Many people see their businesses being destroyed by unnecessary Government Actions.

Others see a Financial crisis coming that will have a major impact on their well beings.

The visa situation for the future is pretty unclear.

The tight connection from Thailand to the Chinese is a worry for some.

Some believe there is a Pandemic and are scared of getting sick.

Some have problems with Immigration to extend their visas.

Some worry about their neighbors and friends being ripped of their lives work by a corrupt Government.

Some have issues with ridiculous Government measures that make entirely no sense and harm businesses.

Some simply worry about the future.

 

Some spend too much time reading fake news and believing everything.

Some cannot stand the fact of having time to actually think about their lives ...

 

There are many reasons why people would be in a bad mood or worrying right now.

 

Unless you have the funds to enjoy an empty island it is quite difficult to enjoy anything

while seeing your lives work or stream of income disappearing.

 

The Thailand we knew will not come back ... any many people have a problem with this.

So it comes to no surprise that some people are thin skinned at the moment.

Not everybody can enjoy a day in the swimming pool or walking the beach all day.

Some actually have quite many things to worry about ... and if they run a business then they might even care about the well being of their staff ... 

 

It is a very dire situation for many people right now. Foreigners and Thais !!!

And quite many of the reasons are very real !!! And troublesome.

 

Paradise [if Samui can be called this, which I highly doubt] is worth nothing if you can't enjoy it !

Living next to people who have barely anything to survive right now makes it hard to enjoy anything ...

especially when there is not much you can do about it !

 

People might want to see that there is a huge number of people on this island that are about [or have already] to

lose everything !!! ... makes "paradise" shine in a very different light for people who really care about more than themselves.

 

4 hours ago, crazykopite said:

Do expats walk around with a sticker on their forehead with the words

” I’m an expat “ how can one tell the difference between a tourist and an expat “ asking for a friend “

There are not many tourists here at the moment.

the disposition of an expat in Thailand (or anywhere in the world for that matter) has always been the least of my concerns when living abroad..

They dont like it - LEAVE...get out! 

Theres a few gruff ones get opposite  the 'Downunder Bar' in Lamai often.

Lunatic Germanic types...

I was warned about  a group of Nasty Israelis by the locals last  time I visited.... but Chaweng is so empty I didnt see anyone of any nationality! It could have been a movie  set...

 

That happens everywhere. People are for the most part not at all happy with their life but they swallow it. So the smallest thing sets off all the resentment.

5 hours ago, Dustdevil said:

I "loose" my temper internally when I see online that hardly anyone knows how to spell a simple four-letter word like LOSE. We LOSE our keys; we don't "loose" them. Lose a button on your shirt and your collar is loose.

Here is one post i will not loose any sleep over.

5 hours ago, OneeyedJohn said:

^^^  There's no excuse for it, I get angry as hell, and even worse when I see bad grammar, having as I do an 'O' Level in English.

 

I also have an 'O' Level in Mathematics, but I can save that for another thread????.

 

hahahahahaah....I have 6 'O' levels.....4 in maths and 3 others. 

6 hours ago, Dustdevil said:

I "loose" my temper internally when I see online that hardly anyone knows how to spell a simple four-letter word like LOSE. We LOSE our keys; we don't "loose" them. Lose a button on your shirt and your collar is loose.

I'm not posh and proper enough to speak English, I speak Australian and a little Pished  

My Trollometer is ticking like a Geiger counter...

On 7/4/2020 at 4:01 PM, BigC said:

Yes Samui very localized place problem is allot of expats here think they run the place because they can be flash with cash.

 

Don't worry about them not all are like this but I really cannot be bothered  with expats anymore

Also localized island everyone knows everyone's business

Then there are people that need money and start to look for friends  based on what they  can get out  of them

5 hours ago, mike787 said:

They dont like it - LEAVE...get out! 

How? In case you missed it, there are  still air travel restrictions for many countries.

We’ve come to paradise for pussy! 
 

Who gives a tinkers about old, miserable, unfriendly expats. 

2 hours ago, Nemises said:

We’ve come to paradise for pussy! 
 

Who gives a tinkers about old, miserable, unfriendly expats. 

BEST dam post I have read!!!  Agreed!!  Get over you crying babies...like they have never been disappointed. They leave their entitled country for a country they are barely a qualifiable guest with same expectations = FAILURE!  

5 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

How? In case you missed it, there are  still air travel restrictions for many countries.

They can fly home.

4 hours ago, Nemises said:

 

Who gives a tinkers about old, miserable, unfriendly expats. 

Stay clear from anyone you hear muttering "thirtyseven, I only got thirtyseven"

8 hours ago, BigC said:

Also localized island everyone knows everyone's business

Then there are people that need money and start to look for friends  based on what they  can get out  of them

oh how true that is.

I learnt most of the people who were overly friendly in Samui either wanted me to eat or drink in their business or subsidise their drinking or even just survival as you couldn't call what they were doing much more than that 

While I don’t the scientific basis for what you experienced I offer the following observations:

1. Let’s take beautiful women as an example- one day you can go out and don’t see a single pretty girl/ woman. Maybe you go out to the same place 2 or 3 days later and the store, the beach, the area is flooded with beautiful women. Go figure. That is the first phenomenon.

2. The second is things run in 2 and 3s- meaning if you get a traffic ticket after years of not getting any chances are you’ll get a second soon after the first. Anyway that is how things have worked for me and it may explain what you experienced.

Read the threads on this forum. Then run for the hills from most expats.

On 7/5/2020 at 6:19 PM, sampson said:

oh how true that is.

I learnt most of the people who were overly friendly in Samui either wanted me to eat or drink in their business or subsidise their drinking or even just survival as you couldn't call what they were doing much more than that 

I've encountered that many times in Malaysia.

17 hours ago, Onrai said:

While I don’t the scientific basis for what you experienced I offer the following observations:

1. Let’s take beautiful women as an example- one day you can go out and don’t see a single pretty girl/ woman. Maybe you go out to the same place 2 or 3 days later and the store, the beach, the area is flooded with beautiful women. Go figure. That is the first phenomenon.

2. The second is things run in 2 and 3s- meaning if you get a traffic ticket after years of not getting any chances are you’ll get a second soon after the first. Anyway that is how things have worked for me and it may explain what you experienced.

One time about six years ago I was on a flight from Abu Dhabi to BKK. I think it was an Etihad flight, but could have been some other airline. Usually one hopes to see a lot of lovely Thai women on board. There was exactly ONE. All but two or three of the remaining passengers were a large contingent of Arab athletes. Three weightlifters sat directly behind me. They were the noisiest of the lot. Luckily there was plenty of room further back in coach, where I fled without delay. The girl and the other "regular" passenger did the same. 

Anecdotal evidence only. But after visiting Koh Samui several times, I noticed that I had seen more physical violence and alcohol fuelled altercations there more than anywhere else. Noticeable because in 15 odd years, I have barely noticed that kind of behaviour amongst foreigners anywhere else in Thailand.

Five years ago I noticed a big cocaine issue with the expats there.

Seems like some of the posters might mingle with another group of expats on Samui than I do...

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

Seems like some of the posters might mingle with another group of expats on Samui than I do...

I agree KhunPer.

I have been an expat here for twenty years and have never come across cocaine.

Also - never seen 'physical violence and alcohol fuelled altercations'.

I think that some posters only know Chaweng and not Koh Samui.

Have the grumpy olde expats left yet???  

On 7/7/2020 at 1:09 PM, khunPer said:

Seems like some of the posters might mingle with another group of expats on Samui than I do...

Glad you posted this. I started to wonder if there are two Samuis in Thailand. The only over the top idiotic behaviour I have seen has been by intoxicated tourists. Some expats might be on the grumpy side (as that age group tends to be everywhere in the world) but I always had the impression we had it very good here with a rather low population of idiots.

On 7/7/2020 at 3:10 PM, Tropicalevo said:

I agree KhunPer.

I have been an expat here for twenty years and have never come across cocaine.

Also - never seen 'physical violence and alcohol fuelled altercations'.

I think that some posters only know Chaweng and not Koh Samui.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1051566-nigerian-man-arrested-as-samui-police-battle-influx-of-cocaine-dealers/

 

I'm not having a dig at you Tropical...but I've been here 20 years as well, and up until fairly recently there has been regular drugs busts

 

As for 'physical violence and alcohol fuelled altercations'...Solo in Chaweng was pretty much guaranteed to fulfil that need every night...but it wasn't uncommon in Lamai either.

 

I used to live up near you in the pointy end, and even in Fisherman's Village there was always something on the go...we moved to the south of the island and everything is peace and tranquillity down here...but don't tell anyone ????

On 7/6/2020 at 7:19 AM, sampson said:

oh how true that is.

I learnt most of the people who were overly friendly in Samui either wanted me to eat or drink in their business or subsidise their drinking or even just survival as you couldn't call what they were doing much more than that 

I have met some decent expat through the school as we all have our kids in common

 

 

 

Also some Thai parents also

Thankfully I must be one of the luckiest expats living on Samui for 19 years now.

I have met lots of expats from various countries over those years, many of whom I am happy to say have become my good friends and not one of them has turned out to be what the OP calls 'angry'.

Yes of course the strength of the baht is challenging for those in retirement and currently life is difficult for those who own businesses here, nevertheless as friends I find their attitudes, like mine, to be totally positive about living on Samui and have never suggested they have a wish to either 'go home' or move to another country.

I am aware of the seedier side of expat life here and would know which bars to go to should I ever feel the need for illegal stimulants, but having avoided them so far, I doubt I shall need them in the future.

I too have never seen or been involved in "physical violence and alcohol fuelled altercations"  either but don't deny these things happen in some venues of which we are all too well aware. Clue - stay away from them. Samui is not unique in this however.