U.S. President Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

[phetchy]

Amid all the threats, assumptions and BS about Trump thinking he can have another four years or more, His being unable to campaign (in person) for the duration of his quarantine might be used by his campaign team to delay the election?  I am not familiar with the Regs for a US Presidential election, but I'd bet my last cent that somehow he will play on this and try to use this in his favour.  I have a nasty feeling that despite the polls and bad TV reviews, he will prevail.  

[J Town]

Just now, phetchy said:

Amid all the threats, assumptions and BS about Trump thinking he can have another four years or more, His being unable to campaign (in person) for the duration of his quarantine might be used by his campaign team to delay the election? 

This one is ez: no.

[wwest5829]

5 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Hopefully trump can use this as an excuse to drop out. He clearly sees how badly he's doing in the polls and if it's one thing he's good at it's running away, bone spurs be damned!

I have cited previously that he should sight health and business needs as to why he cannot "serve" a second term.

[phetchy]

18 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Hope of what, getting away with another scam?

 

Hope of getting a legover.  Not a scam, more a notch on the bedpost.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

4 minutes ago, J Town said:

This one is ez: no.

Hell No...as one guy on here was quoted when the topic was the SCOTUS confirmation hearings and should they be delayed for the elections..."FULL STEAM AHEAD!!!"

 

No so great when the shoe is on the other foot, is it....

Edited October 2, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai

[wwest5829]

5 hours ago, Opl said:

resign, Pence, pardon

After all, it is not like Republicans have not done this before ...

[Neeranam]

40 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I’m an atheist.
 

I no more believe in god than karma. 
 

I was raised as a Catholic and have knowledge of the bible and see how some aspects of it can be applied to our world, but to say it is my book is wrong. It’s just another creation myth. 

Interesting. So you don't believe in Causality, or the 2nd law of Thermodynamics?

[Chomper Higgot]

Let’s see if there is any discussion on Plan B in both Republican and Democrat camps.

 

This is an issue for Biden too because we don’t know when Trump contracted this virus, he may have been infected, and infectious, at the time of the debate.

 

Trump, we are told, is infected, Pence is mixing with the same people, so likely infected and Biden could have been infected by Trump.

 

Be assured, Plan B is being discussed in both camps.

[wwest5829]

5 hours ago, Pib said:

If you mean just giving Biden a bigger victory I doubt it....I doubt any Trump supporters will change their minds about Trump now.  

 

If you mean Pence against Biden I doubt it would be a game changer as Pence has been passively complicit and a sycophant to Trump....a passive Mini-Me of Trump.

Ah, Pence vs Biden? Not in this election, not possible.

[opalred]

just wait /you know he is the lowest of low on the planet /it could be another scam /

he knows he cannot win /showing all polls / could be to get a symphony vote /poor me /then a miracle i am strong and god with me /i am stronger than Biden

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting. So you don't believe in Causality, or the 2nd law of Thermodynamics?

Goodness me....did Buddha or Vishnu?

 

I can just see 'em chatting under the banyan tree.

 

"I say my dear fella..what do think of that rum chap Newton?"

[RocketDog]

36 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

If it turns out that Joe is a super spreader, at least they will have identified something he is good at.

Superlative! Try to blame somebody else for Trump getting a virus he has mocked and ignored from the beginning. His arrogance has caught up with him. 

Nice attempt but you can't expect anything but ridicule for your effort. 

Kudos for working with the only tools you have though. I've watched people try to open paint cans with a nail file. It turns out as expected. 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Odysseus123 said:

Goodness me....did Buddha or Vishnu?

 

I can just see 'em chatting under the banyan tree.

 

"I say my dear fella..what do think of that rum chap Newton?"

They are the same being! 

[MikeN]

1 hour ago, patman30 said:

"The CDC data shows the vast majority have not died with C19 alone"

i did not state what was the actual cause of these deaths
merely stated these deaths were not soley by covid, as CDC data clearly shows
huge difference in my statement????

In your logic, a diabetic who gets run over by a drunk driver dies from diabetes or traffic accident ?

In your logic, somebody with a heart condition gets fatally shot by a robber ...are they a murder victim or "just" a heart attack ?

No matter if the approx 200,000 dead in the USA, or the million+ globally, had pre-existing conditions or not, they were alive until Coronavirus killed them. COVID 19 was the cause of death, not diabetes, or obesity, or lung problems, nor just because they were 60+ years old.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Ah, Pence vs Biden? Not in this election, not possible.

Its possible. 

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting. So you don't believe in Causality, or the 2nd law of Thermodynamics?

The laws of thermodynamics I accept, however they have absolutely nothing to do with any creation myths or other spiritual beliefs. 

Edited October 2, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Pib]

Donald will be fine....as President he has dozens of doctors, nurses, and medical specialist taking care of him 24 hours a day.  Donald has even agreed to wear a mask at the next Presidential debate.

 

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

They are the same being! 

Ah.

 

Have you informed Isaac?

 

A fairly bluddy minded fellow as you know..not to mention a rather quaint obsession with apples which,on any given day,fall upwards...

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, Silurian said:

So how long before the push from the right to postpone the elections?

Push all they want. No way because ... it is not up to a political vote in the Republican majority Senate. The Constitution rules here, it would quite literally need a Constitutional Amendment to change this election and there is no time, never mind no will. Focus on the election, citizens have already begun voting.

[wwest5829]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Its possible. 

No it is not possible under the US Constitution and I am willing to bet my MA+ in History/Education on that. You?

[Maestro]

Trump coronavirus: Timeline of US president's movements with wife Melania before testing positive for COVID-19

Many people were in contact with the president and his wife before their COVID-19 diagnosis was confirmed.

Friday 2 October 2020 11:34, UK

 

Donald Trump and his wife Melania travelled around the US with his aide Hope Hicks before all three tested positive for coronavirus.

 

Here Sky News looks at where the president, the first lady and his closest aides have been in the past week, where they could have contracted the virus and who they might have given it to.

 

Read full story: https://news.sky.com/story/trump-coronavirus-timeline-of-us-presidents-movements-with-wife-melania-before-testing-positive-for-covid-19-12087454

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

No it is not possible under the US Constitution and I am willing to bet my MA+ in History/Education on that. You?

If 45 dies before the election 45 will still be on the ballot but his name will then represent the new president Pence. 

 

A dead man can't be president. 

 

But we'll see what happens. It is what it is.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Jingthing

[J Town]

5 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

No it is not possible under the US Constitution and I am willing to bet my MA+ in History/Education on that. You?

He already recently tried postponing the election (DAMN people have short memories!). As he started spewing that garbage, even Mitch McConnell shut that down. It's in the constitution, the election will happen as scheduled. Even Lincoln had an election during an actual all out civil war.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

He already recently tried postponing the election (DAMN people have short memories!). As he started spewing that garbage, even Mitch McConnell shut that down. It's in the constitution, the election will happen as scheduled. Even Lincoln had an election during an actual all out civil war.

Yes he advocated for it but he can't do it.

[Pib]

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12825996/what-happens-us-presidential-candidate-dies-election-trump/

 

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What happens if a presidential candidate dies before an election? 

If a US candidate running for president dies between the popular vote and the meeting of the Electoral College - the body which is formed every four years for electing the president and vice president of the United States - the parties will try to replace the candidate.

If the candidate that dies is on the winning presidential ticket, it's still the party's responsibility to provide a new candidate who the electorate could vote into office.

The replacement candidate's name would go on the Electoral College ballot only, and their political party would expect its voters to vote that candidate into office.

There's no federal law, however, saying electors have to vote for the replacement candidate.

What happens if a candidate for president is ill before an election?

If a presidential candidate has to withdraw before an election, the party would try to replace that nominee.

In the Democrats, for example, there is a committee called the Democratic National Committee which is given the power to replace a party’s nominee.

That nominee would then have to get on the ballot to represent the party in the presidential election.

The rules for doing this vary in different states - for instance, how much time before an election you must act if you want to replace a nominee.

 

 

[patman30]

20 minutes ago, MikeN said:

In your logic, a diabetic who gets run over by a drunk driver dies from diabetes or traffic accident ?

In your logic, somebody with a heart condition gets fatally shot by a robber ...are they a murder victim or "just" a heart attack ?

No matter if the approx 200,000 dead in the USA, or the million+ globally, had pre-existing conditions or not, they were alive until Coronavirus killed them. COVID 19 was the cause of death, not diabetes, or obesity, or lung problems, nor just because they were 60+ years old.

again you have difficulty reading

i did not state the "cause of deaths"
merely these are not caused soley by covid  ("covid alone")
it makes a huge difference when you actually read my statement as it is written
for which i have provided CDC data as the source

i did NOT mention stuff like, "man shot 7 times by police later dies of covid" did i ?
(such as https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nypd-man-shot-officers-dies-coronavirus-70941694)
 

i did not state that the underlying conditions were the cause of death, did i ?

Please stop acting a fool, when my statement was clear and then explained again slowly for some.

Edited October 2, 2020 by patman30

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 minutes ago, Maestro said:

Trump coronavirus: Timeline of US president's movements with wife Melania before testing positive for COVID-19

Many people were in contact with the president and his wife before their COVID-19 diagnosis was confirmed.

Friday 2 October 2020 11:34, UK

 

No respite from the lunacy:

 

On Tuesday:

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The Trumps' children and senior staff were also part of the party who travelled to the debate and did not wear face coverings during the 90-minute event - violating host rules.

and

 

On Thursday:

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He then gave a live broadcast address to the annual Alfred E. Smith memorial foundation dinner in New York, when he claimed "the end of the pandemic is in sight".

 

[RocketDog]

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

if you believe in Karma, trump will have a massive deficit on his ledger; trump is the epitome of insensitivity to peoples suffering. Personally, for the good of US stability, I wish trump quickly recovers.

I cannot agree with you. He has been a major source of instability. 

Removing him from the picture one way or the other and sooner rather than later can only help the situation. 

Even Pence for the next 4 months would help. 

[bannork]

It's clear Donald and his better half have been suffering from Covid for some time for one of the first things to go is the sense of taste.

 

[Neeranam]

19 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Ah.

 

Have you informed Isaac?

 

A fairly bluddy minded fellow as you know..not to mention a rather quaint obsession with apples which,on any given day,fall upwards...

There are many things the wise know about reincarnation, Charles the future king and Mahatma Gandhi. The WW2 villian and the little guy in Dubai, etc. Similarities and times of birth/death are amazing.