steven100 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Hi all, Just purchased a new All-in-one desktop pc. 2.4Ghz .. wireless mouse and wireless keyboard. As usual, nothing is easy in Thailand ... it came with Win10 in thai language, so yesterday spent 2 hours on my mobile with video camera to my thai friend in Bangkok. Changed the language settings to English US and English Australia as required. Checked several you tube videos that show what to do and I did the same although some headings are not shown. Anyway, now have some apps in English but generally it's mostly still Thai language such as all the drop down menus and icons in the top title bar all open in thai. Even 10 minutes ago I have since messed up the apps display page as some icons have gone missing from my below tool bar. I hate windows 10, and want to install TrueOS ...... but even trying to download the program didn't succeed. The manual says it's a Windows 10 .. 30 day trial version OS. I may have to take the PC into town and get a Thai to fix .... ???? what a disaster ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Why not install Win. 10 as new as any copy of an installation disk recognize your dgital serial on your Laptop/PC /All in one , save you for 200 baht all the trouble ..all in English As I was needed to do..., after a disaster upgrade from windows to win 10 1903 ,i could even after downgrading by a roll back only use 2 days normal and a sudden could only see my document and slow as snail ... Almost I bought a AiO , as I came to this solution.... The shop at Tuckom opposite Jib computers , a corner Thai way "looking like a electronic garage repair shop" ,but friendly guy made a dvd win 10 & a USB stick Win 10 latest version 1903 bootable for all together with costs of dvd and usb 32 gb for 400 baht, and now that version is working fine and saved me the buck from buying a AIO If you based Pattaya , I am sure that shop can help you out 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, david555 said: Why not install Win. 10 as new as any copy of an installation disk recognize your dgital serial on your Laptop/PC /All in one , save you for 200 baht all the trouble ..all in English As I was needed to do..., after a disaster upgrade from windows to win 10 1903 ,i could even after downgrading by a roll back only use 2 days normal and a sudden could only see my document and slow as snail ... Almost I bought a AiO , as I came to this solution.... The shop at Tuckom opposite Jib computers , a corner Thai way "looking like a electronic garage repair shop" ,but friendly guy made a dvd win 10 & a USB stick Win 10 latest version 1903 bootable for all together with costs of dvd and usb 32 gb for 400 baht, and now that version is working fine and saved me the buck from buying a AIO If you based Pattaya , I am sure that shop can help you out Just changed the apps content location from Thai to Australia and now have 90% English across win 10. still some menus in Thai .... But to be honest ... after using windows 7 ultimate .... this Win 10 is really horrible, but I guess I'll get use to it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamJar Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Best to run a clean install of the English version. Click on this link to download; https://software-download.microsoft.com/pr/Win10_1903_V1_EnglishInternational_x64.iso Then get a USB Flash thumb drive of at least 8GB capacity. Click to download Rufus; https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.5/rufus-3.5.exe and use the instructions here on how to use Rufus to create the installation media What is the model number of your AIO? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Very good tutorial with many screenshots step by step what all can be done with windows media creator tool , can also serve as a rescue tool https://www.partitionwizard.com/clone-disk/windows-10-media-creation-tool.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, JamJar said: What is the model number of your AIO? SA1801 Edited July 3, 2019 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 13 hours ago, JamJar said: Best to run a clean install of the English version. Click on this link to download; https://software-download.microsoft.com/pr/Win10_1903_V1_EnglishInternational_x64.iso Then get a USB Flash thumb drive of at least 8GB capacity. Click to download Rufus; https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.5/rufus-3.5.exe and use the instructions here on how to use Rufus to create the installation media What is the model number of your AIO? You think I should stick with the Windows 10 clean English install and not try to install a new open source TrueOS .... ? WIN10 seems so user unfriendly .... and looks ugly ...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 I have to tell you I hate Windows 10 with vengeance ..... I try to download programs and most is re-directed to Microsoft store ... or you can only buy from Google play store. Also, how do you use Microsoft office ?? if I want to make an excel sheet or use word doc ??? I have to purchase Office 365 from Microsoft ??? I hate WIN10 .... it's horrible ! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 can I have a normal desktop appearance with Windows 10 ? can I just have icons on my desktop like windows 7 or cannot ?? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JamJar Posted July 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) I hope that you didn't pay much for it. Person there paid 2751 baht. Certainly not as much as below; https://shopee.co.th/STORM-ALL-IN-ONE-2.4GHZ-คอมพิวเตอร์ตั้งโต๊ะ-18.5--i.52127929.997790088 Ordinarily I would suggest to simply run your own clean install of Windows 10 Pro, customising the install to your own needs. It doesn't even have a Windows 10, Home or otherwise, licence anyway. They've just installed it without a licence. It has a ridiculous 64 GB capacity SD card for storage. You should make installation media for both TrueOS and Windows 10 Pro. So if you fail with the installation of the TrueOS, you can reinstall Windows 10, in English. How were you able to open Word and Excel before Windows 10? https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/software/get-microsoft-word-free-3633566/ You can install https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/14f8l0ai2a9patoa/artifacts/OpenShellSetup_4_4_138.exe to change the interface. At your own risk. https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/classic_start.html But I have normal icons on my Desktop anyway, so no need for Classic Shell. This is why you should clean install for yourself. So you can install the way that you want. If you want to run programs that are not contained with the Microsoft Store; https://www.easeus.com/computer-instruction/block-non-store-apps-to-install-on-windows-10.html Taking it to a shop will just get you more of the same. Best how to learn how to do the installation yourself. Edited July 3, 2019 by JamJar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 5 hours ago, steven100 said: can I have a normal desktop appearance with Windows 10 ? can I just have icons on my desktop like windows 7 or cannot ?? Download Open-Shell. Have a play with it and you should end up with a very Win 7 in appearance desktop and menus. One of my first tasks whenever I install Win 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 8:31 PM, JamJar said: Best to run a clean install of the English version. Click on this link to download; https://software-download.microsoft.com/pr/Win10_1903_V1_EnglishInternational_x64.iso Then get a USB Flash thumb drive of at least 8GB capacity. Click to download Rufus; https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/releases/download/v3.5/rufus-3.5.exe and use the instructions here on how to use Rufus to create the installation media What is the model number of your AIO? The Win10 link doesn't work. I get error 403 Forbidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamJar Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 hours ago, steven100 said: The Win10 link doesn't work. I get error 403 Forbidden That is because it times out within twenty four hours; https://software-download.microsoft.com/db/Win10_1903_V1_EnglishInternational_x64.iso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 CPU : Intel Apollo Lake N3350 @ 2.4GHz - ระบบปฏิบัติการ : WIN10 (30 days trail version) - หน้าจอ : 18.5 นิ้ว - ความละเอียด : 1366 x 768 - RAM : 4G DDR3L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 12 hours ago, JamJar said: That is because it times out within twenty four hours; https://software-download.microsoft.com/db/Win10_1903_V1_EnglishInternational_x64.iso thanks, it's now downloading .... also I have a 16G usb flash drive, so I have to save the Rufus to the flash drive ? and make it bootable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiMaai Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 You use rufus to make the flash drive bootable. You don't save rufus to it.Run rufus, select your flash drive and the Windows ISO and go.Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 how is your install going? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, JaiMaai said: You use rufus to make the flash drive bootable. You don't save rufus to it. Run rufus, select your flash drive and the Windows ISO and go. Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk so .... I have downloaded the Win10 English 4.6G ... I plug in my 16G USB and tried to send the downloaded file over to the USB Drive D, but it says File is too Large for the destination system.... which is BS as it's 16G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: how is your install going? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophon Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, steven100 said: so .... I have downloaded the Win10 English 4.6G ... I plug in my 16G USB and tried to send the downloaded file over to the USB Drive D, but it says File is too Large for the destination system.... which is BS as it's 16G Not BS, just means that your USB drive is probably formatted as FAT32 which has a file size limit of 4GB per file. Reformat the drive as NTFS which allows bigger files. Sophon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamJar Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, steven100 said: thanks, it's now downloading .... also I have a 16G usb flash drive, so I have to save the Rufus to the flash drive ? and make it bootable ? Look here; https://zillowtech.com/create-windows-10-installation-media.html Scroll down to Create Bootable USB using Rufus Choose Select rather than Download, since you have already downloaded the Windows 10 image. I'm not sure if your device supports UEFI or utilises Legacy BIOS. So before you do anything else, follow the instructions here; https://www.thewindowsclub.com/check-if-uefi-or-bios in order to let me know which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, JamJar said: Look here; https://zillowtech.com/create-windows-10-installation-media.html Scroll down to Create Bootable USB using Rufus Choose Select rather than Download, since you have already downloaded the Windows 10 image. I'm not sure if your device supports UEFI or utilises Legacy BIOS. So before you do anything else, follow the instructions here; https://www.thewindowsclub.com/check-if-uefi-or-bios in order to let me know which. yes ..... I was just doing that now . tks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 UEFI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Why go to all of this bother and complexity etc etc., why not buy something mainstream which is already set up for 90% of what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 11:20 AM, steven100 said: The Win10 link doesn't work. I get error 403 Forbidden Try this one: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10 Regarding office and Windows 10. Buy your license from e-bay and check the reputation of the seller. You can get both genuine keys for less than 500 baht. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Office-Professional-Plus-2016-Software-with-Key-for-Windows/401794740915?epid=219667073&hash=item5d8cd532b3:g:DYoAAOSwYbpc66iv I didn't buy from this seller, just an example. You'll get the key via e-mail in only an hour, or two. Then you can download office from here: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/download-and-install-or-reinstall-office-2016-or-office-2013-7c695b06-6d1a-4917-809c-98ce43f86479 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, steven100 said: so .... I have downloaded the Win10 English 4.6G ... I plug in my 16G USB and tried to send the downloaded file over to the USB Drive D, but it says File is too Large for the destination system.... which is BS as it's 16G Use it the way as it's shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfCvoAEY7w I've bought keys for W 10 Pro ( do not buy the cheap versions) and MS office 2016. Page me if you need some help. Edited July 7, 2019 by Isaanbiker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 Been in town ....just got back but all good so far and now just clicked setup file and Win10 is loading .. Question : do I have to do anything with the old Thai/Eng version i'm using now or will it just overwrite this one ??? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 It will overwrite.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 and I thought things were going so well ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 Did all the below so fingers crossed .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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