U.S. President Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

[J Town]

7 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Speaking of chutzpah the Republicans after obscenely spitting on our beloved RBG's not yet cold body now have the gall to demand that Biden pauses his campaign indefinitely out of respect to the infected potus. Saying it won't be fair.

That can't be.

The elections must be held on schedule.

In the wider view of things it is not about the personal happenstances of the incumbent president or his opponent.

Yeah, I don't buy that about the Republicans. Nothing comes up remotely close on several search engines.

[jcsmith]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Speaking of chutzpah the Republicans after obscenely spitting on our beloved RBG's not yet cold body now have the gall to demand that Biden pauses his campaign indefinitely out of respect to the infected potus. Saying it won't be fair.

Because his campaign was wreckless the country should go on hold? He mocked his opponent at the debate two days ago for always wearing a mask. He repeatedly downplayed the virus. They constantly mocked Biden for hiding in his bunker while they held rallies packed with people without masks. He is now reaping what he sowed. I hope he is okay but I hope this is a wake up call to people that the virus is real and it is serious. 

Edited October 2, 2020 by jcsmith

[earlinclaifornia]

I am 100% sure trump has helped the seriousness of masks!!!!

[n00dle]

5 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

"From either party due to a virus they refused to take seriously."  Either party?  What the freak?  Uninformed people should not be posting.

But then you would be here alone.

 

 

[Maestro]

Some details I would have liked to see are missing from the article on the Sky News website.

 

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Tuesday 29 Sptember
Mr Trump and his wife travelled on Air Force One with Ms Hicks and the rest of his campaign party to the first presidential debate in Cleveland, Ohio, on Tuesday.

The debate was held with a small audience, but just Mr Trump, Joe Biden and moderator - Fox News anchor Chris Wallace - were on stage. They were both tested beforehand and kept 2m apart at all times - but did not wear masks.

• When (date and time) was Trump's swab taken?
• What was the test result?
• When (date and time) was the result communicated to Trump?

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Wednesday 30 September
On Wednesday, the president and his wife travelled with his campaign party on Marine One and Air Force One to a fundraiser at a private house in Minnesota, before a rally in the city of Duluth.

His aide Ms Hicks is believed to have felt ill on the way home to the White House, so was quarantined on Air Force One on the journey back.

 

• When (date and time) was Hill's swab taken?
• What are the rules in the USA about a person who has been in close proximity with a person with Covid-19 symptoms for a prolonged period? Is such person required to self-quarantine immediately, without waiting for the other person to be tested and the result being known?

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Thursday 1 October
With Ms Hicks self-isolating, the president and the first lady travelled to Bedminster, New Jersey, for a round table event and a fundraiser.

The Trumps arrived back at the White House by 6.30pm, when Mr Trump tweeted to say he would be interviewed on Fox News at 9pm.

Fox News Sunday anchor Sean Hannity interviewed the president, who revealed Ms Hicks had tested positive for COVID-19.

Once the interview was over, Mr Trump tweeted to confirm Ms Hicks's diagnosis and that he and the first lady were now self-isolating.

 

• When (date and time) was Hills positive test result communicated to Trump?

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Friday 2 October
At around 1am on Friday, Mr Trump tweeted to confirm he and Melania have tested positive for the virus.

• When (date and time) was Trump's swab taken?
• When (date and time) was the positive test result communicated to Trump?

[J Town]

3 minutes ago, n00dle said:

But then you would be here alone.

C'mon, try a little harder. Weak tea retorts.

[n00dle]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

C'mon, try a little harder. Weak tea retorts.

Thanks, like you are worth the effort.

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

C'mon, try a little harder. Weak tea retorts.

I agree with a chuckle..

 

Oh Mama,,,????

[cycolista]

40 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

There is nothing in the US Constitution that allows this. In January 2021 this administration ends and the newly elected Presidential candidate takes office. Pence is not one of the candidates. Are you an American? If so you should know this, if not, then it is understandable that you do not know this is not a possibility without changing the Constitution.

This from the Independent.  
 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-coronavirus-election-25th-amendment-covid-electoral-college-constitution-b744823.html

 

 

[Pib]

51 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

I dunno..they got it from Kim Kardashian..who is,I am reliably informed,the only person that you really need to know in the United States.

Kim is over the hill; her sister, Kylie Jenner, is the one you need to know.

[jcsmith]

19 minutes ago, Maestro said:

Some details I would have liked to see are missing from the article on the Sky News website.

Some additional information from Jake Tapper's twitter:
 

 

[Odysseus123]

8 minutes ago, Pib said:

Kim is over the hill; her sister, Kylie Jenner, is the one you need to know.

Curses..I've missed the nouveau riche yet again,

 

I was once having lunch with John Jacob Astor and casually queried .."This ship Titanic..do you really think that she is unsinkable?"

Edited October 2, 2020 by Odysseus123

[Maestro]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

As mentioned on BBC Biden will be concerned as well. He was recently on stage for a long time with 45 distanced but maskless. There was a lot of loud talking. Yes remarkably its certainly possible that the president’s spray infected his challenger.

 

Biden and Trump were tested before the Pennsylvania debate, but we don't know the test results.

[onthedarkside]

A troll post referring to T-D-S has been removed.

 

[onthedarkside]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/pence-coronavirus/index.html

 

 

 

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(CNN)Vice President Mike Pence and second lady Karen Pence tested negative for Covid-19 Friday morning, according to a statement tweeted by spokesperson Devin O'Malley.
 

"As has been routine for months, Vice President Pence is tested for COVID-19 every day. This morning, Vice President Pence and the Second Lady tested negative for COVID-19. Vice President Pence remains in good health and wishes the Trumps well in their recovery," O'Malley wrote on Twitter.

 

 

 

[Maestro]

6 hours ago, steelepulse said:

Looks like Thaivisa has found the golden ticket.  Start any news headline with Trump, and you're sure to get thousands of eyeballs on the pages and said old geezers blood pressure boiling.  

 

Fact check

Who wrote that news headline? Trump did, not Thaivisa.

[onthedarkside]

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Trump's positive Covid-19 test throws country into fresh upheaval

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But the optimistic outlook could hardly veil the pervading sense of destabilization setting in as the country struggles to emerge from a generation-defining crisis just as its politics seem to deteriorate to new lows. Stock market futures tumbled. Inside the White House, aides described a sense of panic as they worked to determine who else may have contracted the disease and whether the President -- who falls squarely within the highest risk category for serious complications and who has been guarded about revealing details of his health -- was displaying symptoms.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/president-donald-trump-coronavirus-positive-test/index.html

 

[onthedarkside]

 

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Mr. Trump, who for months has played down the seriousness of the virus and hours earlier on Thursday night told an audience that “the end of the pandemic is in sight,” will quarantine in the White House for an unspecified period of time, forcing him to withdraw at least temporarily from the campaign trail only 32 days before the election on Nov. 3.

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The president’s physician said he could carry out his duties “without disruption” from the Executive Mansion.

 

 

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Even if Mr. Trump, 74, remains asymptomatic, he will lose much of his remaining time on the campaign trail. If he becomes sick, it could raise questions about whether he should remain on the ballot at all.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-covid.html

 

[shdmn]

Thoughts & prayers and hydroxychloroquine and bleach

Edited October 2, 2020 by shdmn

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, Maestro said:

Some details I would have liked to see are missing from the article on the Sky News website.

 

• When (date and time) was Trump's swab taken?
• What was the test result?
• When (date and time) was the result communicated to Trump?

• When (date and time) was Hill's swab taken?
• What are the rules in the USA about a person who has been in close proximity with a person with Covid-19 symptoms for a prolonged period? Is such person required to self-quarantine immediately, without waiting for the other person to be tested and the result being known?

• When (date and time) was Hills positive test result communicated to Trump?

• When (date and time) was Trump's swab taken?
• When (date and time) was the positive test result communicated to Trump?

All questions that need answering.

 

The current ‘line’ out of the WH doesn’t add up.

[rvaviator]

6 hours ago, xylophone said:

You trump supporters never fail to amaze, by not seeing what is reported in respectable news media and many instances of which have been posted on here, so I'll give you a few clues........ 

 

– trump was ordered to pay back over $2 million to the charities that he filched that money from in order to pay his campaign bills

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– trump has been bankrupted six times or more and in doing so has been able to circumvent the need to pay the everyday working American contractor.

 

– trump utilised illegal immigrant labour on some of his building projects and also paid them well below the going rate – – simply because he could.

 

– getting one's lawyer to pay off one of trumps extramarital affairs, is not a good look for a president.

 

– Denigrating an American war hero, Jon McCain, when trump himself dodged the draft.

 

– Denigrating a disabled reporter in front of the cameras, for a nation to see.

 

– Failing to take action in early January when the Covid 19 virus was reported as being in the USA, however he is now famous for the words, "it's just like the flu" and "we have it under control", and "by April it will go away".

 

– Then of course there is the famous quotes about grabbing women by the ........ssy.

 

I don't really need to go on because you must know about this unless, unless, unless, that is, that you are a trump supporter and can't be bothered dealing with the truth.

Or maybe most of his supporters does not see this as an issue at all .... ???? ....

[ChouDoufu]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All questions that need answering.

 

The current ‘line’ out of the WH doesn’t add up.

 

so given that the lady was showing symptoms on the plane before the debate, that the white house has access to the latest and greatest medical technology, and a multitude of experts on call 24/7......

 

it comes down to what did the president know and when did he know it?

 

i don't imagine his staffers kept hick's positive results from trump to prevent panic.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

so given that the lady was showing symptoms on the plane before the debate, that the white house has access to the latest and greatest medical technology, and a multitude of experts on call 24/7......

 

it comes down to what did the president know and when did he know it?

 

i don't imagine his staffers kept hick's positive results from trump to prevent panic.

Also what is the period between being exposed to the virus and a positive test?

 

In the upside, the animosity between Trump and Biden might be in Biden’s favor to dodge this bullet.

[elliss]

7 hours ago, dabhand said:

Wow.

 

An election game changer?

 _{Yep ,  President  Trump will have my sympathy vote.} 

  _{Didn't  Boris , play this one before ..}

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, n00dle said:

Why not bet something of value?

Cute ...

[wwest5829]

46 minutes ago, cycolista said:

This from the Independent.  
 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-coronavirus-election-25th-amendment-covid-electoral-college-constitution-b744823.html

 

 

American citizens are already voting. No way to replace a nominated party candidate at this point.

[onthedarkside]

 

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Before testing positive for the coronavirus, Trump scoffed at many health guidelines

By Teo Armus

It is behavior that has gotten college students kicked off their campuses, led business owners to be threatened with hefty fines and landed dozens of people in jail. But before announcing his positive coronavirus test result on Twitter early Friday, it was simply the norm for President Trump.
 

In the seven months since the outbreak first spread across the United States, he has flouted seemingly every basic health guideline put forth by his own government in response.
 

He repeatedly refused to wear a face mask and held large rallies with hundreds of supporters who did the same, often in violation of local ordinances. He allowed the White House to continue its daily operations with scant social distancing, exposing himself to dozens of people who had taken few protections against the virus.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/02/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

[ChouDoufu]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Also what is the period between being exposed to the virus and a positive test?

 

In the upside, the animosity between Trump and Biden might be in Biden’s favor to dodge this bullet.

 

more relevant would be what are the isolation and/or quarantine standards for someone who has recently been exposed.

 

quick!  call a radiologist!

[Chomper Higgot]

A penny for Fauci’s thoughts.

[Jingthing]

So we are now after the conventions and before the election. This article explains that if 45 dies the election will be between Biden and almost definitely Pence.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-happens-if-a-presidential-nominee-can-no-longer-run-for-office/