ago, apetryxx said:

Disclaimer, I love trains. As a retired airline pilot, I take the train whenever I can. No long security lines, one leaves and arrives from the city center and weather is rarely a problem. For trips of 5 hours or less you can’t beat the train. 

As to the snarky comments about not trusting a Thai to handle train engineering duties at 160 KPH, this is pure racist drivel.  There are plenty of intelligent hard working Thais flying planes, doctoring in complex specialties and working in disciplines that I can only marvel at. Keep your moronic statements to yourself. 

Keep your moronic statements to yourself. .....We do try, but it can be difficult when dealing with the average Jo.

[Vacuum]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

so not a big difference with the current one.... waste of money

But somehow a part of this money will find it's way to the pockets of some officials.....

[Burma Bill]

Quote:-

"Chumphon and the deep south."

I sincerely hope "security" is high on SRT's list regarding any possible insurgency.

[Jane Dough]

18 hours ago, happydays said:

Is the track going to be elevated? Not sure I’d want to travel at 160kph above ground.

 

 

Stay on the roads then.

 

They're ultra safe.

 

Rooster

[Lemonltr]

Excellent. But standard gauge please. 

[Geoffggi]

16 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

And how many Thais will be able to afford this? Second many foreigners will just fly cheaper and faster. This will be the biggest boondoggle in Thailand's history.

It's not for Thai people it is all part of their new Hi-so friends plans from china.......

[onekoolguy]

17 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

Not sure I would trust being whisked at 160 mile an hour ANYWHERE in Thailand.

 

Whatever next a Nuclear Power Plant ???

KPH is about .62 MPH  so not quite so fast. Right now the 8:25am train from bang sue gets to Hua Hin at 11:30am 3 hours. A faster train will be much easier than driving!

[ratcatcher]

3 hours ago, fred110 said:

Build a train from Suvarnabhum to Pattaya.

There is already a standard gauge railway line ARL, from Bangkok (Makkasan area) to the airport. All they have to do is extend it round and down to Pattaya and on south to U-Tapao. No need to build another railway. A fast train  is all that's required.

[outsider]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

The station, which is located near Bang Sue intersection on Thoet Damri road, will become the hub for Thailand’s new rail infrastructure, including the proposed high speed trains from Bangkok to Nong Khai and Bangkok to Chiang Mai.

 

19 hours ago, webfact said:

The Bang Sue Central Station will be the largest in Southeast Asia when it opens.

 

The largest what in SEA - the largest joke, perhaps? Snide remarks aside, after the Airport Rail Link malarkey, I'm not holding my breath on this one. A real hub means everything is interconnected. That means, for a start, users don't have to get down from the station to the ground level, cross the street and be exposed to sun and rain, to get to the next platform. Never mind whether the trains are high-speed or not.

 

If it's not too late, maybe you goons can pay a visit to Kuala Lumpur Sentral in Malaysia and see what a REAL hub is like. It has been operational since 2001, and their high-speed airport link is really that - high-speed. I have clocked it at 180+ km/h on more than one occasion using my Garmin GPS, and this line has been running since 2002, way before you nutheads started faffing about with your so-called high-speed airport rail link - and screwed it up. 

 

Back to KL Sentral - every rail line is linked by this HUB (yes a real one!) and once you are there, you are literally connected to the rest of the country - at least where the rail lines will go. Their latest inter-city train - the MRT - does not go to KL Sentral proper, but that did not stop them from building a proper walkway from the nearest stop to KL Sentral. It's a bit of a walk if I'm honest, but at least you do it in air-conditioned comfort. All the way!

 

Try getting the basics right first, before going for the biggest this and tallest that accolades. I do honestly hope the Bang Sue Central Station becomes what it is supposed to be, and not end up as a network of rusty old rail lines with no trains on it. If it works, it means I can travel around the country without being on the road and that's a big plus. I don't mind if it goes at 90 km/h - probably better because if there is a crash, 90 km/h is less devastating than 160 km/h. Yes I know it's a railway, I know some parts are elevated, but lest you forget, this IS Thailand.

 

 

[tlandtday]

14 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

It's not for Thai people it is all part of their new Hi-so friends plans from china.......

China is establishing itself in many parts of se asia by lending cash and pouring concrete with rail lines that will join to china this is colonization in action...

[connda]

A few years back there was talk of a dual track line to Chiang Mai.  Our local railway workers out here in the Lamphun province actually cleared the trees and forest to make way.  Then.....nada. <laughs>  My guess is those cleared areas will have trees growing in them again before a dual line comes this direction.  The North being the red-shirted headed step-children of the urban elite.  Why build a dual-track to Chiang Mai and the North considering it's next to uninhabitable four months out of the year due to the dangerous PM 2.5 levels.

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Chinese engineering and manufactured by the Chinese - maybe ok, Chinese engineering and built by Thai's-  Not OK

The Sino-Thai Engineering & Construction PCL seems to be the choice by the Prayut government for many of these rail projects. http://www.stecon.co.th/page_a.php?cid=11&cname=Company History

 

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The Sino-Thai Engineering & Construction PCL seems to be the choice by the Prayut government for many of these rail projects. http://www.stecon.co.th/page_a.php?cid=11&cname=Company History

 

Mighty big incentive for Anutin President Sino-Thai to turn his back on the people and join Prayut coalition. 

[bermondburi]

16 hours ago, cooked said:

This has to be a joke. Thailand needs dual tracking for sure, but what it also needs is a reliable, cheap and safe passenger service, with as much freight as possible going by rail.

Prestige project, nobody will use it more than once although some people will make a lot of money building it.

Travel frequently between Hua Hin and Suvanabhumi. I'd use it. Can't wait. It's gong to be great. 

15 hours ago, 300sd said:

Think that might be a bit of an exaggeration.

Hua Hin to suvanabhumi is normally about four hours with traffic etc.

5 hours ago, jlwilliamsjr18 said:

Hua Hin and surrounding areas are going through massive changes.  New enlarged water lines, reaching far out of town, road widening (trees removed), more sewage and waste water,  and lots of new construction. It seems there's a plan to enhance tourism with new sites and access.

 

Tourism is like a fickled girlfriend/boyfriend, they move on when they find something better. 

 

Who's paying for all this?

Why make Hua Hin more congested than it is already?

 

 

Yep, the widening of the road south to Pranburi continues apace. They've now reached Khao Tao. 

[Mavideol]

7 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The Sino-Thai Engineering & Construction PCL seems to be the choice by the Prayut government for many of these rail projects. http://www.stecon.co.th/page_a.php?cid=11&cname=Company History

 

should look for somebody, Cha Cha inner circles, with greasy pockets