25 million doses of Johnson & Johnson vaccine ordered for Thailand

[snoop1130]

 

A purchase order for 25 million doses of US made Johnson & Johnson vaccine for Thailand has been signed, according to Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today (Monday).

 

The prime minister revealed the new development when he visited a vaccination site at Bangkok Youth Centre (Thai-Japan), as Thailand began mass inoculations in many parts of the country today.

 

25 million doses from Johnson & Johnson, which was approved by Thailand’s Food and Drug Administration (TFDA) in late March, as well as eight million more doses of China’s Sinovac CoronaVac vaccine are expected later this year, to meet the target of 100 million doses, Mr. Prayut said.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/25-million-doses-johnson-johnson-vaccine-ordered-for-thailand/

 

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[Thailand]

Sign me up-December?

[sathornlover]

8 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Sign me up-December?

[Caldera]

Praise where praise is due, this is big news and could become a game changer.

[Poet]

Delivery schedule "is not yet specified".

So, like any other country, they can submit their order and take their place at the back of the global queue.

Leadership!

 

[sammieuk1]

Signing and talking about signing again and again is not the difficult bit is it ????

[impulse]

The PO has been signed.  Has it been presented to, and accepted by the manufacturer?  Terms and conditions accepted, and delivery specified?

 

[Patong2021]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

Praise where praise is due, this is big news and could become a game changer.

 

The Jansen covid19 vaccine data suggests that it is a 2nd tier quality vaccine. More importantly, the manufacturer is unable to meet quality requirements and production timelines.  "Could have" potential is not acceptable under the present circumstances. Thailand needs an effective vaccine now,

 

The Jansen vaccine does not have date to show that it will work against the new variants, particularly the more infections Delta (Indian) and the new Kent-Indian variant.

1. Efficacy:  For mild to moderate COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was 66.3%

For severe to critical COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was  76.3%
 

For comparison sake; Pfizer vaccine found an efficacy of 95% 7 days after the second dose. Clinical trial data of the Moderna vaccine reported an efficacy of 94.1 %  14 days after the second dose.

 

2. Jansen has been unable to meet production timelines for its non USA clients. For example, it most likely will miss June EU  delivery date ;

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/jj-unsure-meeting-june-covid-19-vaccine-supply-target-eu-nos-2021-05-27/

 

3. Jansen relies on contract manufacturers, some of whom appear to have quality issues. Canada has been sitting on its 300,000 batch received in late April as it continues to  investigate and test quality. That is not a good indication.

 

The vaccine may be  good for use in USA, but this does not mean it is good for use in other country.  It is quite obvious that during the  past 6 months while Jansen was  working on  getting vaccine out, the virus mutated. Due to format of  vaccine, it may no longer be as effective as once hoped. This also holds for similar vaccines like Oxford Astra Zeneca, Russia and China  versions too. Everyone needs to  reformulate and make  new version  and boosters. This is what Oxford Astra Zeneca is doing and will have ready for October. Jansen has made no announcement. I hope is not purchasing the vaccines that USA, Canada, and EU no longer want.

[DrJack54]

As Jerry Maguire would shout....

"SHOW ME THE VACCINE"

[impulse]

9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The Jansen covid19 vaccine data suggests that it is a 2nd tier quality vaccine.

 

The only place Jansen comes up is in the photo and I think that's an editorial "oops".  The text mentions Pfizer and J&J (and Sinovac), not Jansen.

[foreverlomsak]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

The only place Jansen comes up is in the photo and I think that's an editorial "oops".  The text mentions Pfizer and J&J (and Sinovac), not Jansen.

J&J is Jansen.

I will admit nearly all having two names it is confusing, like Sinovac is also known as CoronaVac

[impulse]

1 minute ago, foreverlomsak said:

J&J is Jansen.

I will admit nearly all having two names it is confusing, like Sinovac is also known as CoronaVac

 

So, the editorial oops was on my part.  My bad...

 

[wensiensheng]

Here we go again. 
 

as I said a couple of days ago, get ready for daily announcements of millions of vaccine doses on the way so as to divert from the chaos of no vaccines.

 

today we even had two. 10 mil moderna and now this 25 mil J and J. But nothing likely to be available before the end of this year.

 

pitiful.

[GroveHillWanderer]

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

So, the editorial oops was on my part.  My bad...

 

The parent company is Johnson & Johnson. Janssen (with a double 's') Pharmaceuticals is the arm of J&J responsible for their CoVid-19 vaccine.

[connda]

46 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The Jansen covid19 vaccine data suggests that it is a 2nd tier quality vaccine. More importantly, the manufacturer is unable to meet quality requirements and production timelines.  "Could have" potential is not acceptable under the present circumstances. Thailand needs an effective vaccine now,

 

The Jansen vaccine does not have date to show that it will work against the new variants, particularly the more infections Delta (Indian) and the new Kent-Indian variant.

1. Efficacy:  For mild to moderate COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was 66.3%

For severe to critical COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was  76.3%
 

For comparison sake; Pfizer vaccine found an efficacy of 95% 7 days after the second dose. Clinical trial data of the Moderna vaccine reported an efficacy of 94.1 %  14 days after the second dose.

 

2. Jansen has been unable to meet production timelines for its non USA clients. For example, it most likely will miss June EU  delivery date ;  https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/jj-unsure-meeting-june-covid-19-vaccine-supply-target-eu-nos-2021-05-27/

 

3. Jansen relies on contract manufacturers, some of whom appear to have quality issues. Canada has been sitting on its 300,000 batch received in late April as it continues to  investigate and test quality. That is not a good indication.

 

The vaccine may be  good for use in USA, but this does not mean it is good for use in other country.  It is quite obvious that during the  past 6 months while Jansen was  working on  getting vaccine out, the virus mutated. Due to format of  vaccine, it may no longer be as effective as once hoped. This also holds for similar vaccines like Oxford Astra Zeneca, Russia and China  versions too. Everyone needs to  reformulate and make  new version  and boosters. This is what Oxford Astra Zeneca is doing and will have ready for October. Jansen has made no announcement. I hope is not purchasing the vaccines that USA, Canada, and EU no longer want.

Thailand seems intent on scraping their vaccines from the bottom of the efficacy barrel. 

[wensiensheng]

At this point they are just making stuff up.

 

the pm and health minister have completely different stories. 

[Susco]

I read in the past few weeks that quite a few members were signed up to receive the vaccine today.

 

Look forward to hear how that went, but it's deafening quiet.

[GroveHillWanderer]

27 minutes ago, Susco said:

I read in the past few weeks that quite a few members were signed up to receive the vaccine today.

 

Look forward to hear how that went, but it's deafening quiet.

My wife got her first dose of the vaccine today, right on schedule, at the Hua Hin Hospital. It was AstraZeneca and she's due to get her second dose in September. 

 

I have an appointment to get my first dose on July 6.

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

Efficacy:  For mild to moderate COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was 66.3%

 

[djayz]

To be delivered on 7th June for the big kick-off? 

[rbkk]

2 hours ago, Susco said:

I read in the past few weeks that quite a few members were signed up to receive the vaccine today.

 

Look forward to hear how that went, but it's deafening quiet.

You're looking in the wrong place.

 

[shdmn]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The Jansen covid19 vaccine data suggests that it is a 2nd tier quality vaccine. More importantly, the manufacturer is unable to meet quality requirements and production timelines.  "Could have" potential is not acceptable under the present circumstances. Thailand needs an effective vaccine now,

 

The Jansen vaccine does not have date to show that it will work against the new variants, particularly the more infections Delta (Indian) and the new Kent-Indian variant.

1. Efficacy:  For mild to moderate COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was 66.3%

For severe to critical COVID-19 14 days after vaccination was  76.3%
 

For comparison sake; Pfizer vaccine found an efficacy of 95% 7 days after the second dose. Clinical trial data of the Moderna vaccine reported an efficacy of 94.1 %  14 days after the second dose.

 

2. Jansen has been unable to meet production timelines for its non USA clients. For example, it most likely will miss June EU  delivery date ;

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/jj-unsure-meeting-june-covid-19-vaccine-supply-target-eu-nos-2021-05-27/

 

3. Jansen relies on contract manufacturers, some of whom appear to have quality issues. Canada has been sitting on its 300,000 batch received in late April as it continues to  investigate and test quality. That is not a good indication.

 

The vaccine may be  good for use in USA, but this does not mean it is good for use in other country.  It is quite obvious that during the  past 6 months while Jansen was  working on  getting vaccine out, the virus mutated. Due to format of  vaccine, it may no longer be as effective as once hoped. This also holds for similar vaccines like Oxford Astra Zeneca, Russia and China  versions too. Everyone needs to  reformulate and make  new version  and boosters. This is what Oxford Astra Zeneca is doing and will have ready for October. Jansen has made no announcement. I hope is not purchasing the vaccines that USA, Canada, and EU no longer want.

Can always count on you Thai bashers to try find the cloud in every silver lining.  Such an inspiration.  ????

[RichardColeman]

From link : The timing of Johnson & Johnson deliveries is not yet specified. 

 

2022, 23, 24 ? . 

 

 

[smedly]

6 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Here we go again. 
 

as I said a couple of days ago, get ready for daily announcements of millions of vaccine doses on the way so as to divert from the chaos of no vaccines.

 

today we even had two. 10 mil moderna and now this 25 mil J and J. But nothing likely to be available before the end of this year.

 

pitiful.

100% correct

 

They fumbled around for months and completely dropped the ball on this

 

Now they are trying to cover up their massive failure with media talk and promises 

 

doesn't change exactly where Thailand is on this right now - up #### creek without a paddle while the country is going down the toilet

 

people might critisize the UK and US but boy did they step up and do the right thing (eventually) - the UK is now basically open and almost normal, except for a few ethnic minorities in certain areas refusing to vaccinate and causing a spike in numbers the UK would be mostly back to normal in a couple of weeks  

[smedly]

2 hours ago, shdmn said:

Can always count on you Thai bashers to try find the cloud in every silver lining.  Such an inspiration.  ????

instead of criticizing other posters why don't you offer your own take on how good a job they are doing and why 

 

otherwise ..............................

[oMega69]

This one is the only Vaccine brand i will use . . .
Hope can get this some day in Pattaya later this year . . .

[jacko45k]

9 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The parent company is Johnson & Johnson. Janssen (with a double 's') Pharmaceuticals is the arm of J&J responsible for their CoVid-19 vaccine.

It is worse than all the various accreditations at the start of a movie.....

[mrfill]

10 hours ago, impulse said:

The PO has been signed.  Has it been presented to, and accepted by the manufacturer?  Terms and conditions accepted, and delivery specified?

 

"The cheque's in the post" ......

[mtls2005]

This is a bit confusing.

 

Seen more recent reports since yesterday of 20 MM Pfizer and 5 MM J & J.

 

J & J might be more available given the recent pause/re-start?

 

No clue who will sell these? Private hospitals not part of the Moderna order?

 

 

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

A purchase order for 25 million doses of US made Johnson & Johnson vaccine for Thailand has been signed, according to Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today (Monday).

I wonder who singed it..

Prayuts hand must have been wavering so much, the pen would never have touched the paper.