4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You mean he offered a health insurance plan that was beautiful, better, and cheaper? And what about his trillion dollar infrastructure plan? He also promised to crack down on hedge funds and the like.

...and build a wall that the Mexicans would pay for.......and didn't he say he would wipe out the Taliban and ISIS in 100 days?

Just now, david555 said:

If in favor for Trump or against him .... if he should start his own party  .....it would be a disaster for the Republicans to loose  his followers .... so they have a dilemma if they even think of dumping him ......a Pandora box to open .....

 

Just an outsider's opinion ....guy's .... he is a factor in the game with his followers ????

All quite correct....which means the Republicans are dead in the water....they are stuck with him and yet he is too toxic now for normal Americans to even consider voting for him.....if he stays in the running the GOP is doomed.

7 minutes ago, david555 said:

If in favor for Trump or against him .... if he should start his own party  .....it would be a disaster for the Republicans to loose  his followers .... so they have a dilemma if they even think of dumping him ......a Pandora box to open .....

 

Just an outsider's opinion ....guy's .... he is a factor in the game with his followers ????

He is a factor no doubt and is a curse for the Rep Party. The elixir for winning election is to expand your base. With Trump, the party is doing the opposite with the general population and within his own party with his purge of incumbent leaders that don’t kiss his ring. 

Just now, Eric Loh said:

He is a factor no doubt and is a curse for the Rep Party. The elixir for winning election is to expand your base. With Trump, the party is doing the opposite with the general population and within his own party with his purge of incumbent leaders that don’t kiss his ring. 

So was Hillary for the Democrats  ...

 

seems Biden realized that as no politic post for her .....(what i even expected ....) unless still to come ?

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

So was Hillary for the Democrats  ...

 

seems Biden realized that as no politic post for her .....(what i even expected ....) unless still to come ?

Hillary won the popular vote. 
 

Don’t see any role that Hillary can bring positiveness to the Biden administration. 

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Hillary won the popular vote. 
 

Don’t see any role that Hillary can bring positiveness to the Biden administration. 

That's what i meant with my line ...that Biden realized that 

28 minutes ago, david555 said:

If in favor for Trump or against him .... if he should start his own party  .....it would be a disaster for the Republicans to loose  his followers .... so they have a dilemma if they even think of dumping him ......a Pandora box to open .....

 

Just an outsider's opinion ....guy's .... he is a factor in the game with his followers ????

I don't think it would be that bad for the Republicans. This would finally be what the real life situation is already,: a right wing party, Tea party/Trump style, a centrist party with the Rino's and democrats more to the right like Biden cs, and a more left wing democratic party with the likes of Sanders, AOC etc.

Both traditional democratic and Republican party would hevae to reorient themselves.

14 minutes ago, david555 said:

So was Hillary for the Democrats  ...

 

seems Biden realized that as no politic post for her .....(what i even expected ....) unless still to come ?

but but but hillary...

Yours is a very tired, old, and lame deflection.

Just now, placeholder said:

but but but hillary...

Yours is a very tired, old, and lame deflection.

Not while Trump's presidency ..... main reason he got never respected from beginning as president ..... the steaming behind curtains by Democrats started with her defeat ..., and they plaid their cards marvelous right by countering T. in any way ..... and let him become erratic behavior playing on his character.....

 

Machiavelli couldn't have done  it better ????

Doesn't matter,He doesn't have a shot at 2024.The United States sees him for who he really is.Sad Retrumplicans

1 hour ago, david555 said:

Not while Trump's presidency ..... main reason he got never respected from beginning as president ..... the steaming behind curtains by Democrats started with her defeat ..., and they plaid their cards marvelous right by countering T. in any way ..... and let him become erratic behavior playing on his character.....

 

Machiavelli couldn't have done  it better ????

The dems won.

Just now, Sujo said:

The dems won.

So did Machiavelli in his time ....????????

39 minutes ago, david555 said:

So did Machiavelli in his time ....????????

They did not even need to be that smart. From the first day on, Trump has been serving them so many opportunities on a silver platter!

It's been so easy!

2 hours ago, ShindenGo said:

Trump did far worse...He directed and told his supporters to violently overthrow the legally elected President Biden in a violent and bloody insurrection, a coup and a rebellion. 

Can you point out exactly where and when he did this? Verbatim please. I realize the democrats were the victim of fake news when leading democrat figures like pelosi and tame MSM made the claims like yours, backed up by using purposefully edited video. Luckily the disingenuous democrats and their activist media fans were caught out, big time. So either give verbatim proof of Trump saying what you claim without evidence he said, or retract your factually incorrect post. 

 

Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace Before Riot?

The Ruling

True.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-impeachment-video-edited-remove-trumps-call-peace-before-riot-1568084

A series of off-topic, trolling, and bickering posts have been removed along with replies.

 

The topic here is:

 

Trump to proclaim himself the future of the Republican Party in speech

 

Well he claims he is the messiah. But now demoted himself to just the repubs, and a loser at that.

2 hours ago, david555 said:

So was Hillary for the Democrats  ...

 

seems Biden realized that as no politic post for her .....(what i even expected ....) unless still to come ?

Biden is a doddering old fool, but even HE knows better than to attach his name to THAT albatross.

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

The dems won.

Not according to the former president, nor all the duped fans at CPAC.

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

For the immediate future the republican party is stuck with the former president guy. That's an own goal for them. Hopefully the country and the world can be rid of him but thats to be determined. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-is-trapped-in-trumps-rendezvous-with-yesterday/2021/02/28/976e1f70-7a12-11eb-85cd-9b7fa90c8873_story.html

 

 

Opinion: The GOP is trapped in Trump’s rendezvous with yesterday

 

March 1, 2021

 

The act was old. The ­self-involvement was as intense as ever. The lies about the 2020 election continued. 

 

Just read Mary Trumps book, interesting insiders look at the psychopathology of the whole family, including his parents and siblings.

 

2 hours ago, david555 said:

Not while Trump's presidency ..... main reason he got never respected from beginning as president ..... the steaming behind curtains by Democrats started with her defeat ..., and they plaid their cards marvelous right by countering T. in any way ..... and let him become erratic behavior playing on his character.....

 

Machiavelli couldn't have done  it better ????

Let Trump's behavior "become erratic"? Is there any force on earth short of thorazine that could have stopped him?

2 hours ago, david555 said:

Not while Trump's presidency ..... main reason he got never respected from beginning as president ..... the steaming behind curtains by Democrats started with her defeat ..., and they plaid their cards marvelous right by countering T. in any way ..... and let him become erratic behavior playing on his character.....

 

Machiavelli couldn't have done  it better ????

He never got respected because he started telling porkies from day one. Not to mention being a complete jerk. Plus, he lost the popular vote. In the eyes of many, he didn't have a mandate from the majority. Makes sense.

 

Due to Trump, the Republicans lost the house, the senate and the white house. Never happened like this before in modern history. Sticking with Trump is a losing proposition.

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The name is a trusted brand because he ran on promises, and after winning did exactly what he said he would do(never happened before, won't happen again).

"he ran on promises, and after winning did exactly what he said he would do"

Ah yes, I remember those, and on what planet did these promises materialise?

 

On the alternative reality planet, the wall was built AND Mexico paid for it, the trade war he began with China backfired on him and cost the American farmers and public dearly, but on the other planet, everyone was better off, defeating Isis is still in progress, the tax cuts to help the everyday working American certainly benefited his rich cronies and the bankers, but the everyday American hasn't seen any benefit from it, maybe on the other planet perhaps ......and the list goes on.

 

He is a poor excuse for a human being and a compulsive liar to boot, and if he proclaims himself the future of the Republican Party and his supporters are stupid enough to buy that, then they deserve to get kicked in the butt again, just like they did a few months ago, several times over, with losing key states, the House of Representatives and the Senate.

 

He's a loser by his own definition, so why would anyone in their right mind support him.

 

Just now, placeholder said:

Let Trump's behavior "become erratic"? Is there any force on earth short of thorazine that could have stopped him?

i dont know , but any person can be manipulated  to play on personality , one more than another ....., but i think you understand what try to explain .

It is called psychological warfare .... but this than in politic meaning  way ????

 

47 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can you point out exactly where and when he did this? Verbatim please. I realize the democrats were the victim of fake news when leading democrat figures like pelosi and tame MSM made the claims like yours, backed up by using purposefully edited video. Luckily the disingenuous democrats and their activist media fans were caught out, big time. So either give verbatim proof of Trump saying what you claim without evidence he said, or retract your factually incorrect post. 

 

Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace Before Riot?

The Ruling

True.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-impeachment-video-edited-remove-trumps-call-peace-before-riot-1568084

Get your facts straight. He asked for his violent followers to go home AFTER they invaded the capitol building. AFTER. Before that, he egged them on to fight. As did the fake news right wing media outlets.

 

Stunning you aren't aware of this.

 

https://www.abc27.com/news/top-stories/stay-peaceful-president-trump-tells-supporters-to-support-police-as-capitol-is-overrun/

Just now, david555 said:

i dont know , but any person can be manipulated  to play on personality , one more than another ....., but i think you understand what try to explain .

It is called psychological warfare .... but this than in politic meaning  way ????

 

The simplest explanations are the best. Positing an hypothesis that Trump was played is obviously way too complicated. Whereas diagnosing Trump as "malignant narcissist" is obviously a much better fit for the facts.

Just now, placeholder said:

The simplest explanations are the best. Positing an hypothesis that Trump was played is obviously way too complicated. Whereas diagnosing Trump as "malignant narcissist" is obviously a much better fit for the facts.

so in a  certain way you agree that it is very predictable how a person go react if challenged .....  especially a malignant  called narcissist ,as said psychological politic warfare administered on him ...????

 

of course he should had neutralized that , his fault , a little bit more " tuned "Trump would be perfect .....

15 minutes ago, xylophone said:

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The name is a trusted brand because he ran on promises, and after winning did exactly what he said he would do(never happened before, won't happen again).

Trusted brand? Trump University Trump Vodka? Trump steak?

Golf clubs bleeding money, casinos bankrupt( that takes a special talent), debts coming due and banks refusing him extensions on loans, some refusing to deal with him at all. Breaking the law by living at his Florida address, full of ethics and integrity.

 

Sorry xylophone, cannot remove your name from this post.

 

1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said:

Trusted brand? Trump University Trump Vodka? Trump steak?

Golf clubs bleeding money, casinos bankrupt( that takes a special talent), debts coming due and banks refusing him extensions on loans, some refusing to deal with him at all. Breaking the law by living at his Florida address, full of ethics and integrity.

 

I was listening to a podcast today. They commented Trump is potentially making more money than ever from his fundraising. Stunning some fall for the lies.

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

so in a  certain way you agree that it is very predictable how a person go react if challenged .....  especially a malignant  called narcissist ,as said psychological politic warfare administered on him ...????

 

of course he should had neutralized that , his fault , a little bit more " tuned "Trump would be perfect .....

Psychological politics were not played on him, his lack self awareness  to his toxic personality traits from childhood, have been rewarded as failed upwards.  A legend in his own life as millions infected and hundreds of thousands die, incapable of decent decisions and bent on revenge as always, still cannot admit he lost the election. He has always been like it, how many bankruptcies?

 

7 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

I was listening to a podcast today. They commented Trump is potentially making more money than ever from his fundraising. Stunning some fall for the lies.

He is still conning for more money at CPAC asking his supporters for more funds and go to DonaldJTrump.com. Blatant con and his gullible supporters lapping this all up. He is not asking supporters to donate to the Rep Party but to his Save America PAC. You really can’t make this up. This guy is the ultimate conman.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-supporters-money-cpac-speech-b1808998.html