Oral Sex ?

[swissie]

This is as blunt and as straight foreward that it will ever get. Fasten seat-belts!

 

- What diseases can be passed on by strictly practising Oral-Sex? Giving or taking? Males/Females?
Excluding Condom applications in any form or shape, well understood.

Credible scientistic findings only, please!

[faraday]

I think it is possible to get all the STI's, but how probable it is, I dunno.

 

Just looked it up:

 

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0020624

[faraday]

And to add, if you think you got sumptin'....go & get it checked.

[sillyfool]

is this another i ate out a prostitute thread and am worried now. disguised as a inquiry.....

[scubascuba3]

Male receiving oral, gonorrhea definitely possible. Symptoms of discharge and\or burning when urinating

 

Male giving oral also definitely possible to catch gonorrhea, symptom swollen and\or sore throat.

 

If someone has throat gonorrhea they need a throat swab to detect it, it won't show up in a urine test

 

 

[Kinnock]

My understanding is that AIDS is very unlikely as the virus is quite delicate.  AIDS viruses have been isolated from saliva, but they were not viable.

 

But the 'traditional' STD's can be passed on as they are more robust and so can survive in the hostile environments of mouth, stomach, (nose and eyes for Japanese enthusiasts) - so a greater risk.  But mouth and stomach acids can reduce the risks slightly.

 

So may be a lower risk than other types of activity.

 

I used to work in Public Health so this is based on the old health advisories and medical officer guidelines, but a keen Googler (or Gobbler) may know more than me.

 

Personally I stick (sticky?) to a long term partner to manage any risks.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Kinnock

[ezzra]

I'm no scientist but as soon as i started having sex i was aware of the perils of catching all sorts of nasty diseases from unprotected sex, and several visits to the doctors has cemented that knowledge, and it's amazes me that a grownup has to ask about now, as i said, i'm no scientist... 

[scubascuba3]

My understanding is that AIDS is very unlikely as the virus is quite delicate.  AIDS viruses have been isolated from saliva, but they were not viable.
 
But the 'traditional' STD's can be passed on as they are more robust and so can survive in the hostile environments of mouth, stomach, (nose and eyes for Japanese enthusiasts) - so a greater risk.  But mouth and stomach acids can reduce the risks slightly.
 
So may be a lower risk than other types of activity.
 
I used to work in Public Health so this is based on the old health advisories and medical officer guidelines, but a keen Googler (or Gobbler) may know more than me.
 
Personally I stick (sticky?) to a long term partner to manage any risks.

I stopped reading once you said AIDS. It's HIV

[Kinnock]

10 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

14 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

My understanding is that AIDS is very unlikely as the virus is quite delicate.  AIDS viruses have been isolated from saliva, but they were not viable.
 
But the 'traditional' STD's can be passed on as they are more robust and so can survive in the hostile environments of mouth, stomach, (nose and eyes for Japanese enthusiasts) - so a greater risk.  But mouth and stomach acids can reduce the risks slightly.
 
So may be a lower risk than other types of activity.
 
I used to work in Public Health so this is based on the old health advisories and medical officer guidelines, but a keen Googler (or Gobbler) may know more than me.
 
Personally I stick (sticky?) to a long term partner to manage any risks.

I stopped reading once you said AIDS. It's HIV

HIV wasn't a term in use when I was working in Public health - but feel free to stop reading based on your different terminology. 

[neeray]

Too

Much

Information

 

TMI

[thaibeachlovers]

24 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

My understanding is that AIDS is very unlikely as the virus is quite delicate.  AIDS viruses have been isolated from saliva, but they were not viable.

 

But the 'traditional' STD's can be passed on as they are more robust and so can survive in the hostile environments of mouth, stomach, (nose and eyes for Japanese enthusiasts) - so a greater risk.  But mouth and stomach acids can reduce the risks slightly.

 

So may be a lower risk than other types of activity.

 

I used to work in Public Health so this is based on the old health advisories and medical officer guidelines, but a keen Googler (or Gobbler) may know more than me.

 

Personally I stick (sticky?) to a long term partner to manage any risks.

AIDS would normally be hard to transmit orally, but if the guy had bleeding gums he might transmit it to her, and if she was still bleeding a bit from period or some other reason, she might give it to him.

IMO the risk must be low, as I have not heard of many farangs becoming infected with AIDS from visiting Thai prostitutes. If it was a problem the Pattaya hating British gutter press would be all over it.

 

However, IMO having casual intercourse without a condom for the entire period of penetration is extremely risky.

[Kenny202]

HIV and AIDs are 2 different things. AIDs is the second more serious stage. HIV is the initial stage. 

 

Its not like AIDs is an old derogatory term

[thaibeachlovers]

29 minutes ago, ezzra said:

I'm no scientist but as soon as i started having sex i was aware of the perils of catching all sorts of nasty diseases from unprotected sex, and several visits to the doctors has cemented that knowledge, and it's amazes me that a grownup has to ask about now, as i said, i'm no scientist... 

LOL. There was a recent post on TVF by someone that claimed he only used a condom for the last bit.

Most of us lose our minds when in the position to let the little head rule.

[swissie]

1 hour ago, sillyfool said:

is this another i ate out a prostitute thread and am worried now. disguised as a inquiry.....

NO. Thats not the case.

[Tayaout]

From my highschool sex education, I learned that orally you can get mostly siphilis, gonorrhea and herpes. For HIV the risk is very low unless there is some bleeding or biting involved. Chlamydia risk is low too. Obviously my class was aimed at teenager with a relatively normal sex life.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Tayaout

[Denim]

I think Herpes deserves an honorary mention.

[CharlieH]

Hope it's not the case, but that's a hell of a way to find out the partner has been playing away ! You got both physical and emotional pain to sort out if that's happened.

 

Go see a medical professional get it diagnosed properly and treated, all the best.

 

[BritManToo]

46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO the risk must be low, as I have not heard of many farangs becoming infected with AIDS from visiting Thai prostitutes. If it was a problem the Pattaya hating British gutter press would be all over it.

My pal died from AIDs this summer, caught from a Chiang Mai girl in the Loi Krow area.

Don't know which one, he did many.

Diagnosed 2 years ago, spent his last year bedridden and dying in a London hospital.

He liked to lick.

He was a frequent poster on this forum until his illness forced him back to the UK.

Edited October 2, 2019 by BritManToo

[Kenny202]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My pal died from AIDs this summer, caught from a Chiang Mai girl in the Loi Krow area.

Don't know which one, he did many.

Diagnosed 2 years ago, spent his last year bedridden and dying in a London hospital.

He liked to lick.

He was a frequent poster on this forum until his illness forced him back to the UK.

I have seen you post this before. Nobody should really die of AIDs anymore. Did he leave it too long for treatment or didn't take the meds? 

[Peterw42]

12 minutes ago, Denim said:

I think Herpes deserves an honorary mention.

I agree, herpes would be the main one to worry about. 

[swissie]

1 hour ago, faraday said:

I think it is possible to get all the STI's, but how probable it is, I dunno.

 

Just looked it up:

 

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0020624

Thanks Faraday. You are (so far) the only one that has delivered some scientific  documentation concerning this matter. That's what I asked for.

 

[Peterw42]

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My pal died from AIDs this summer, caught from a Chiang Mai girl in the Loi Krow area.

Don't know which one, he did many.

Diagnosed 2 years ago, spent his last year bedridden and dying in a London hospital.

He liked to lick.

He was a frequent poster on this forum until his illness forced him back to the UK.

Is there more to the friends history, bisexual, lady-boys, intravenous drug user etc ?

I had a mate back in Australia with HIV etc who led a double life for years that nobody was aware of.

[BritManToo]

18 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

I have seen you post this before. Nobody should really die of AIDs anymore. Did he leave it too long for treatment or didn't take the meds? 

Didn't know anything was wrong, never tested as he didn't consider he was in a 'risk' group.

Two years back, I pointed out some strange marks on his cheeks (ringworm), they never went away.

One year back (in Kos) lost weight and collapsed, diagnosed with pneumonia and medically repatriated to the UK.

Straight to a London hospital, where he was diagnosed with HIV, where he spent most of his last year.

They let him out for a couple of weeks over Christmas, where he was discovered in his flat after 3 days unconscious on the floor with sepsis. 

 

He had the best possible medical care in a specialist UK hospital at all times after the two week Greek hospital.

I travelled all around SEA with him for ten years, stayed with him in London and knew him as well as it is possible to know another human being, never any signs of abnormal sexual behaviour (apart from the licking fetish), no ladyboys, no interest in men. I was in contact with him the entire time via messenger, when he was conscious enough to type.

 

Over that ten years we both had multiple female partners, and never used condoms,

I'm convinced he caught it from oral sex.

Edited October 3, 2019 by BritManToo

[OneMoreFarang]

Maybe you should make an anonymous poll out of this...

 

[brokenbone]

a few secs of bj for fun incurred yet another gonorrhea

on me, so the anti fun more then cancelled out the fun part in the equation.

[Tayaout]

20 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Over that ten years we both had multiple female partners, and never used condoms,

I'm convinced he caught it from oral sex.

It's way more likely he got it by penetrative sex. You are not guaranteed to get it this way everytime. You could even share the same girl and not get infected while he is. Some very small part of the population is even immune or can resist infection. 

[tifino]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Male receiving oral, gonorrhea definitely possible. Symptoms of discharge and\or burning when urinating

 

Male giving oral also definitely possible to catch gonorrhea, symptom swollen and\or sore throat.

 

If someone has throat gonorrhea they need a throat swab to detect it, it won't show up in a urine test

 

 

ahh! - but what if there's a golden shower included?

[Momofarang]

22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Didn't know anything was wrong, never tested as he didn't consider he was in a 'risk' group.

Two years back, I pointed out some strange marks on his cheeks (ringworm), they never went away.

One year back (in Kos) lost weight and collapsed, diagnosed with pneumonia and medically repatriated to the UK.

Straight to a London hospital, where he was diagnosed with HIV, where he spent most of his last year.

They let him out for a couple of weeks over Christmas, where he was discovered in his flat after 3 days unconscious on the floor with sepsis. 

 

He had the best possible medical care in a specialist UK hospital at all times after the two week Greek hospital.

I travelled all around SEA with him for ten years, stayed with him in London and knew him as well as it is possible to know another human being, never any signs of abnormal sexual behaviour (apart from the licking fetish), no ladyboys, no interest in men. I was in contact with him the entire time via messenger, when he was conscious enough to type.

 

Over that ten years we both had multiple female partners, and never used condoms,

I'm convinced he caught it from oral sex.

Why from oral sex? Most likely he caught some STD, left untreated and increased dramatically his risk to catch HIV. Never go bareback with any skin lesion on your penis.

Barebackers must test for HIV. I do.

[steven100]

47 minutes ago, Denim said:

I think Herpes deserves an honorary mention.

is that one really bad.

[brokenbone]

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

is that one really bad.

i know a girl that got informed by dr she got it by oral,

its a lifetime sentence