morning all,

at the moment I am averaging 1 bottle of red wine per day.

I know that this is probably too much and i'm looking to cut down..

However, drinking red wine definitely does have health benefits,

so If i am drinking a bottle of red per day,

but I make that bottle last ALL day,,, am I really doing myself harm?

I dont drink to have fun or socialise,

I drink purely to relax.

 

I feel that although some people may think a bottle of red a day is excessive,

the speed at which I am drinking them gives my liver time to breakdown the alcohol and thus minimize the risk of scarring.

 

Am I right??

Any doctors in the house ???? 

If you drink a bottle of wine everyday, you are an alcoholic.

3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

If you drink a bottle of wine everyday, you are an alcoholic.

whats your point?

1 minute ago, Liverpoolfan said:

whats your point?

Being an alcoholic isn't healthy.

Everything is relative. 

Years ago in the Metro in Paris/France there were all over posters with the advice :

 

"Don't drink more than 1 liter wine a day" 

 

Which is more than a bottle. 

2 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Everything is relative. 

Years ago in the Metro in Paris/France there were all over posters with the advice :

 

"Don't drink more than 1 liter wine a day" 

 

Which is more than a bottle. 

A few years ago they had 49K deaths because of alcohol consumption:

 

https://www.thelocal.fr/20130304/alcohol-kills-49000-french-people-a-year

A bottle a day isn't bad, unless its one of those gigantic bottles, about 5 litres worth.

It'll certainly make the doctor stay away if you throw the empties at him (note empties)

here are no positive health benefits to consuming alcohol. 

 

none. please no red wine nonsense. the down side far outweighs any positive affects. 

Drinking a bottle of wine a day can also eventually cause liver damage. How quickly? That depends on your overall health. According to one article, severe alcoholic liver disease is often linked to drinking 20-40 grams of ethanol a day for women, or 40 to 80 grams for men, over 10 to 12 years. A bottle of wine generally has enough ethanol in it to meet, or exceed this level.

So, while you may not see the impact immediately, it’s important to be aware of what effect wine is having on your liver.

 

The above is from a health article.

 

Sounds like you have an expensive unhealthy addiction.  I would seek some help before you have liver failure.

 

 

In what world drinking one bottle of wine a day is a good thing unless your looking for absolution and a reason to continue drinking that much, i'm not a doctor and still can tell you that it is drinking to excess buddy...

I had a friend who bragged about how much he could drink...he moved away but I visited him whilst in the area years later ... he was drinking orange juice...told me hospital saved his life with eighteen pints of blood months earlier.

 

A few months later I heard that he had passed away. 
 

Pickled liver.......

My great grandma survived cancer for four years on a raw egg -+ red wine diet.

This was before the era of modern wine making, I view any cheap wine, red or white, as poison, prefer beer or spirits when I drink, which is seldom. 

55 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:

morning all,

at the moment I am averaging 1 bottle of red wine per day.

I know that this is probably too much and i'm looking to cut down..

However, drinking red wine definitely does have health benefits,

so If i am drinking a bottle of red per day,

but I make that bottle last ALL day,,, am I really doing myself harm?

I dont drink to have fun or socialise,

I drink purely to relax.

 

I feel that although some people may think a bottle of red a day is excessive,

the speed at which I am drinking them gives my liver time to breakdown the alcohol and thus minimize the risk of scarring.

 

Am I right??

Any doctors in the house ???? 

My personal summary is: Do what you like to do. One bottle of wine per day is not a huge amount of alcohol.

If you like to drink it, do it.

If you feel bad about it then drink less or nothing.

But remember, you only live once, enjoy your life the way you want it.

 

And obviously remember

52 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:

Am I right??

Any doctors in the house

No doctor only google.

One bottle of red wine drunk throughout the day I would say is better than drinking whole bottle after a meal.

I drink beer everyday and alcohol in moderation with meals is good for you in many ways IMHO.

That said everyone is different.

https://www.winerist.com/magazine/all/7-unexpected-health-benefits-of-drinking-wine

18 minutes ago, ezzra said:

In what world drinking one bottle of wine a day is a good thing unless your looking for absolution and a reason to continue drinking that much, i'm not a doctor and still can tell you that it is drinking to excess buddy...

What would you call a bottle of vodka or other spirits per day? 

Compared to that a bottle of wine is not much.

46 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:

whats your point?

Don't bother she hasn't got a sensible one. ????

1 hour ago, Liverpoolfan said:

but I make that bottle last ALL day,,, am I really doing myself harm?

I believe it's a GLASS a day keeps the Dr away.

 

As to whether it's harming you there are too many unknowns to answer that. However, drinking less would give you more money to spend on other things.

1 hour ago, Liverpoolfan said:

morning all,

at the moment I am averaging 1 bottle of red wine per day.

I know that this is probably too much and i'm looking to cut down..

However, drinking red wine definitely does have health benefits,

so If i am drinking a bottle of red per day,

but I make that bottle last ALL day,,, am I really doing myself harm?

I dont drink to have fun or socialise,

I drink purely to relax.

 

I feel that although some people may think a bottle of red a day is excessive,

the speed at which I am drinking them gives my liver time to breakdown the alcohol and thus minimize the risk of scarring.

 

Am I right??

Any doctors in the house ???? 

Depends on the size of your bottle.

Alcohol in any format is bad for your liver, that is a simple fact.

2 minutes ago, 4reaL said:

Alcohol in any format is bad for your liver, that is a simple fact.

Drinking wine in moderation with meals can't be fatal or the French would have died out long ago.

45 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

If you drink a bottle of wine everyday, you are an alcoholic.

The definition of an alcoholic is more about the effects that alcohol has on somebody rather than how much they drink, although the two are interrelated.

 

Having been a red wine drinker for some 50+ years, and most of that time, apart from working in alcohol prohibited countries, drinking a bottle of red wine every night with my evening meal, I have reached the grand old age of 73 and according to all the tests I've had done, my liver is fine.

 

As I have said below, the definition of alcoholism is the dependency upon it, or the effects it has on one. I know some people who after a few drinks turn very nasty indeed, to the point of wanting to fight everybody, whereas others just keep drinking until they are physically sick, and those would be described as alcoholics.

 

I remember touring France with French wine importer from NZ and we were standing in a cellar in Beaune sampling some really wonderful burgundies, when in walked this rather rotund and jolly fellow, with rosy red cheeks, and he started chatting away with the younger owner. This turned out to be the father who had initially started the vineyard, and he looked in fine health, and he was 80 years old and regularly worked in the vineyard, and would consume 1 L of red wine every day and had done since he was 15.

 

I will add that since being here and refusing to pay prohibitive prices for wine, I do seek out the better value wines and have cut my consumption down to around half a bottle of red an evening, again with my evening meal, and suffice it to say that I never drink during the daytime and would never consider spending my time on a bar stool here.

 

I don't need to drink alcohol, in fact I don't drink it during the daytime and I enjoy it with the evening meal, and occasionally when I can't be bothered to cook anything, I don't drink it at all, so I'm not dependent upon it and my behaviour doesn't change.

 

Here are some definitions to consider:

– Alcoholism Definition: What Is Alcoholism or Alcohol Use Disorder? Alcoholism is when one can no longer control their use of alcohol, compulsively abuse alcohol, despite its negative ramifications, and/or experience emotional distress when they are not drinking.
– An alcoholic is someone who has a physical and mental dependence on alcohol.
– Fact: Alcoholism is NOT defined by what you drink, when you drink it, or even how much you drink. It's the EFFECTS of your drinking that define a problem.

And this from the Mayo Clinic......Moderate alcohol consumption may provide some health benefits, such as:
Reducing your risk of developing and dying of heart disease.
Possibly reducing your risk of ischemic stroke (when the arteries to your brain become narrowed or blocked, causing severely reduced blood flow)
Possibly reducing your risk of diabetes.
 

#1 If this post in genuine, then I would say anyone with half a brain and no need for a medical degree knows that a bokkle of red a day is unhealthy. Although I do envy Liverpoolfan and know he's moved near me but have so far failed to stalk him.

 

#2 I am sticking my neck out and calling this out as a troll post. Does anyone remember his lockdown post about a bar in Pattaya charging 20p more than advertised or something daft? How is he paying for a bokkle of red every day? I treat myself do an average (600B) bokkle once a month.

3 minutes ago, 2long said:

#1 If this post in genuine, then I would say anyone with half a brain and no need for a medical degree knows that a bokkle of red a day is unhealthy. Although I do envy Liverpoolfan and know he's moved near me but have so far failed to stalk him.

 

#2 I am sticking my neck out and calling this out as a troll post. Does anyone remember his lockdown post about a bar in Pattaya charging 20p more than advertised or something daft? How is he paying for a bokkle of red every day? I treat myself do an average (600B) bokkle once a month.

That's why I stay away from "bokkles" of red wine and only consider bottles of red wine!!????

2 minutes ago, xylophone said:

That's why I stay away from "bokkles" of red wine and only consider bottles of red wine!!????

Me joke you, na. When me drink all of 'it' me gets me mucking words all fuddled.

wine is grape juice. Therefore, youre getting a healthy vitamin c intake. go for it. call it one of your five daily portions. 

Since february I also have been on a bottle of red a day I look in my recycle bin every second wednesday for my tally and this fortnight it is 9 so must be cutting down though it could be on the rise again since finding a very acceptable 13% £3.99 Asda red ????

17 minutes ago, 4reaL said:

Alcohol in any format is bad for your liver, that is a simple fact.

Well no...  Your liver performs many functions and an important one is to isolate any toxins, prior to them being expelled from your body.  Dealing with toxins, such as alcohol is what the liver does all the time.  The problems arise when the level of alcohol is too much for the liver to perform its normal function correctly.  (All this with my scientist hat on...)

Weed everyday also keeps the doctor away...

51 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Drinking wine in moderation with meals can't be fatal or the French would have died out long ago.

And Italians

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What would you call a bottle of vodka or other spirits per day? 

Compared to that a bottle of wine is not much.

Its the number of UNITS OF ALCOHOL that matter. In UK now it is 14 per week recommended for both men & women. Does a bottle of wine or spirit not say how many units inside?