No mercy! Death sentence handed down to EIGHT Thais despite admissions of guilt

[milys]

3 hours ago, Hayduke said:

 

Appearing ordinary was the critical error....if they all had been driving high end Mercedes' like other important criminals (with motorcycle escorts and maybe wearing official-looking Dr. Evil outfits) they never would have been stopped.

 

 

Hmmm, I don't know about that. A while ago they caught a man dressed as a high police. Even when he was shouting at them and trying to scare them they managed to find a couple of hundred kilos  of ice. I think it depends on what kind of checkpoint it is, army or police. If it's the special Drug Enforcement guys you probably are pretty <deleted>--ed

[fangless]

2 hours ago, Victornoir said:

Death inflicted on willful murderers can be supported.
But not for traffickers and other legal offenses.
The sentence will not be applied and the guilty will be pardoned in 10 or 15 years.
So much the better.

When these traffickers’ customers supply these drugs onwards and their recipients either kill themselves or others are they not also murderers?

 

Also how many murders and serious crimes are committed by the growers/manufacturers/suppliers/traffickers etc to get this cr&p down the chain.  

 

Kill them all off and protect the “yet to use drugs” younger generation prosper!

[Andrew65]

4 hours ago, fdsa said:

I totally agree. Sell harmless drugs like LSD or MDMA, not killing drugs like meth or cocaine.

LSD, harmless??

Charlie Manson was on that stuff.

[Seeall]

4 hours ago, Hayduke said:

 

Appearing ordinary was the critical error....if they all had been driving high end Mercedes' like other important criminals (with motorcycle escorts and maybe wearing official-looking Dr. Evil outfits) they never would have been stopped.

 

 

Ha yes, like  VIP and military people could not possibly carry the virus.....

[Dante99]

36 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

LSD, harmless??

Charlie Manson was on that stuff.

Charlie ate hamburgers too so they must also be dangerous.

[Andrew65]

5 minutes ago, Dante99 said:

Charlie ate hamburgers too so they must also be dangerous.

Burgers didn't turn him nuts????

After saying that, the Tangerine-Terdbucket lives on burgers????

[TERMINATOR3AB]

Recorded  history  shows  life in any  prison know  matter how  hard  can  allow one to adjust  and  get  some quality  of life 

However   if  one  knows  they are going to die   the  mental  trauma is the  cruest thing that can happen  in ones life time  

Death  under law  is the  harshest  punishment possible  life is  not .....one can adjust to life in prison 

Ice  is the  cruelest  most addictive  drug on the planet  it destoys  lives  more  than a thousand  times  any virus  would 

Death  for  that  amount  of Ice  is  definately  the  best  punishment  available 

The  lives that  500 kg  of ice  would destroy  is  uncountable 

Good  work Thailand  (for once anyway)

[mogandave]

3 hours ago, tandor said:

..so, do you think there are un-executed warrants in existence for the manufacturers?

So because you can’t catch them all, you wouldn’t bother with any of them. 

[Morty T]

9 hours ago, Matzzon said:

That will somehow send a little bit of message.

Surely, drunken cocaine induced hit and run. That kills a policeman, no problem there, but drugs...that's bad. The only issue here isn't the legality of what happened, but more to the tune that these people didn't have the financial capability of the former. 

[Grumpy one]

This will be no great loss to the world

[connda]

10 hours ago, Matzzon said:

That will somehow send a little bit of message.

Not at all.  It's not a deterrence in the least. The money in drugs far outweighs the risk for the people who engage in this business. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.  The rewards are huge; the risks are huge if caught.  Zero-sum game.

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, Ireland32 said:

Cocaine kills , Really , your dentist uses it , duh

Wrong Dentist do not use it. This was one of the mistakes that the lawyer of Boss made when he claimed that Boss had just been to a dentist......Duh !

Edited August 29, 2020 by Huckenfell

[connda]

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

LSD, harmless??

Charlie Manson was on that stuff.

As well as that serial killer Timothy Leary.  Oh, and don't forget all the millionaire and billionaire tech gurus who frequent Burning Man yearly.  LSD crazed killers one and all.  Muhhhahhaa.

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, Pib said:

Thailand frequently sentences people to the death sentence but it's rarely carried out as the govt usually commutes it to a life in prison X-years later.  Once commuted then time for good behavior and/or sentence reduction can occur which means the death sentence went to a life in prison sentence then to a lessor sentence....and then release from prison after 10-30 years.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Thailand#:~:text=Thailand retains the death penalty,persons remain on death row.

 

 

This is a good thing , because it gives those who are really  innocent but due to Thai injustice and judicial corruption, e.g  2 Burmese boys from Death Island (Koh Tao) another chance of life and even freedom.

 

 

 

 

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, hansnl said:

Did you take into account that around 5-6 percent of the executed were in fact innocent?

Which actually means the state committed murder?

And do you really have such high regards for the investigators seen the admissions of guilt and the automatic building of the case around the admission?

Innocent people will admit guilt if they know it will avoid getting the death penalty.

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

any high level drug people murdered during the extraductal killings under Thaksin? think you'll find the answer is No

Forget about Thaksin, he was framed as we all know, but has long gone.

 

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

How can you delight in the misfortune of others? 

In my opinion a life sentence is more than enough. 

They will be pardoned for sure, all for show. 

Misfortune  that they got caught, you cannot be serious. What they were trying to do definately justifies the Death Penalty. Just imagine the number of lives that they would have ruined just so that they could make some easy money.

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Don't you believe in rehabilitation? 

It all depends on the crime committed. Sometimes YES but sometimes NO !

[Matzzon]

25 minutes ago, connda said:

Not at all.  It's not a deterrence in the least. The money in drugs far outweighs the risk for the people who engage in this business. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.  The rewards are huge; the risks are huge if caught.  Zero-sum game.

Seems to be nobody understanding what I posted. The meaning was that it sends a clear message that confessing will not give you a smaller sentence.

[Huckenfell]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

You're happy it's not your country? 

Yet happy to live here, I wonder why. 

Come and try it. If you already have , you should know better than ask such a stupid question.   Duh !

[Matzzon]

49 minutes ago, Morty T said:

Surely, drunken cocaine induced hit and run. That kills a policeman, no problem there, but drugs...that's bad. The only issue here isn't the legality of what happened, but more to the tune that these people didn't have the financial capability of the former. 

What´s also obvious is that too many people feel the need to compare all with one thing. Are you thinking it´s better that all gets away then? Sounds like that!

 

Much better to stop comparing and focus on every crime as an individual crime. Just tired over hearing everyone moaning over one guy.

[John CS]

7 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Only to the low hanging fruit

Yep low hanging fruit, this story never gets old, the real criminals the money men or kingpins go free...

the footsoldiers are condemned , satisfies the easy wants for easy justice 

drugs, trafficking are high level organisations , follow the money will never be old

[alyx]

I have always wondered how can one hails another human being's death...I guess I am too much ahead of my time and dark ages  are still omnipresent ????

[commie]

"Boris, don't use idiots for the job" (c) Snatch

[Flying Saucage]

Wait! WAIT!!!! Don't execute them! Better think again!

 

They might be very talented candidates to become ministers in the next junta government!

[JesseHumphry]

Death sentences do nothing to dissuade criminals. The purpose of the guilty plea was to save everyone the trouble. 

All this did was endanger more police officers and increase the potential for more cases to go to trial. 

This doesn't get at the root cause of the problems; but then those hardliners with a passion for blood are just looking for someone to demonize and someone to kill. 

Instead of rehabilitation and job prospects, these Thais are offered a chopping block. That doesn't improve society, it just kicks the can down the road. 

All the data shows that harsher sentencing does absolutely nothing to deter crime. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Zilch. 

Because every criminal thinks they won't get caught. And for a lot of Thais, the options may seem like "Well, sell a ton of drugs, or starve". Nobody rational is selecting "starve" out of the two, and anyone who says they would is lying. 

We are all of us one really bad day away from being in the exact same position. All it takes is a bit of empathy to understand the problem and to tackle drug-related criminal offenses with some level of empathy and logic, but no; lets line them up against the wall, because society has learned nothing, will learn nothing, and is committed to staying firmly against the tide of positive change. 

What a horrific state we live in. 

[Dustdevil]

11 hours ago, Seagull Sam said:

All very gung ho, chest beating stuff. I was attacked by a drug crazed bar girl on my last visit, repeatedly kicking & stamping on my already injured head. Now I have difficulty walking unaided. I know the damage yaba can do. Execution is wrong in all cases, end of. Summary justice? This isn't a John Wayne movie. Or perhaps you would like to live in the Wild West. Howdy partner let's give them thar baddies a woppin! Yee Haa!

I'd suggest reading the last chapter in John Douglas "Journey into Darkness." Long story short, serial killers cannot be rehabilitated and they have forfeited their right to life. Some of them even torture and--yes--eat little children.

[Dustdevil]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Don't you believe in rehabilitation? 

Not for serial killers (assuming the three murders were serial and not a mass murder). They cannot be rehabbed--the FBI has studied serial killers for more than 4 decades. And this guy had the 100 additional crimes. I believe in the mental and spiritual rehabilitation of the victims' loved ones.

[anicon]

... aaaahhh yes the Auroa gold shop heist, I was wondering what happened to that story, so he's getting the death penalty too, but I never did read if they ever recovered the gold that was reported dumped in a river somewhere.. anyone know about that part of the investigation?

[elgenon]

If they are dealing in those quantities you would think they had the money to get themselves excused. Interesting. We'll see what actually happens.