Thailand reports daily record of over 2,000 COVID-19 cases, 4 new deaths

[Pattaya Spotter]

As predicted, we are now seeing a jump in cases probably from the travel and large group and family gatherings over the Songkran. Once we move past this blip, the new infections should return to pre-Songkran levels. 

[ThailandRyan]

8 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

Accept vaccinated travellers with tests, without quarantine. Risk is marginal, as from the statistics above. Start from business travellers first.

 

All variants will be here anyway. Thailand is not a island. People cross the border in jungle, hundreds of them every day. Due to severe enty restrictions migrants enter illegally, thus out of any control. Reducing the restrctions would allow to regain the control, this is quite clear...

 

This virus with its variants will stay and will not go away for years. Economics is of not less importance than health concerns.

Until the Indian Variant hits and seems to not be affected by the vaccines thus the increase in deaths they are seeing.  Purely speculation on your part that reducing rsestrictions would allow the country to gain control.  Dream a little dream, I see you as a person who is undeterred by deaths, and now the younger ages are being affected in greater numbers and they are dying as well.  Stay safe folks.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

As predicted, we are now seeing a jump in cases probably from the travel and large group and family gatherings over the Songkran. Once we move past this blip, the new infections should return to pre-Songkran levels. 

One could only hope as long as they are ensuring testing is done to chase down those that avoid the testing and continue to spread the virus thus causing the disease.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

International and regional COVID comparison charts released today by the Thai Ministry of Public Health, ranking countries based on total numbers of reported cases. Thailand continued to rank 105th in the world based on its total number of cases.

 

 

[Amdesign]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Until the Indian Variant hits and seems to not be affected by the vaccines thus the increase in deaths they are seeing.  Purely speculation on your part that reducing rsestrictions would allow the country to gain control.  Dream a little dream, I see you as a person who is undeterred by deaths, and now the younger ages are being affected in greater numbers and they are dying as well.  Stay safe folks.

 

This is called risk management.

 

More restictions > people start ignoring them. Migrants enter through the jungle as they can't enter legally through the quarantine. This means no control on migrants and no control on infections. Offer test on entering Thailand without quarantine - and some control is back!

 

The illegal migrants can bring any type of infection here. Can't be avoided unless change the apprach.

 

[ThailandRyan]

27 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

8 of 2070, or only 0.39% of infections are from abroad. This means, risk from international arrivals is marginal, compared to domestic cases.

 

Why not open the country for business travellers, without quarantine? At this stage, all import/export/manufacturing businesses suffer from unability to travel (unless one is not a street noodle shop). I am not talking about tourism, I am taloking about all other buisinesses.

 

 

Sure why not open it up to all of the Indian businessmen and let them bring their variant in as well, just like Belgium found out from allowing 10 Indian students to enter the country.  Great and cunning plan you have to ensure the business side of this now gets hit like tourism.  Bravo. Thanks for playing now try again.  I do realize you are just trying to ensure the monetary flows continue instead of them taking hits as well, but only Virtual Business meetings and Zoom meetings should be conducted at this stage.

[anchadian]

Richard Barrow 

 

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Out of the 2,062 local cases, most were in:

 

Bangkok - 740

 

Chiang Mai - 237

 

Chonburi - 125

 

Samut Prakan - 79

 

Nakhon Ratchasima - 69

 

Samut Sakhon - 48

 

Prachuap Khiri Khan - 44

 

Pathum Thani - 41

 

Surat Thani - 38

 

Rayong - 35

 

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New COVID cases reported Friday by province, along with totals since April 1:

 

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

As predicted, we are now seeing a jump in cases probably from the travel and large group and family gatherings over the Songkran. Once we move past this blip, the new infections should return to pre-Songkran levels. 

This "blip" as you call it has been going on for quite some time now. By pre-Songkran levels do you mean >1000 p/d?

[ThailandRyan]

8 hours ago, Amdesign said:

This is called risk management.

 

More restictions > people start ignoring them. Migrants enter through the jungle as they can't enter legally through the quarantine. This means no control on migrants and no control on infections. Offer test on entering Thailand without quarantine - and some control is back!

 

The illegal migrants can bring any type of infection here. Can't be avoided unless change the apprach.

 

 

You have not been around very long then if you believe opening up the borders will keep illegal entrants from coming in to Thailand and they will be able to control it.  I worked for many years in assisting, well trying to at least shut down the human trafficking here and in a few bordering countries, but that went no where, ergo the landing of Thailand on Tier 2 of the Human Trafficking watch list.  This virus is not arriving just from Illegals.

Edited April 23, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comments removed

[Amdesign]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

but only Virtual Business meetings and Zoom meetings should be conducted at this stage.

There are real production businesses involving technical on-site inspections, trials, testing, tuning, maintenance, warranty etc. plus participating in exhibitions. Not the Zoom businesses. All these suffer from the current sutiation, in fact many projects are frozen.

 

Indian variants will come here from Mynamar migrants. And one can't track it as there is no control.

[Marvin Hagler]

13 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

As predicted, we are now seeing a jump in cases probably from the travel and large group and family gatherings over the Songkran. Once we move past this blip, the new infections should return to pre-Songkran levels. 

Uh oh....Anutin has infiltrated Thaivisa

[2 is 1]

8 hours ago, Marvin Hagler said:

Who is to say these numbers haven’t resulted from less tests but a higher infection rate? I do really think the government have no real idea what the situation is or how to manage it. 

Nobody in hole government have no education! They are soldier's! That is the thing what every Thai know's! They dont know how to haddle situations like covid, seems like they also listen some idiot !To where they get information how to haddle ...!

[Amdesign]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I worked for many years in assisting, well trying to shut down the human trafficking here and in a few bordering countries, but that went no where, ergo the landing of Thailand on Tier 2 of the Human Trafficking watch list.  So again go ahead and tell me more.  This virus is not arriving just from Illegals.

OK in this case You should know the numbers of illegal traffic. And can estimate the possible infection rate.

 

For legal arrivals with test certiifcates and now with vaccination, less than 1% later test positive during quarantine in Thailand. This is extremely low numbers compared to illegal traffic and local infections.

Edited April 23, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comments removed

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

There are real production businesses involving technical on-site inspections, trials, testing, tuning, maintenance, warranty etc. plus participating in exhibitions. Not the Zoom businesses. All these suffer from the current sutiation, in fact many projects are frozen.

 

Indian variants will come here from Mynamar migrants. And one can't track it as there is no control.

So your claiming that Thailand has no control, is that what I am hearing from you in your post?  They seem to have a much better control doing it the way they currently are then as you want to do, by just opening up the borders, let them in after a test, and then no quarantine.  You realize that just because you test negative does not mean you may not pop from the virus you may have been infected with two days before.  If you believe that once tested negative you are not a threat, well then I have some ocean front property for you in Nevada, and the London bridge you can buy.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Daily COVID vaccinations report for Thailand, cumulative first and then the most recent day's totals listed below.

 

 

 

 

[petermik]

7 hours ago, Aspaltso said:

It also could be a backlog of cases that weren't reported until now. There's been all kinds of testing going on within the last few days, and some of those results could just be getting posted now.

I traveled back to Pattaya from Huai Yot Trang province yesterday by car a 950kms/12 hour drive....not one single stop for any Covid check along the way......????

[Pattaya Spotter]

12 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This "blip" as you call it has been going on for quite some time now. By pre-Songkran levels do you mean >1000 p/d?

Back in the mid to low three digits. 

[Amdesign]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So your claiming that Thailand has no control, is that what I am hearing from you in your post? 

Exaclty, no control over migrants, and no testing for them. This is confirmed by December spike of infections.

 

Risk management means one compares the risks from factors A, B, C, etc. Factor A is international (business) arrivals with prior test and vaccination certificate. Factor B is illegal migrants without any tests. Factor C is local transmission. Now calculate the risk of each and compare, and make conclusions.

 

In Europe, the contries with high local transmission have quite liberal entry requirements. This is reasonable.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Amdesign

[Nismooo]

52 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

8 of 2070, or only 0.39% of infections are from abroad. This means, risk from international arrivals is marginal, compared to domestic cases.

 

Why not open the country for business travellers, without quarantine? At this stage, all import/export/manufacturing businesses suffer from unability to travel (unless one is not a street noodle shop). I am not talking about tourism, I am taloking about all other buisinesses.

 

 

Are you outside thailand and trying to get in with a business visa?

 

Because other than that i do not see why anyone would come up with such idea at this point. 

 

They should totally close the borders and NOT risk anymore mutations if they even want to have a chance. 

 

Covid did not start in Thong Lor, it came in from multiple other countries before it infected the ”Hi sos”.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Nismooo

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

In another troubling development for Thailand, the government spokesman said today that Bangkok had now seen its first cluster outbreak in an elderly nursing home setting, with two residents becoming infected after contact with a nursing assistant staff member. "It is something of a serious situation that we need to look into," the spokesman said.

 

The Ministry of Public Health said the staff member at the facility, which was not identified, came down with a cough and sore throat symptoms, and was subsequently tested and confirmed to be infected. After that, two residents of the facility likewise tested positive for COVID, an 88-year-old woman and an 84-year-old man.

 

In other countries, nursing home outbreaks involving elderly patients have been one of the main driving factors in high COVID case fatality rates. And thus far in Thailand, many of the reported fatalities have been among elderly residents with various preexisting health conditions, although Friday's reported nursing home cluster in Bangkok was the first nursing home cluster reported by Thai officials.

 

In addition, the spokesman said another cluster had been identified at a Chiang Mai meditation center.

 

[Amdesign]

7 minutes ago, Nismooo said:

Are you outside thailand and trying to get in with a business visa?

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No I am not.

 

Quarantine and entry restrictions would have been reasonable 1) at early days of pandemia when no one knew waht is happening or 2) if Thailand was an island. Now is too late, local transmission is 1000s time higher than imported cases. So why keep killing the economy by the entry restrictions?

 

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by Amdesign

[ThailandRyan]

9 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

In Europe, the contries with high local transmission have quite liberal entry requirements. This is reasonable.

You are hilarious, High local transmission is reasonable.  Pray tell what are you thinking.  The goal that Thailand has had is to shut the virus down as quick as they can, ergo why they hospitalize and isolate all found positive by a test.  I may complain and moan and insist they are not testing enough to find the virus and those infected, but I sure as heck understand what they are trying to do.  I am not a lockdown proponent either, however, it sure seems they do have a modest amount of control, although they blew that with Songkran travel being allowed.  You on the other hand show a lack of comprehending the model they have chosen.  Ad into the equation they have in just over two months vaccinated under a million people with only 20% of them actually having a second vaccination shot. That is a very slow vaccine rollout and until 70 to 80% of Thailand is vaccinated you wont see what you propose happening at all.  Good luck wherever you live and stay safe.  Think outside of the box and look at all sides, Long range planning obviously has not been done by this Government as one can see by all of the Tourists plans that have been continually scrapped. 

[bermondburi]

Ban all sales of alcohol from today.

9pm curfew from tonight.

And anyone who doesn't like it should leave Thailand immediately. 

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Ban all sales of alcohol from today.

9pm curfew from tonight.

And anyone who doesn't like it should leave Thailand immediately. 

Ah a return to 12 months ago.....bittersweet memories

[phills2k1]

1 hour ago, Excel said:

Perhaps they are holding back till Monday so they can say 5000 is not a big deal

 

We were waiting for this idiocy, but little did we know that someone was going to come in here and contend that we should open up the borders to all travelers / variants, because there's a chance the variants get here anyway.  All the while throwing around "risk management", because this is worth the risk

 

I can just picture him during WWII:  "Look guys, there's a chance hitler tries to take over the country anyway, so we might as well just invite the nazis in"

[Amdesign]

7 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

 High local transmission is reasonable?

 

I say that if local transmissions is high, then liberal entry restrictions are reasonable. This means that if the infection rate in country is high already, there is little point to tight control the bring-in cases. This factor will be minor compared to local transmission.

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comments removed

[phills2k1]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

 Think outside of the box and look at all sides, Long range planning obviously has not been done by this Government as one can see by all of the Tourists plans that have been continually scrapped. 

 

This is crazy talk! Clearly all they need to do is open up the borders and the tourists will come flooding back!  I mean, it's not like the Chinese surveyed literally this week said that they won't come back until Covid is under control here or anything...

[2 is 1]

8 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Ban all sales of alcohol from today.

9pm curfew from tonight.

And anyone who doesn't like it should leave Thailand immediately. 

Nothing help needed more hard action! Curfew from 6 pm and even mom&pop shops close! Army on streets to control! Water cannon , teargas + rubber bullets to all who move from home! 

Crazy sht! But something need to do!????

Edited April 23, 2021 by 2 is 1

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Of the four new deaths reported Friday, Thai officials provided the following details:

 

--a 72-year-old man from Bangkok who had a history of visiting Phuket.

 

--a 74-year-old man from Songkhla with preexisting health conditions like high blood pressure and a history of contact with an infected person.

 

--a 29-year-old woman from Samut Prakan who was overweight and had prior contact with an infected person,.

 

--an 83-year-old man from Samut Prakan with multiple preexisting health conditions and prior contact with an infected person.

 

[Nismooo]

1 minute ago, Amdesign said:

No I am not.

 

Quarantine and entry restrictions would have been reasonable 1) at early days of pandemia when no one knew waht is happening or 2) if Thailand was an island. Now is too late, local transmission is 1000s time higher than imported cases. So why kill the economy by the entry restrictions?

 

 

1) Yes agreed, which also did work in the beginning. 

 

2) First of all you do not know the real number of the imported cases, one reason is that quarantine is now only 10 days. Actually quarantine numbers went down after 1st April. Why? Maybe... just maybe because people get released before they can develop enough virus in their bodies? Just a speculation. 

 

Oh yeah, the same week they changed quarantine to 10 days is the same week the new outbreak started... I know, i know Thong Lor cluster and Kolour party but still quite a coincidence if you ask me.

 

However you do have a point that the local transmission is 1000s times higher so it wont make much diffrence in the numbers... at least not right now.

 

But it would make a diffrence long term if we could prevent new mutations that we dont really know much about. Those kind of mutations that could explode in numbers after a few weeks, exactly the same thing that happened this month. 

 

Nobody wants to kill the economy but according a article from TheThaiger, the new covid wave could cause the Thai economy to lose 100 billion bht/month. (Link below)

 

Do you really think you would make up for that by opening up the borders? No

 

And even worse, risking a more severe outbreak and by that totally ruin the economy even more. Not to mention all the lives lost or damaged. 

 

Link to article:

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/new-covid-19-wave-could-cause-the-thai-economy-to-lose-100-billion-baht-per-month