More COVID cases in Surat Thani?

[ExpatOilWorker]

11 hours ago, khunPer said:

9th September

+12 new cases on Samui,

and

+7 new cases on Tao

Sadly Covid has reached the shores of Koh Tao. Could very well be more than the official 7 cases, but official information is scarce. 

 

 

[phetphet]

6 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Sadly Covid has reached the shores of Koh Tao. Could very well be more than the official 7 cases, but official information is scarce. 

 

 

So it seems as if all the precautions being taken are not working.

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

So it seems as if all the precautions being taken are not working.

Not working 100.0000000%, correct. 

Covid might have been rampant on Koh Tao long time ago without the restrictions. The island have been virtually Covid free for many months, so not a bad run for limited restrictions. 

The latest spell include a captain and the crew of the night ferry. A banking manager from a bank with the capital city's name in it and apparently a lot of migrant workers.

[ExpatOilWorker]

Mass testing on Koh Tao. Very little official news, but rumors have it 10+, possibly 20+ positive, maybe even more.

That is a lot out of a total population of 8,000.

 

 

[khunPer]

13th September
Koh Samui, no new cases reported
Ko Phangan +1 case

Koh Tao +9 cases

[ExpatOilWorker]

33 minutes ago, khunPer said:

13th September
Koh Samui, no new cases reported
Ko Phangan +1 case

Koh Tao +9 cases

Mass testing in Koh Tao.

9 cases or maybe a bit more. All restaurants and cafes only serve takeaway until September 19th.

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

Koh Tao "taxi".

 

[khunPer]

14th Septemer
Samui, no new cases reported
Phangan, no new cases reported

Koh Tao + 4 cases

[ExpatOilWorker]

5 hours ago, khunPer said:

14th Septemer
Samui, no new cases reported
Phangan, no new cases reported

Koh Tao + 4 cases

The navy has the rock surrounded to prevent anyone escaping.

 

[khunPer]

16th September
Samui + 3 cases
Koh Tao +2 cases

[khunPer]

17th September
Samui +9 cases
Koh Tao +5 cases

[khunPer]

Samui: 403 tested Covid-positive from 11,401 tests done over 50 days from 27th July to 17th September, which equals 3.5 percent positive - 46 percent of the positive were vaccinated...

 

[khunPer]

19th September
Samui +1 case
Phangan +1 case
Koh Tao +11 cases

[ExpatOilWorker]

4 hours ago, khunPer said:

19th September
Samui +1 case
Phangan +1 case
Koh Tao +11 cases

Is everything still open on Samui?

Koh Tao is takeaway only and shop at the door.

 

[khunPer]

26 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Is everything still open on Samui?

Koh Tao is takeaway only and shop at the door.

Shops and restaurants are open, but no alcohol serving. Cinema in Lotus's has performances at 1 pm and 4 pm. Bars and nightlife are closed. Voluntary curfew from 11 pm till 4 am, so 7-Eleven and alike close at 10 pm, Hypermarkets and malls open from 9 am till 9 pm.

[khunPer]

20th september

Samui No new cases
Phangan No new cases
Koh Tao +7 cases

[ExpatOilWorker]

5 hours ago, khunPer said:

20th september

Samui No new cases
Phangan No new cases
Koh Tao +7 cases

Test and ye shall find Covid in Koh Tao.

[khunPer]

8 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Test and ye shall find Covid in Koh Tao.

Are there any real evidence at all that disinfection of surfaces reduce spread of Covid..?

[xylophone]

5 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Are there any real evidence at all that disinfection of surfaces reduce spread of Covid..?

The good news from investigations of the coronavirus spread, says Juan Leon, an environmental health scientist at Emory University, is that past studies show common household disinfectants, including soap or a diluted bleach solution, can deactivate coronaviruses on indoor surfaces. "Coronaviruses are enveloped viruses with a protective fat layer," Leon says. Disinfectants tear apart that fat layer, Leon says, which makes coronaviruses "fairly wimpy" compared to noroviruses and other common viruses that have a more robust protein shell. The Environmental Protection Agency has a list of disinfectants that have shown to be effective in fighting coronaviruses.

 

So, how long does SARS-CoV-2 stick around in the air or on surfaces? That depends. According to a preprint posted Tuesday on medRxiv, the virus persists in the air for up to 3 hours and for 2 to 3 days on stainless steel and plastic surfaces. In research published in the Journal of Hospital Infection, researchers found that a related coronavirus that causes SARS can persist up to 9 days on nonporous surfaces such as stainless steel or plastic. And according to reports including one published yesterday in JAMA, SARS-CoV-2 has been detected in feces, suggesting the virus could be spread by people who don't properly wash their hands after using the bathroom. 

 

https://www.science.org/news/2020/03/does-disinfecting-surfaces-really-prevent-spread-coronavirus

[kwilco]

Shows the problem with islands. They are relatively enclosed communities and outbreaks can be intense.

Islands can get a bit smug about being Covid free but infection to some degree is inevitable.

You can never remain Covid free by isolation...in the end you need to vaccinate everyone  or as near as possible  Those unvaccinated are the biggest risk of being spreaders.

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

Shows the problem with islands. They are relatively enclosed communities and outbreaks can be intense.

Islands can get a bit smug about being Covid free but infection to some degree is inevitable.

You can never remain Covid free by isolation...in the end you need to vaccinate everyone  or as near as possible  Those unvaccinated are the biggest risk of being spreaders.

Commuters are the problem, if nobody brings the virus onto the island, the virus is not there.

 

Vaccinated people unfortunately also spreads the virus. Of those tested Covid positive on neighboring Koh Samui 46 percent were vaccinated, so it's about equal, and 3.5 percent of all tested were Covid positive (see earlier post above). Compared to the whole population less than 3.5 percent might be positive, as many of those selected for a test were suspected as carrer the virus.

 

Vaccination protects people from getting sick, or seriously sick, so vaccinated people can unfortunately be asymptomatic carriers of Covid virus.

[kwilco]

17 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Commuters are the problem, if nobody brings the virus onto the island, the virus is not there.

 

Vaccinated people unfortunately also spreads the virus. Of those tested Covid positive on neighboring Koh Samui 46 percent were vaccinated, so it's about equal, and 3.5 percent of all tested were Covid positive (see earlier post above). Compared to the whole population less than 3.5 percent might be positive, as many of those selected for a test were suspected as carrer the virus.

 

Vaccination protects people from getting sick, or seriously sick, so vaccinated people can unfortunately be asymptomatic carriers of Covid virus.

You just don't get it, do you.

Commuters????

There are hundreds of different ways people  and therefore the virus can get onto an island...boats ans supplies have to arrive every day. But because islanders get a false sense of security, once it arrives (inevitably!) then it spreads.

Everything sone says people with the vaccine can get covid, my heart sinks. WE ALL KNOW THAT!

The purpose of the vaccine not only prevents people from getting sick  eg. The islanders  it also prevents some from getting it at all. In the end this shows down transmission. So ve clear vaccinated people are less likely to spread the virus.

Basically like so many in Thailand you are displaying a very limited knowledge of both Covid and vaccines. That is why it's taking so long to get it underway control and tourists dint want to come. Islanders are <deleted>tiing in their own nests.

[khunPer]

4 hours ago, kwilco said:

You just don't get it, do you.

Commuters????

There are hundreds of different ways people  and therefore the virus can get onto an island...boats ans supplies have to arrive every day. But because islanders get a false sense of security, once it arrives (inevitably!) then it spreads.

Everything sone says people with the vaccine can get covid, my heart sinks. WE ALL KNOW THAT!

The purpose of the vaccine not only prevents people from getting sick  eg. The islanders  it also prevents some from getting it at all. In the end this shows down transmission. So ve clear vaccinated people are less likely to spread the virus.

Basically like so many in Thailand you are displaying a very limited knowledge of both Covid and vaccines. That is why it's taking so long to get it underway control and tourists dint want to come. Islanders are <deleted>tiing in their own nests.

"There are hundreds of different ways people and therefore the virus can get onto an island...", yes commuters, which is my point. The virus wasn't here before people brought it in. Don't forget that first Covid-case outside China was detected in Thailand, January 13th 2020, the virus appeared because someone commuted and brought the virus in.

 

The problem at the moment is that science still knows too little about Covid, and unfortunately until now vaccination don't seems to stop vaccinated people to be able to spread the virus.

 

Please note that I made no comments about vaccination, just mentioned some statistic facts - so you are presuming something that you have no evidence to presume - but if you wish to know, I'm in favor of vaccination...????

 

And by the way, mentioned politely, please mind your language...????

 

 

[phills2k1]

Anyone on Koh Tao right?  What's the situation like?  Does it look like this is just sort of a plateau of cases or the calm before the storm?

 

Planning on coming back end of October, spending my first 7 in Samui and then a few weeks on Tao

 

Thanks

[khunPer]

21st september

Samui No new cases
Phangan No new cases
Koh Tao +5 cases

[Tmoney]

15 hours ago, khunPer said:

21st september

Samui No new cases
Phangan No new cases
Koh Tao +5 cases

Incorrect I'm afraid, our neighbour (Samui) was admitted to Nathon hospital confirmed positive for covid.

[khunPer]

23 minutes ago, Tmoney said:

Incorrect I'm afraid, our neighbour (Samui) was admitted to Nathon hospital confirmed positive for covid.

Official stats, your neighbor might be included in tomorrows stats...????

[khunPer]

22nd september

Samui +4 cases
Phangan No new cases
Koh Tao +7 cases

[ExpatOilWorker]

On 9/21/2021 at 9:14 PM, phills2k1 said:

Anyone on Koh Tao right?  What's the situation like?  Does it look like this is just sort of a plateau of cases or the calm before the storm?

 

Planning on coming back end of October, spending my first 7 in Samui and then a few weeks on Tao

 

Thanks

We are in the eye of the storm, but it will most likely blow over by end of October.  Check again later, if we are still alive!

[khunPer]

23rd september

Samui +2 cases
Phangan +1 case
Koh Tao +2 cases

 

24th september

Samui +13 cases
Phangan +1 case
Koh Tao +4 cases