Thailand reports 5,406 new COVID-19 cases, 22 more deaths

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, club said:

Tourist, consider your selves in prison after reading this. Cancel your trip until this government can get a hold of this pandemic. Its the worse Covid outbreak we have had and now they want Tourist to be a experiment . Come back when they have the proper vaccines for the people  

It won't be tourists that will be coming. It will be folk with serious connection to Thailand. Could be Thai family or similar.

[Blumpie]

5 minutes ago, club said:

2 weeks!!!! They will not let you go into the public if you still test positive after 2 weeks. 

You see?  Unexpected things.  I love it!  I love travelling.  Maybe three weeks in a.... camp.  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

9 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe it's time to stop putting healthy people without symptoms in hospital then and try the somewhat radical approach of only admitting people to hospital that are actually sick.   Just a thought.   

 

There's a continuing misperception about that policy by many here...

 

The government is NOT generally putting COVID positive cases with no symptoms into traditional hospitals, with possible exceptions being those individuals deemed at high risk of deteriorating due to age or other conditions.

 

The government has been putting COVID positive cases with no or minor symptoms into the various temporary field hospital facilities they've set up.

 

If you have more serious symptoms, you're generally going to end up in a regular hospital, not a field hospital. But if you have no symptoms, at least until recently, you'd only end up in a field hospital, not a regular hospital.

 

The MoPH reported the other day they have almost no regular hospital beds remaining in the BKK area for treating seriously ill COVID cases. But at last count, they had something like 5,000 available field hospital beds.

 

Unfortunately, in this instance, the two different types of facilities and beds are not readily interchangeable.

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Where did I ever downplay the human tragedy of the pandemic...all unnecessary deaths are tragic. I'm making the statistical point that the mortality rate in Thailand is still thankfully low and that therefore the situation isn't as worrisome as it could be. It will likely stay this way unless and until there is widespread vaccinations. 

You reduce death and suffering to statistics. I need say no more.

[wensiensheng]

4 hours ago, Anna Rak said:

Can I just say, If there are no beds left in the hospitals for Covid or any other patients why OH! why do you need $100,000 Covid insurance to get a COE. 

 

Just a thought???

I think private hospitals have beds.

[anchadian]

kaewmala  

@Thai_Talk

Rural Doctor Society says Siam Bioscience’s production capacity of AstraZeneca seems to be settling at 15 million doses per month, short of expected 20 mil/month. Of this, only 4 mil doses will go to Thailand per month, far short of expected 10 mil doses/month from July.

 

Jonathan Head

@pakhead

Replying to

@Thai_Talk

This sounds realistic. The government oversold what it could supply, which was a mistake. A new company was bound to encounter some difficulties. Getting sufficient trained staff for vaccine production would have been a challenge.

 

https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1409483416333033472

 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thailand will be seeing more and more of this tragically:

 

Thai doctor on frontline: With Covid patients hospital beds are now in full capacity. More and more non-Covid patients are dying. Some could have been saved. Doctors now have to choose who has a better chance of survival and who has to vacate hospital bed to die at home.

 

https://twitter.com/Thai_Talk/status/1409454024026296322

 

This is when you know it's very bad. Doctors have to make decisions on who gets treated and who is left to die. Triage at the very worst point.

Edited June 28, 2021 by dinsdale

[wensiensheng]

25 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It won't be tourists that will be coming. It will be folk with serious connection to Thailand. Could be Thai family or similar.

I read in another thread that TAT has invited a bunch of tour operators and travel agents from UAE, to visit Phuket. So they will be a fairly big bunch of arrivals. They are on a freebie of course and will stay maybe 3-5 days.

 

it will be interesting to see if they try to be passed off as actual tourists.

[dinsdale]

18 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think private hospitals have beds.

Private hospitals may have beds but not necessarily the equipment or specialised staff.

Edited June 28, 2021 by dinsdale

[club]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is when you know it's very bad. Doctors have to make decisions on who gets treated and who is left to die. Triage at the very worst point.

This is how it was in the USA. Very sad

[AndyFoxy]

1 minute ago, club said:

This is how it was in the USA. Very sad

And India......and many other countries

[FarFlungFalang]

25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

There's a continuing misperception about that policy by many here...

 

The government is NOT generally putting COVID positive cases with no symptoms into traditional hospitals, with possible exceptions being those individuals deemed at high risk of deteriorating due to age or other conditions.

 

The government has been putting COVID positive cases with no or minor symptoms into the various temporary field hospital facilities they've set up.

 

If you have more serious symptoms, you're generally going to end up in a regular hospital, not a field hospital. But if you have no symptoms, at least until recently, you'd only end up in a field hospital, not a regular hospital.

 

The MoPH reported the other day they have almost no regular hospital beds remaining in the BKK area for treating seriously ill COVID cases. But at last count, they had something like 5,000 available field hospital beds.

 

Unfortunately, in this instance, the two different types of facilities and beds are not readily interchangeable.

 

I think these days 5000 empty beds would fill up in about 2 days.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 hours ago, anchadian said:

Out of 5,379 local cases (outside of prisons) most in

 

Bangkok - 1,678

Tak - 453

Samut Prakan - 395

Chonburi - 390

Samut Sakhon - 295

Songkhla - 275

Nonthaburi - 222

Nakhon Pathom - 197

Pattani - 178

Saraburi - 157

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1409387904464392192

 

 

This above is a very bad sign!

 

As the poster knows, for many weeks, it was typical that there were only 3 to at most 4 or 5 provinces reporting more than 100 new cases in a day. Typically it was always Bangkok and then one or two others nearby like Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, etc.

 

Now, in the above report, we have all 10 provinces in the above tweet reporting more than 100 new cases for the day. That's a marked escalation and expansion of the COVID caseloads in places outside of Bangkok and its immediate surroundings.

[wensiensheng]

3 hours ago, James105 said:

 

" If these things work as advertised then it should be easy to point at California or NY and show exactly how well they have done in comparison to Florida or Texas, but of course I know you cannot, which is why you will ignore this."

 

I had a feeling you would ignore this...  

 

 

Yes, follow the example of Florida and Texas.   Don't follow the example of California or NY.      

I think your suggestion is sheer lunacy. I hope the Thai authorities don’t listen to you. THAT would make me consider leaving.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

32 minutes ago, club said:

This is how it was in the USA. Very sad

 

I didn't see it mentioned previously in this thread (so apologies in case I missed it...)

 

But Thailand on Monday also passed a mark that would have been unthinkable in the past -- Thailand actually had more new cases for the day than the entire United States, despite having only about one-fourth of the population!!!   A sign of how the times have changed....

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/353499536268377/?type=3

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bkk Brian]

47 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It won't be tourists that will be coming. It will be folk with serious connection to Thailand. Could be Thai family or similar.

I read that a lot of returning Thai's on repatriation flights that normally go to Bangkok to quarantine first are now going to take up this option as well.

[wensiensheng]

5 hours ago, James105 said:

 

The lockdown started on 5th November and whilst its not as simple as that as there were tiered restrictions in different parts of the UK the cases went up from there peaking in January and sharply declining in March which (and this could be a coincidence) is in line with when other seasonal viruses decline.    

 

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/timeline-lockdown-web.pdf

 

Also, states in the US without lockdowns have fared no differently to states that pursued hard lockdowns.   Also Peru.  

 

Whether you choose to believe that the lockdowns were the "cause" of this decline (despite peaking during lockdown) or whether other factors (seasonality) were relevant is entirely up to you.   To have such a belief in lockdowns despite contrary evidence is quite baffling to me, but considering the human capacity to believe in religion it's not overly surprising.   

Hmm, I don’t see a chart showing UK cases rising during the course of the lockdown. That’s because they initially rose and then as the lockdown worked, cases fell.

 

I have seen on other posts that you suggest the fall could be due to seasonal changes. Fortunately scientific evidence suggests otherwise and hence the very reason why top scientists recommend lockdowns to slow the spread of a virus.

 

I guess I believe in them, more than I believe in you. 

[anchadian]

Thai government to distribute 7.5 billion baht compensation to business sectors affected by Covid-19 business closure orders

 

A budget of 7.5 billion baht is arranged as compensation for all construction workers, entertainment venue entrepreneurs, and restaurant sectors who were affected by the order of business closures in six provinces for a month, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-O’Cha announced this afternoon, June 28th.

 

The Prime Minister told the Associated Press after a meeting with the government’s economic sectors today that 50 percent of the workers’ wages would be distributed for one month as compensation during a construction camp closure in Bangkok and its vicinity.

 

The amount of money would also be planned for affected groups that are related to entertainment venues and restaurant businesses.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/28/thai-government-to-distribute-7-5-billion-baht-compensation-to-business-sectors-affected-by-business-closure-orders/

[wensiensheng]

6 hours ago, anchadian said:

The number of people in ICU and on VENTILATORS:

 

20 June: 1,374/390

21 June: 1,436/395

22 June: 1,479/410

23 June: 1,526/433

24 June: 1,564/445

25 June: 1,603/460

26 June: 1,662/470

27 June: 1,725/489

28 June: 1,806/510 <—- Today #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1409390532174909442

 

Up 30% in 8 days unfortunately. Which suggests worse news will come on deaths in a week or so.

 

 Very sad

[ThailandRyan]

Just saw this posted on a domestic travel site for Thailand 

 

[wensiensheng]

6 hours ago, Polaky said:

Surely they will cancel their sandbox plans now.

I am in Phuket. The lady who owns the bar at the end of my Soi says she has been told she can open on 1st July. Her bar is SHA approved because all bar girls have had one jab.

 

I haven’t heard it officially yet so it currently counts as rumor.

 

but for sure the sandbox will go ahead.

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thai government to distribute 7.5 billion baht compensation to business sectors affected by Covid-19 business closure orders

 

A budget of 7.5 billion baht is arranged as compensation for all construction workers, entertainment venue entrepreneurs, and restaurant sectors who were affected by the order of business closures in six provinces for a month, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-O’Cha announced this afternoon, June 28th.

 

The Prime Minister told the Associated Press after a meeting with the government’s economic sectors today that 50 percent of the workers’ wages would be distributed for one month as compensation during a construction camp closure in Bangkok and its vicinity.

 

The amount of money would also be planned for affected groups that are related to entertainment venues and restaurant businesses.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/28/thai-government-to-distribute-7-5-billion-baht-compensation-to-business-sectors-affected-by-business-closure-orders/

I wonder if the employers still get the money to distribute to the workers even if the employers have gone?Isn't A Nut Man in the construction biz?

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I read that a lot of returning Thai's on repatriation flights that normally go to Bangkok to quarantine first are now going to take up this option as well.

For sure. I had considered returning Thai.

There would be a lot perhaps living in UK, Oz etc with farang husbands and missing family. Couple of weeks in Phuket followed by trip up country or wherever to visit might be a plan.

 

[ThailandRyan]

This is just getting to be a game for this Government isn't it.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 hours ago, anchadian said:

Expats including foreign teachers receive COVID vaccination at Central Phuket as Phuket heads towards the reopening of the island to vaccinated tourists from July 1.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1409402828607541249

 

 

The MoPH had a chart in TH language the other day breaking down the one-shot and two-shot vaccination rates for various provinces/areas through June 24.

 

Some of the specifics included the following shares for fully vaccinated folks up through June 24:

 

--Bangkok and five surrounding provinces -- 6.85%

--Bangkok alone -- 8.95%

--Nonthaburi -- 5.99%

--Samut Prakan -- 3.12%

 

--All other 71 provinces combined outside the BKK region -- 1.98%

--Phuket -- 49.86%

--Surat Thani -- 4.6%

 

--Thailand wide as of the 24th -- 3.4%

(As of today, the Thailand wide number has probably grown to just over 4%)

 

 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

I am in Phuket. The lady who owns the bar at the end of my Soi says she has been told she can open on 1st July. Her bar is SHA approved because all bar girls have had one jab.

 

I haven’t heard it officially yet so it currently counts as rumor.

 

but for sure the sandbox will go ahead.

It might go but I would question the ahead part.If it was going down I probably wouldn't question it?

[FarFlungFalang]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

This is just getting to be a game for this Government isn't it.

It always has been it's just being exposed for all to see.

[club]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

I am in Phuket. The lady who owns the bar at the end of my Soi says she has been told she can open on 1st July. Her bar is SHA approved because all bar girls have had one jab.

 

I haven’t heard it officially yet so it currently counts as rumor.

 

but for sure the sandbox will go ahead.

See that's the problem . The government seems to think all you need is one jab of Sinovac or AZ and you will be just fine. The real sad reason is they wont spend the money to FULLY vaccinate everyone in Phuket. Even in this Phuket sandbox where all eyes will be on them they still dont get it. This will not end well. Enjoy the Covid 19 box 

[club]

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The MoPH had a chart in TH language the other day breaking down the one-shot and two-shot vaccination rates for various provinces/areas through June 24.

 

Some of the specifics included the following shares for fully vaccinated folks up through June 24:

 

--Bangkok and five surrounding provinces -- 6.85%

--Bangkok alone -- 8.95%

--Nonthaburi -- 5.99%

--Samut Prakan -- 3.12%

 

--All other 71 provinces combined outside the BKK region -- 1.98%

--Phuket -- 49.86%

--Surat Thani -- 4.6%

 

--Thailand wide as of the 24th -- 3.4%

(As of today, the Thailand wide number has probably grown to just over 4%)

 

 

so Phuket is not even close to 70% fully vaccinated

[Daithi85]

Just now, club said:

See that's the problem . The government seems to think all you need is one jab of Sinovac or AZ and you will be just fine. The real sad reason is they wont spend the money to FULLY vaccinate everyone in Phuket. Even in this Phuket sandbox where all eyes will be on them they still dont get it. This will not end well. Enjoy the Covid 19 box 

Going to very interesting to see what happens to the first group of tourists that test positive for covid.  ????.