Officials involved in adultery or sexual harassment to be suspended without pay

[webfact]

Thai government officials suspected, with sufficient evidence, of committing adultery, sexual harassment or sexual assault will be suspended from government service without pay, pending investigation, under a new ethical and disciplinary code of conduct approved by the cabinet on Tuesday.

The ethical and disciplinary code, which was proposed by the Office of the Civil Service Commission, also mandates that any government official who uses social media for sexual harassment or other sexual violations will also be subject to suspension without pay.

Deputy government spokesperson Ms. Ratchada Thanadirek said that such offences are regarded as gross breaches of discipline or ethical violations and it is the duty and responsibility of the immediate superior of the official concerned to conduct a fact-finding probe and to take immediate disciplinary action.

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/officials-involved-in-adultery-or-sexual-harassment-to-be-suspended-without-pay/

 

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[RichardColeman]

13 minutes ago, webfact said:

Thai government officials suspected, with sufficient evidence, of committing adultery

Thailand currently is number 1 (Hip hip horray) in the adultery world cup with 56% of married men committing adultery.

If they seriously roll this out then they could lose 56% of their male employees !

 

 

[sanuk711]

Meanwhile those taking bribes-- unofficial payments , Quid pro quo actions, or just traffic fines on the spot------Please carry on.

While the stamp down on , sexual harassment or sexual assault is to be commended.  The 2 consenting Adults "committing adultery" Just brings Thailand into the PC realms, which I was hoping  never to see here.

[ezzra]

So what was the situation like until now ? were the aforementioned people's action were just ignored and their nefarious deeds were just glossed over or ignored i wonder?...  

Edited March 16, 2021 by ezzra

[ukrules]

I didn't realise that 'committing' adultery is in any way a crime.

It's not, is it?

[sammieuk1]

Suspended with a rope is another very popular idea????

[colinneil]

Officials involved in adultery should be suspended, ha ha, who came up with that?

These days not many people are faithful to their spouse.

Sexual harassment totally different, anyone involved in that should be instantly dismissed.

[mtls2005]

This seems like a story better suited for 14 days from tomorrow?

If this is ever enforced, it will only be to get rid of a political opponent.

 

Does this new code of conduct cover "borrowing" watches?

 

[Laughing Gravy]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Thailand currently is number 1 (Hip hip horray) in the adultery world cup with 56% of married men committing adultery.

If they seriously roll this out then they could lose 56% of their male employees !

 

 

I would say that anecdotal evidence from experience speaking to many  Police and other officials the percentage number is even higher with at least one 'mia noi'. To suggest they will be suspended and their pay stopped is well, ludicrous.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

So what was the situation like until now ? were the aforementioned people's action were just ignored and their nefarious deeds were just glossed over or ignored i wonder?...  

Cold>cool>warm>warmer>hot> bingo..... you got it right.

[mikebell]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

a new ethical and disciplinary code of conduct approved by the cabinet

Does it include corruption or is it business as usual?

[Sydebolle]

Let me get the popcorn, yet another showtime element in the never-ending merry-go-round of Thai ideas. 

You cannot arrest 75% of the male population and adultery is a private affair, not related to the performance at work to start with.

But, like absolutely everything else in the land of funny ideas, this will go down as a no-brainer, if there are elements of enforcement then the envelopes changing hands game will be on for a while again. 

[JackGats]

This sounds exactly like #Metoo if it were not for "adultery" being thrown in. In the West adultery is ok coz wymmyns are into it too.

[kensawadee]

It is too bad they didn't start this a few years back   My wife's oldest brother was one of those.... Now he is retired but still an 'ex' RTP <deleted> in Korat....

And then you saw those few in the news on TV Forum recently about RTP killing wives/girlfriends (one burning her body with car tires)...

This stuff goes on all around the world, BUT it seems Thailand has more than their share, with Gov't officials, as my wife's RTP brother, receiving money from traffic stops,  and other 'officials' collecting 'brown envelopes'......

[klauskunkel]

Quote

Officials involved in adultery to be suspended without pay
 

This begets two questions:

1) Is having two wives considered adultery?

2) Is Thammanat Prompao an official?

these two questions beget one answer:

above the law

Edited March 17, 2021 by klauskunkel

[Grusa]

Teachers are Civil Servants. Just saying........

[Taswegian23]

11 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Thailand currently is number 1 (Hip hip horray) in the adultery world cup with 56% of married men committing adultery.

If they seriously roll this out then they could lose 56% of their male employees !

 

 

Maybe. Firstly, I seriously doubt there is a provision for suspension without pay in Thai employment law, same as there isn't in UK law. Might be wrong in which case a more-law-savvy member can steer me in the right direction. An indicatot of this was that Big Joke got a window seat on full pay for transgression which has never stated but which was assumed to be significant - definitely more significant than adultery or sexual harassment.

Secondly, as Richard rightly points out, adultery is an expected fact in Thai society. It's related to the concept of face. Roughly speaking the more mia nois you have, the more powerful you are assumed to be. Sad but true. It's worth remembering that entire society the psychology of the male of the species revolves around the stomach and the organ directly south of stomach. Also, sad but true.

[Enzian]

Well my second marriage/divorce taught me (though I already knew in the abstract) that in no-fault CA adultery is not even a term that exists in the legal lexicon. This is the way advanced societies are or at least should be. But research has indicated to me that "for fault" divorces are possible in Thailand, and adultery is an accepted plea. 

In any case, if this new approach were to stick, there would be a fire sale on mia noi (no plural forms in Thai, right?). I'm not holding my breath.

Edited March 17, 2021 by Enzian
clarification

[AgMech Cowboy]

8 hours ago, ukrules said:

I didn't realise that 'committing' adultery is in any way a crime.

It's not, is it?

It is in most militaries so I would be surprised for it to be so for Government employees (except in California)

[digger70]

10 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Thailand currently is number 1 (Hip hip horray) in the adultery world cup with 56% of married men committing adultery.

If they seriously roll this out then they could lose 56% of their male employees !

 

 

What about all the married women who play second and third wife to other married men. 

What a circus this is in this country.   ????

[Rimmer]

Some posts have been removed, please be very careful what you post on here.

[Emdog]

How many officials actually live off their government pay only?

[RJRS1301]

12 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Thailand currently is number 1 (Hip hip horray) in the adultery world cup with 56% of married men committing adultery.

If they seriously roll this out then they could lose 56% of their male employees !

 

 

So sometimes good things happen. ???? 

[RJRS1301]

3 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

It is in most militaries so I would be surprised for it to be so for Government employees (except in California)

I think it is still on the books in NY.

Only or last place

[spidermike007]

Nothing will happen. 

The real problem is there is no will to go after bad apples, or corrupt authorities, and certainly not the army, or the police. They are all corrupt beyond imagination. And the level of corruption simply escalates, the further up the food chain you go. They police and army are not expected to be honest, and they are not expected to engage in law enforcement, traffic or public safety, on any level. It is an irrevocably broken and dysfunctional system.
 
Anything hyperbole to the contrary, is just a smoke screen, intended to deceive the most naive amongst us.

The Anti-Corruption Organization of Thailand (ACT) is one of the most feeble and ineffective of all the tools Prayuth has used to deceive the people into believing that he is fighting corruption. Who was the last high level authority, in the police, immigration, the army, or the active administration they arrested, charged, tried convicted, and sent to prison? Nobody. Zero. Nunca. Nada.
 
Why? Because Prayuth has had a mandate from the beginning to do the very opposite. To protect the elite, the super wealthy who are guilty, those that are connected, and those who are in power. Just think Dark Tao. Just think Red Bull. The list goes on, and on, and on. Only the most naive amongst us believe he or ACT secretary-general Mana Nimitmongkol are sincere about this.

[kimamey]

This raises a few questions.

What is 'sufficient evidence'?

Will this apply to women as well?

How far up the government chain will this go and will any groups be exempt such as higher up in the police and military?

Whilst I can see the reasoning behind this in regards to sexual harassment is adultery in the same league. It's obviously distressing if you're on the wrong end of it (unless maybe you're also adulterous) but is it that frowned upon in Thailand?

[overt2016]

Here's an idea! Make it a law. Every other law in Thailand is ignored so one won't go astray.

[trainman34014]

Half of the Civil Servants in the country will be out of work without pay shortly then !

[Artisi]

15 hours ago, ukrules said:

I didn't realise that 'committing' adultery is in any way a crime.

It's not, is it?

In Thailand yes or so they think  although "think" is a major stretch..... 

[Artisi]

10 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Let me get the popcorn, yet another showtime element in the never-ending merry-go-round of Thai ideas. 

You cannot arrest 75% of the male population and adultery is a private affair, not related to the performance at work to start with.

But, like absolutely everything else in the land of funny ideas, this will go down as a no-brainer, if there are elements of enforcement then the envelopes changing hands game will be on for a while again. 

If you are going to arrest 75% of the male population  how about the second part of the duo, or isn't there a second party involved?