Scotland's leader tells Johnson: we want an independence referendum

[snoop1130]

Scotland's leader tells Johnson: we want an independence referendum

 

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon visits a building site in Easterhouse during continued Brexit uncertainty in Glasgow, Scotland, Britain, April 5, 2019. John Linton/Pool via REUTERS

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Scotland’s nationalist leader warned British Prime Minister Boris Johnson that she would continue preparations for an independence referendum because his Brexit plans would hurt the Scottish economy.

 

“It is now - more than ever - essential that in Scotland we have an alternative option,” Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said in a letter to Johnson.

 

“The Scottish government will continue to make preparations to give people in Scotland the choice of becoming an independent country,” she said, adding that the Scottish parliament would consider framework legislation for a referendum after the summer recess.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-25

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[Phuketshrew]

[vogie]

I thought Scotland had had their once in a life time referendum?

[JAS21]

The Poison Dwarf has awakened again ...

[HeyHeyHey]

18 minutes ago, vogie said:

I thought Scotland had had their once in a life time referendum?

They would say "we voted NO you elitist bi..."

 

[elliss]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

I thought Scotland had had their once in a life time referendum?

 

Nah , they got it wrong that time mate..

[elliss]

52 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

The Poison Dwarf has awakened again ...

 

 Yep ,  and she will have  big balls , with her haggis, asap...

 

 

[JAS21]

26 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

 Yep ,  and she will have  big balls , with her haggis, asap...

 

 

Didn't she get stuffed at the last election ... maybe she will be in the haggis shortly ...

Edited July 25, 2019 by JAS21

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Scotland’s nationalist leader warned British Prime Minister Boris Johnson that she would continue preparations for an independence referendum because his Brexit plans would hurt the Scottish economy.

Tick, tick, tick...faeces meet fan

[pegman]

Best to get out before the bottom drops out.

[Slip]

Guid.  I want my Scots passport.  You English can get tae... 

[elliss]

10 minutes ago, Slip said:

Guid.  I want my Scots passport.  You English can get tae... 

 

Ach ay man , asap.. 555

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2019 by elliss

[RuamRudy]

I thought Scotland had had their once in a life time referendum?

Is democracy rationed now?

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[RuamRudy]

Didn't she get stuffed at the last election ... maybe she will be in the haggis shortly ...

It all depends upon your definition of 'stuffed'. If winning a majority of Scottish Westminster seats means getting stuffed then I guess you are right.

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[elliss]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Best to get out before the bottom drops out.

 

        God bless America ..

[RuamRudy]

 

Nah , they got it wrong that time mate..

You are damned right they did - let's hope they don't make the same mistake next time.

 

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[elliss]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Is democracy rationed now?
 

 

     Democracy is now controlled .  Putin, along with the Thai PM ,  never left the political arena ..

       More to follow this democratic pattern . 

 

 

[Thongkorn]

2 hours ago, HeyHeyHey said:

They would say "we voted NO you elitist bi..."

 

You forgot to tell that it was a Scottish clan who walked away from this battle and left other clans to their deaths,

[Chomper Higgot]

It begs a question.

 

In the event of the break up of the UK, what happens to the UK’s position at the UN Security Council?

[soalbundy]

7 hours ago, elliss said:

 

        God bless America ..

I think he is crying

[Chicken George]

Let the rest of the UK vote on Scottish independence too.. Scotland would be gone.. But beware we will not let you have the pound. A hard border. Get your own army Navy and Airforce. No right to own property or work in the UK. No tax allowances in the UK. That's no second house.. No right of abode.. Visit the rest of the UK then get a visa.. No money from Westminster.. Not  what I originally wished for but fed up of the moaning. Goodbye Scotland.????

[evadgib]

Not during Johnson's watch...

[overherebc]

It's time wee Nicky went on a long holiday.

[soalbundy]

This was bound to happen but the Scots are probably as p1ssed off with the independance question as everybody else is with brexit

[vogie]

10 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Is democracy rationed now?

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No, not rationed RR, but most people would have thought a referendum every 4 years is over egging the pudding, let us not forget the Scots that voted to remain (the majority) within our Union, their vote still counts doesn't it, or does democracy only count when it goes your way?

[overherebc]

25 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

This was bound to happen but the Scots are probably as p1ssed off with the independance question as everybody else is with brexit

This one is. ????

Although looking a bit further into the future and rising sea levels the Welsh and the Scots are the ones with the high bits but then again wee Nicky by the fact of being a politician can't see further than her backpocket. ????????

Edited July 26, 2019 by overherebc

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Chicken George said:

Let the rest of the UK vote on Scottish independence too.. Scotland would be gone.. But beware we will not let you have the pound. A hard border. Get your own army Navy and Airforce. No right to own property or work in the UK. No tax allowances in the UK. That's no second house.. No right of abode.. Visit the rest of the UK then get a visa.. No money from Westminster.. Not  what I originally wished for but fed up of the moaning. Goodbye Scotland.????

And it’s not yet even midday.

 

 

[johnnybangkok]

2 hours ago, Chicken George said:

Let the rest of the UK vote on Scottish independence too.. Scotland would be gone.. But beware we will not let you have the pound. A hard border. Get your own army Navy and Airforce. No right to own property or work in the UK. No tax allowances in the UK. That's no second house.. No right of abode.. Visit the rest of the UK then get a visa.. No money from Westminster.. Not  what I originally wished for but fed up of the moaning. Goodbye Scotland.????

What a completely inane post. You are the reason Scotland is even contemplating independence.

Let's break down your statement:-

 

'Let the rest of the UK vote on Scottish independence too..'  - Why? It would have nothing to do with them.

'we will not let you have the pound' - it's not yours (and I assume you're English). It belongs to the whole of the UK which if I recall, Scotland is still very much a part of.

'No tax allowances in the UK' - what's that supposed to mean? If Scotland leaves it will not be part of the UK (as the UK won't exist any more) and will set their own taxes.

'A hard border' - Hadrian built the wall. Scotland's been wanting to build it higher for years to keep you bampots out.

'Get your own army Navy and Airforce' - again, they are not yours. they belong to the whole of the UK. This is the type of English arrogance the Scots have to put up with on a daily basis.

'No right to own property or work in the UK' - I assume again you mean England (no Uk remember) and why wouldn't they? Russians, Chinese, Europeans, Americans and the rest of world can own property in England so why shouldn't the Scots? And as for working, the same rules would apply for any foreign national.

The rest are just nonsense so let's skip to the juicy part:-

'No money from Westminster' - Fine. Just leave the oil, natural resources and whisky. They'll be fine.

 

Scotland has a legitimate gripe concerning self-governance as they have no say whatsoever in what political party gets into Westminster and when voting very firmly to remain, it again makes no difference.  If the same circumstances were happening to English we'd never hear the end of it.

As the leader of the SNP, Sturgeon only has Scotland's interests at heart and although I'm not a fan of leaving the UK, stupid, rabid statements like this make me inclined to reconsider.  

 

 

 

[sawadee1947]

14 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

What a completely inane post. You are the reason Scotland is even contemplating independence.

Let's break down your statement:-

 

'Let the rest of the UK vote on Scottish independence too..'  - Why? It would have nothing to do with them.

'we will not let you have the pound' - it's not yours (and I assume you're English). It belongs to the whole of the UK which if I recall, Scotland is still very much a part of.

'No tax allowances in the UK' - what's that supposed to mean? If Scotland leaves it will not be part of the UK (as the UK won't exist any more) and will set their own taxes.

'A hard border' - Hadrian built the wall. Scotland's been wanting to build it higher for years to keep you bampots out.

'Get your own army Navy and Airforce' - again, they are not yours. they belong to the whole of the UK. This is the type of English arrogance the Scots have to put up with on a daily basis.

'No right to own property or work in the UK' - I assume again you mean England (no Uk remember) and why wouldn't they? Russians, Chinese, Europeans, Americans and the rest of world can own property in England so why shouldn't the Scots? And as for working, the same rules would apply for any foreign national.

The rest are just nonsense so let's skip to the juicy part:-

'No money from Westminster' - Fine. Just leave the oil, natural resources and whisky. They'll be fine.

 

Scotland has a legitimate gripe concerning self-governance as they have no say whatsoever in what political party gets into Westminster and when voting very firmly to remain, it again makes no difference.  If the same circumstances were happening to English we'd never hear the end of it.

As the leader of the SNP, Sturgeon only has Scotland's interests at heart and although I'm not a fan of leaving the UK, stupid, rabid statements like this make me inclined to reconsider.  

 

 

 

Thank you for your qualified reply. It's rare to find on TV in these times of hatred, lies and fake news. 

[gamini]

15 hours ago, vogie said:

I thought Scotland had had their once in a life time referendum?

But it voted to stay in the EU