Yesterday I posted maybe >4k even 5k today. Boy was I wrong.

10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are reacting to publication of bad news by the government by claiming they are sweeping bad news under the rug?

 

 

Because it was proved last week thats exactly what they were doing.

4 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Hello, what planet are you living on? Certainly not the same 1 as the rest of us. Surge confined to Bangkok, dream on, 2 young boys in the next Issan village came home for songkran, along with their mother, mother has died with covid, boys in hospital.

There have been relatively few post Songkran cases in the provinces. The Doomsayers told us that millions of people left Bangkok for Songkran, and the result would be catastrophe.

 

What we got were a handful of clusters in some provinces.

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

96 cases in a month is not that many.

 

If the Doomsayers had been more precise in stating that post-Songkran Doom would be 96 cases in a province, they may have seemed more reasonable.

0 is not many. More than that is too much. Apart from that you somehow missed my point that Songkran travel most certainly spread the disease around the country. Something you say didn't happen.

Just now, dinsdale said:

0 is not many. More than that is too much.

Exactly and those that say otherwise or pretend low numbers are not a problem are either trolls on here, mentally challenged or else 5th columnists working for some Thai organisation who hate the truth getting out.

I believe there are people here who's purpose is to get a rise and get the post count up - you know who they are just put them on ignore

 

The number of Covid-19 cases crossed 3.68 million across Southeast Asia on Sunday, with 15,568 new cases reported, lower than Saturday’s 16,990. https://nationthailand.com/international/40000954

Sheep.....you get it NOW?  You'll never get it.......

 

Sheep believe everything online as FACT.  Then later, at the right time, the semi-truth comes out........

 

China maybe at 100 million for all we know......maybe more....it's all a joke if you believe what you read (unless it's from me).

 

Yes, Thailand APPEARS to have done better (since I don't have COVID)......but keep staying safe 

 

I just wish they could test everyone....then we can know.   

 

TVF members in their room saying, "NO COVID in that town!!!!"  lol.  Dude, show me all the negative tests....

 

sheep.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

96 cases in a month is not that many.

 

If the Doomsayers had been more precise in stating that post-Songkran Doom would be 96 cases in a province, they may have seemed more reasonable.

Are you sure your not a love child of Anutin and Prayut born to downplay their mistakes in handling this ?

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

0 is not many. More than that is too much. Apart from that you somehow missed my point that Songkran travel most certainly spread the disease around the country. Something you say didn't happen.

I have said that cases spread by Songkran were not many, compared to what the Doomsayers were saying.

 

If the Doomsayers had claimed a month ago that Songkran travel would bring 40 cases to some provinces, they would have been believed. But, they didn’t. They talked about millions of people traveling from Bangkok to the provinces.

3 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

Sheep.....you get it NOW?  You'll never get it.......

 

Sheep believe everything online as FACT.  Then later, at the right time, the semi-truth comes out........

 

China maybe at 100 million for all we know......maybe more....it's all a joke if you believe what you read (unless it's from me).

 

Yes, Thailand APPEARS to have done better (since I don't have COVID)......but keep staying safe 

 

I just wish they could test everyone....then we can know.   

 

TVF members in their room saying, "NO COVID in that town!!!!"  lol.  Dude, show me all the negative tests....

 

sheep.

 

 

I am in the province of Chonburi, plenty of negative tests every day.

Imagine you overstay your visa or drink with a few mates and they lock you in prison.

Covid will be thrown in as a present.

Can you sue the government for negligence?

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Are you sure your not a love child of Anutin and Prayut born to downplay their mistakes in handling this ?

My interest is not ascribing blame, nobody cares about that.

 

What people care about is the near term course of the pandemic.

My ... comment is that, apart from the big number of cases in the prison system, the biggest problem are the clusters around Bangkok. These will be identified, testing will be conducted, in some places wire fences will be put up, and the clusters will be isolated and eliminated.

 

The rest of the country will slowly return to normal, especially as vaccinations kick in.

 

18 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yesterday I posted maybe >4k even 5k today. Boy was I wrong.

Nobody stated how many tests would be conducted in the prisons. There are easily another 100,000 cases out there, based on what we have seen so far.

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

My interest is not ascribing blame, nobody cares about that.

 

What people care about is the near term course of the pandemic.

Then you and I differ, though i agree its about how we get on with this.

 

However even in Brazil now they are trying to take the president to the courts for his total faillure. Unlike you i like to see people that perform bad be punished. If this pandemic forces out this military government then one thing good came from it.

28 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Last year I was telling my family in UK to stay safe and go out

as little as possible,now they are saying the same message

back to me , the Government has really let the Thai people

down by dithering over ordering  Covid vaccines.  no dithering

when purchasing weapons of war.....

regards worgeordie

 

Don't disagree with your points but even with the current Thai spike there is still not the slightest similarity to peak UK levels of infection.

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Then you and I differ, though i agree its about how we get on with this.

 

However even in Brazil now they are trying to take the president to the courts for his total faillure. Unlike you i like to see people that perform bad be punished. If this pandemic forces out this military government then one thing good came from it.

Brazil has over 15 million cases.

 

Thailand has 100,000, with a third of the population of Brazil.

 

That is the perspective we should keep when assessing blame.

 

 

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

My interest is not ascribing blame, nobody cares about that.

 

What people care about is the near term course of the pandemic.

Apparently it does otherwise you would not be using the term doomsayers, you're just making yourself look stupid and naive at best. Downplaying the effects that Songkran travel had, the 1000's of cases, multiple deaths and economic consequences is pure ignorance. Nobody can take you seriously when you display such irrational and false thinking and statements.

 

Thailand is dealing with a major outbreak, the effects are felt everywhere, I would not downplay the seriousness of this situation. You've proved yourself wrong enough times already. 

 

What's about all the people working at or for the prison system.

Delivery people, people living close by. Taxi drivers who drove visitors to prison.

Visitors of the inmates who later went back home by taxi, motorbike, bts, etc.

They can't be traced.

 

What's about all the Embassy people who go an visit inmates of their country?

All Embassies now locked?

 

Too many questions.

33 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are reacting to publication of bad news by the government by claiming they are sweeping bad news under the rug?

 

 

I think the claim relates to positive cases in prisons over a period of several weeks that were only disclosed when some high profile prisoners were released and found to be positive.

 

the inference is that had those high profile prisoners not been released and their positivity publicized, the government would have continued to not report positive cases in prisons.

 

in a nut shell, bad news would have been swept under the rug but for a twist of fate.

 

it’s not unnatural to now wonder whether there are any further pockets of unreported positive cases in government run institutions. Orphanages, mental institutions come to mind.

29 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Apart from clusters in Bangkok, and in the prison system, the epidemic seems to be receding.

 

I have noticed that there aren’t that many people walking around outside these days. So, people are staying home more, which reduces transmission of the virus.

Receding, really, not sure your looking at the same overall figures the rest of us are.

6 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

Don't disagree with your points but even with the current Thai spike there is still not the slightest similarity to peak UK levels of infection.

yet...

6000 cases of infection in prison.
2000 cases of infection throughout the country.

Hard to believe these numbers.

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

Receding, really, not sure your looking at the same overall figures the rest of us are.

 

 

It is receding in most areas of Thailand - fact.

 

Why deny it?

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Brazil has over 15 million cases.

 

Thailand has 100,000, with a third of the population of Brazil.

 

That is the perspective we should keep when assessing blame.

 

 

Eh... if they had done their job all these lockdowns and damage to the economy would not happen. Songkran played a role and that was clearly the PM his doing. Also the prisons are totally the PM's fault. Don't forget he is the one that took control. So yes we can blame him. If he had his minions (police) better under control. The Thong lor stuff would not have happened and we can blame him for being really late with buying vaccines and making it hard.

 

Yes Brazil is far worse but their leader was a total idiot. That does not mean there is no blame in Thailand. 

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

It is receding in most areas of Thailand - fact.

 

Why deny it?

Its growing in the major economic centers... fact why deny it who cares what happens in the not economic centers. BKK has a huge impact on GDP. 

4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think the claim relates to positive cases in prisons over a period of several weeks that were only disclosed when some high profile prisoners were released and found to be positive.

 

the inference is that had those high profile prisoners not been released and their positivity publicized, the government would have continued to not report positive cases in prisons.

 

in a nut shell, bad news would have been swept under the rug but for a twist of fate.

 

it’s not unnatural to now wonder whether there are any further pockets of unreported positive cases in government run institutions. Orphanages, mental institutions come to mind.

I think it's safe to say that now we know for sure that the govt has been hiding numbers ipso facto the numbers now can not be taken at face value from the very beginning when some of us on here said don't trust the numbers and got poopooed by many.

31 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yesterday I posted maybe >4k even 5k today. Boy was I wrong.

Thanks for underestimating the count ????.   Many of us had a very good idea yet did not post numbers. You are correct also in your view.

Question is, where will all those infected inmates go for treatment?