Fourteen day quarantine for tourists set to end - two plans mulled for April 1st start, sources suggest

[SymS]

I still remember the mulling about giving work permits to freelancers, and having permanent residence offered to people buying a condo for 3M+ or 10M+ Baht...

[PatOngo]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

I don't know why these hair brained schemes are ever published before even being presented to someone in a position with the power to authorise its implementation.

Maybe they're hair brained right to the top?

[Guderian]

Ye Gods! They get more desperate and further detached form reality with each passing day!

[PatOngo]

1 minute ago, SymS said:

I still remember the mulling about giving work permits to freelancers, and having permanent residence offered to people buying a condo for 3M+ or 10M+ Baht...

They're good at mulling!

[Cake Monster]

4 hours ago, internationalism said:

so not tourists (expatriates, workers, businessmen), including repatriated thai, will still have to do 14+ days, but tourists only 2 days (probably to wait for a reliable negative results) and let go to any unprepared hotel or let go to mix with a large group of fellow tourists and travel across the country for sightseeing.

and that in the country, which doesn't have a single dose of vax for it's population (bar some 100k front medical workers).

it will be full failure  

I really cannot see that any Government around the World will allow their citizens to Vacate in Thailand at present.

Thailand has Zero Vaccinations of any population. this includes people that will be in close contact with any Tourists , ...The likes of Hotel Staff, Waiters Etc Etc Etc .

With the Major Economies of the World reeling from Covid, the Governments will not open up their Borders to returning Holiday makers that could possibly be carrying Covid back into the Country.

The costs involved are enormous should their be new waves of the Virus for these Countries, who are desperately trying to inoculate their Citizens against the Virus, but even in the fastest Countries to be doing this, there will only be some 20% or so Vaccinated by April 1st.

Meanwhile Thailand as usual is letting others carry their load of responsibility by not Vaccinaing its population

[Spellforce]

8 minutes ago, mike1967 said:

Governments are concerned with new variants. Any country with a population that hasn't been vaccinated will be classed as high risk. The problem isn't how full the hospitals are now.

3 days ago the professor Raoult confirmed that only 1-2% of infected people in the past may catch a new variant of the virus.

Herd immunisation is the key, vaccines are not magical wands: when Pfizer and Moderna will publish the efficiency of their ARN vaccines against the new variants ?

[mike1967]

3 minutes ago, Spellforce said:

3 days ago the professor Raoult confirmed that only 1-2% of infected people in the past may catch a new variant of the virus.

Herd immunisation is the key, vaccines are not magical wands: when Pfizer and Moderna will publish the efficiency of their ARN vaccines against the new variants ?

Before  is one thing, the future is another. As you know, the more people with Covid then the more chance of the virus mutating. Like I say, any government that has carried out countrywide immunisation will see unvaccinated countries as high risk. 

[FitnessHealthTravel]

Mull up mate!

[ttrd]

 

They want to see those who have been vaccinated being allowed to come under two plans that are about to be proposed. 

 

The first is called "Quarantine At Home". 

 

The second plan is called Mobile Quarantine

 

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With other words and as usual, they do not have a clue - neither about what to do nor the difference between theory and practice ... ????

 

In any case it will end up here too that you will accept vaccination passport - not unlike the rest of the world - so no need to try to reinvent the wheel in this matter ...

 

[AlfHuy]

14 days in a high end shopping mall and only buying in "pre-approved shops".

Owned by.....

[Mr lamai]

39 minutes ago, scorecard said:

And who will supervise/monitor/control the 14 days quarantine before they depart for Thailand?

 

Deep state ? Provaxers wet dream! Quarantine will be here for ages!!!

[jaiyen]

So the big day will be April 1st ?  You must be joking !!

[Tambs2020]

4 hours ago, peterdarby said:

Would that be a mulled whine?

possibly..I mean the inventor of spell check died a few years ago..It was reported at the time that he should be allowed to roast in pi_s

[Isaan sailor]

...And the 3rd option they came up with: quarantine with a bargirl (or ladyboy).

 

[Shocked farang]

<fulfil this chaperone-cum-monitoring role. >

Does the chaperone "cum"? 

Did I read this right or am I only dreaming? 

[Spellforce]

26 minutes ago, mike1967 said:

Like I say, any government that has carried out countrywide immunisation will see unvaccinated countries as high risk. 

As professor Raoult said, only 1-2% of infected people can recatch another new variant of the virus.
With a countrywide herd immunisation, if a new variant is imported then the R0 will be extremly low... something as R0 = 0,1 ? It will infect only a few people and disappear quickly.

For those countries, the benefit of reopen the borders will be much higher than the risks: in Thailand, more than 20 millions jobless people VS 80 deaths per year ?
Tourists will also have much less risk of catching a new variant in Thailand than stay at home in their own country.

PS; those 1-2% figures and the so low cases of covid-19 in Thailand (and China etc...)... I'm pretty sure thai people were allready immunized against that covid-19. That virus is coming from animals... There must be a common animal that is living in China, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam ? The covid is not a new virus.

[Shocked farang]

https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/news/pattaya-city-and-koh-larn-hotels-ready-to-accommodate-holidaymakers-344106

[sambum]

"The second plan is called Mobile Quarantine. This idea involves the health department and the TAT acting as chaperones for tour groups."

 

I would rather be chaperoned by Jack the Ripper than TAT - who knows where you could end up regardless of what destination they tell you they are taking you!

[A Los for words]

5 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Well that's this mornings mull, what will this afternoons mull be??? Will there be another mull tomorrow?

I'd like some mulled wine. It would take away the taste of desperately stupid plans.

[A Los for words]

15 minutes ago, sambum said:

I would rather be chaperoned by Jack the Ripper than TAT - who knows where you could end up regardless of what destination they tell you they are taking you!

Jack the Ripper probably doesn't know any tailors or jewel sellers.

[cyril sneer]

even a test was developed that provided an instant negative covid result at the airport they would still require a quarantine

 

sounds ridiculous, but then so are visa runs $$$

[BestB]

Ok, second plan is yup bring back Chinese clearly , first plan how are they planning to control or check if person self quarantined for 2 weeks at home prior to boarding the plane ?

 

if you asked me , sounds like they want to open up under  pretence all precautions taken just to satisfy whoever 

 

in reality , will be just 2 nights quarantine , Covid test and off you go. 

[chilly07]

Beware the UK approach to 'quarantine'. Hundreds of thousands  died and continue to  die  in  that  confusion. They are only just  catching up with  Thailand.  Why would Thailand  ruin their  good  track record. Is someone not making enough money?? 

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Behind the scenes the Tourism Authority of Thailand, the Tourism Ministry, the Tourism Council, ATTA (the Association of Thai Travel Agents and the THA (Thai hoteliers' Association) have been pressing for an end to the two week quarantine that many see as a huge hurdle to the reintroduction of foreign tourism.

All TAT rhetoric and dreams... it will never happen.

[poskat]

I think a better option would be to home quarantine for 7 days before coming here, then its a day in transit to thailand, followed by 2 days in ASQ, and finish up with a slow bus trip from bkk to phuket, and one more day in a phuket ASQ...throw a few tests in on random days, and Bob's you uncle.....easy peasy...

[Jeffr2]

Seriously doubt this will happen. It's not up to the TAT.

[spidermike007]

Being chaperoned around Thailand with an official from the TAT or the Health Department sounds like a true dream vacation. Might as well add in tours of the local hospitals, clinics, and government offices to boot! Lots of fun to be had by all. 

 

A covid vaccination, using one of the top vaccines, like the Pfizer or the Moderna one, should be adequate. The authorities should be begging the tourists to come. Free, unlimited visas, 10,000 baht hotel vouchers, and free meal vouchers. Our people are out of work. We really need you. An immigration officer will come to your hotel to renew your visa, if you decide to extend your stay, to show our appreciation for your support. Half price air tickets for domestic travel. Princely treatment. Thank you so much for helping to rescue our economy and our people.

[bullseye66]

More moronic TAT ideas and suggestions. If it wasn't a serious situation you would just sit back and laugh. They really have NO idea.

[metisdead]

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[Baggy]

4 hours ago, overherebc said:

Mulled whine ????

Didn't the original, mulled wine, involve inserting a red hot poker. Sound like a good idea to stop stupid ideas being considered.

Is whine red or white?