Australian, American among four charged for ‘Abandoned Phuket Zoo’ post

[Logosone]

14 minutes ago, korse said:

How do you know, that the animals are not taken care of? 

Properly are the animals taken care of as usual....We are just dealing with idiots trying to fool people into donating money....I hope they will be spending long time in the "monkey house".

It's evident from the videos. 

 

The animals were neglected and wallowing in their own filth.

[phantomfiddler]

2 hours ago, owl sees all said:

So, what's going to happen to the polar bears and rabbits now?

The rabbits are real, but the polar bears are large Farangs in polar bear suits, and they eat at McDonalds ????

[hansgruber]

How can the zoo be abandoned when the owner lives directly across the road in that huge mansion? The zoo is on their doorstep. 

The land that the zoo sits is also their land. 

They entered private property and broke the law. 

When will farangs learn you can't come to Thailand and change things?. Let Thailand be Thailand. 

The zoo was in the process of finding new homes for the animals and closing down anyway.

 

[Canuck1966]

25 minutes ago, korse said:

How do you know, that the animals are not taken care of? 

Properly are the animals taken care of as usual....We are just dealing with idiots trying to fool people into donating money....I hope they will be spending long time in the "monkey house".

What a strange and twisted comment

[Logosone]

4 minutes ago, hansgruber said:

How can the zoo be abandoned when the owner lives directly across the road in that huge mansion?

 

Just because he lived across the road does not mean he was taking care of the animals.

 

The animal videos speak more clearly than a thousand words. Those animals were abandoned and wallowing in their own filth.

 

Clearly not taken care of and abandoned.

[ChipButty]

2 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Just because he lived across the road does not mean he was taking care of the animals.

 

The animal videos speak more clearly than a thousand words. Those animals were abandoned and wallowing in their own filth.

 

Clearly not taken care of and abandoned.

The whole place looks abandoned if you are going to keep animals then they need to be in a clean environment to me it looks as tough nobody has been in there sweeping all the leafs for months

[smedly]

simple solution 

 

If Phuket authorities are going to take care of the animals then either step up or select some people who will and provide them with funding

 

as for those mentioned in the OP nobody knows for sure what their intentions were but probably the wrong way to go about it

[hansgruber]

7 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Just because he lived across the road does not mean he was taking care of the animals.

 

The animal videos speak more clearly than a thousand words. Those animals were abandoned and wallowing in their own filth.

 

Clearly not taken care of and abandoned.

That's not for nosey westerners to decide. 

The authorities went in and said they are all healthy. 

You can't enter private property and solicit donations for animals that aren't even yours. 

The zoo has been a dump like that for nearly 2 decades. Nothing new here. 

Every couple of years you get these tourist/activists trying to close the zoo or dolphin show. 

Always ends in farang being shooshed. 

Who remembers Joe Blasey? 

[jomtienisgood]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

One of these was white (the girl).

Two Thai names, one Viet name.

Who says she is white? Maybe black, yellowish, green?????

[hansgruber]

1 minute ago, jomtienisgood said:

Who says she is white? Maybe black, yellowish, green?????

That's them. Even shows in the video that people angry have gone to smash up the zoo and they are urging their supporters to stop. 

After I saw the vandalism their cause lost any credibility it had. 

[shackleton]

It's quite amazing what people will do here in Thailand 

No  sympathy for them breaking the law

Deserve the consequences 

[Logosone]

17 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

The whole place looks abandoned if you are going to keep animals then they need to be in a clean environment to me it looks as tough nobody has been in there sweeping all the leafs for months

 

Well, exactly. If you have animals you have a duty of care. You have to ensure they have a proper environment. Those animals wallowing in filth show the zoo owner breached his duty of care and neglected those animals.

 

Yet the Thai police arrests only the people who call attention to the neglect, but not the person responsible for the neglect?

 

Something very wrong here.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Logosone

[ChipButty]

4 minutes ago, hansgruber said:

That's them. Even shows in the video that people angry have gone to smash up the zoo and they are urging their supporters to stop. 

After I saw the vandalism their cause lost any credibility it had. 

According to my wife Thai people are also not happy with this, at the moment we dont know who the vandals are but surely if the owner lives across the road, he didn't see anything?

[Terry B]

4 hours ago, car720 said:

Just another example of the direction of the future.  

...and just another example of what i have personally experienced with the general mindset of these kinds of schemes, that in my experience what they initially appear to be. really ruin it for the good ones, but so difficult to differentiate! ????

[ChipButty]

6 minutes ago, shackleton said:

It's quite amazing what people will do here in Thailand 

No  sympathy for them breaking the law

Deserve the consequences 

OK Sherlock what laws have they broke up to now?

[Logosone]

14 minutes ago, hansgruber said:

That's not for nosey westerners to decide. 

The authorities went in and said they are all healthy. 

You can't enter private property and solicit donations for animals that aren't even yours. 

The zoo has been a dump like that for nearly 2 decades. Nothing new here. 

Every couple of years you get these tourist/activists trying to close the zoo or dolphin show. 

Always ends in farang being shooshed. 

Who remembers Joe Blasey? 

I was in Phuket Zoo a few years ago, it looked perfectly fine. Nothing like the awful neglect we saw in those videos.

 

I rather doubt the authorities did a proper check of the health of each of those animals. 

 

Obviously this owner has capitulated and given up on the zoo. That was reflected in the care of the animals.

 

I'm no fan of animal rights extremists, but if those people had not done what they did, nobody would know what is going in in Phuket Zoo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Fancyzancy]

Just like an Aussi to drag an innocent American into his drama....       ????????????

[AgMech Cowboy]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

One of these was white (the girl).

I saw the name Joy, but of the 2 pictured, who look from the back like farang males, how do you know there was a girl???

[Hoppyone]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

One of these was white (the girl).

Two Thai names, one Viet name.

Yes didn’t see any good Aussie names in that lot

[Kenny202]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

One of these was white (the girl).

Two Thai names, one Viet name.

Many Viets Australian born nationals. Big community there, good people and asset to the community. On another note the spelling and grammar of many on here would give you some clue as to their IQ ???????????? Just embarrassing yourselves.

[ChipButty]

6 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

I saw the name Joy, but of the 2 pictured, who look from the back like farang males, how do you know there was a girl???

She's in the video, and they are not farang in the true sense their names are Vietnamese 

[ThailandRyan]

The Zoo has filed paperwork in order to close amid financial issues and probably because other reports, but mainly due to a lack of tourists which bring in money to feed the animals, and this is now because of COVID-19.

 

https://wildwelfare.org/what-does-the-closure-of-phuket-zoo-mean-for-the-animals/

[beechbum]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

One of these was white (the girl).

Two Thai names, one Viet name.

So what, lots of Australians have Vietnamese heritige.

[Wildliferescue]

I am the founder and director of the Wildlife Friends Foundation in Thailand and have been in touch for over a week with the group of people that filmed and posted the videos of the Phuket Zoo a few weeks ago, it is the same group that started the fundraiser online.

 

I am aware of some of the comments posted on ThaiVisa and I would like to give you my view on the story;

 

Some of the tigers in the video were skinny but old, which is normal for a tiger to be a bit thin at that age, however the animals were indeed neglected and did not get the right nutrition or amounts of nutrition at that time. The enclosures were extremely dirty and had not been cleaned for weeks at the time of the video. Once authorities and local media visited the zoo after the International outcry, all cages were cleaned up as the zoo received notice of the check-up a few days in advance. While people focus on the tigers, I would like to add that the bears and crocodiles were in worse and even more horrendous condition at the time.

 

You might argue that the campaigners were too fast in posting the cry for help and the online fundraiser, without consulting the owners of the zoo or local charities working on issues as this one, but they did communicate with the zoo keepers and manager of the zoo at that time who were happy to receive food supplies on a daily bases. Evidence of these food deliveries have been posted frequently online. The zoo keepers and manager of the zoo have stated several times the zoo was in financial trouble, was to be closed down and could not feed all animals without help. The fact that government officials are now also feeding the animals (see the article on Phuket News) should be proof enough to see there is a serious issue ongoing, I would like to ask these officials where these funds come from as the government has no budgets set aside for such issues. 

 

I have been in touch with both the zoo and the group of fundraisers for the last weeks. Right now the zoo is going to file for closure and many of the animals will need to be relocated, which will cost a lot of money if they are going to need decent rehoming. The zoo plans to move the most “popular” animals such as the tigers and orangutans to a new facility called the Phuket Bird Park. The other animals will then probably be sold or dumped. 

 

The group of fundraisers have claimed until date that they did not touch any of the money from the online fundraiser and said they are not planning to touch any of it until there is a way they can spend it on directly helping the Phuket Zoo animals. Food donations till now were paid for out of people’s own pockets both by foreign and Thai members of the above-mentioned group.

 

The legal charges by the zoo against the group are outrageous, filing for trespassing and computer crimes for which very high penalties exist. The zoo has been aware of the efforts to feed the animals and from the beginning were informed and ok with it. 

 

In the meantime, if anyone questions the reputation of the Phuket zoo as an innocent or nice facility, I would challenge you in doing a search on Google on the search terms of “Phuket Zoo”, “Milo”, “Dumbo”, or just animal torture.

 

Edwin Wiek

Director and Founder

Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand (WFFT)

 

[SupermarineS6B]

First rule in Thailand....... Do not point out that anything is wrong here......  or else you'll be taking a holiday..... one you don't want......... Simple as that......  Second rule, foreigners are always wrong and Thais are always right...... Getting the picture ?   Getting all too predictable now, all we need is Anutin to be made PM then it's game over........... FULL STOP ...........  

[beechbum]

49 minutes ago, Logosone said:

I was in Phuket Zoo a few years ago, it looked perfectly fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolute BS, you must be blind, it's been a festering cesspit for a very long time.

[ChipButty]

17 minutes ago, Wildliferescue said:

 The other animals will then probably be sold or dumped. 

 

 

 

Dumped where?

[Snackbar]

22 minutes ago, SupermarineS6B said:

First rule in Thailand....... Do not point out that anything is wrong here......  or else you'll be taking a holiday..... one you don't want......... Simple as that......  Second rule, foreigners are always wrong and Thais are always right...... Getting the picture ?   Getting all too predictable now, all we need is Anutin to be made PM then it's game over........... FULL STOP ...........  

Not correct. 
 

If you can read and write in Thai and supply examples of support your rant is meaningless. 

 

Stay safe at home

 

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[tomauasia]

Police are charging them for telling the truth. I don't trust Thais for 2 seconds. They don't care about the animals. 

Just ask Tim Ward.. Why don't they feed there own dogs. Answer money. RTP a joke 

[owl sees all]

1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said:

The rabbits are real, but the polar bears are large Farangs in polar bear suits, and they eat at McDonalds ????

I think the world, best organised by The Don, should get together and evacuate all the polar bears from the north pole to the south pole. That would end global warming once and for all. Then money can be wasted on other stuff; like clearing the world's oceans of plastic waste.