Thai Medical Council supports free mRNA vaccination for all Thais

[snoop1130]

A medical staff member administers a dose of the Covid-19 coronavirus CoronaVac vaccine at a newly-opened vaccine clinic in Central Ladprao shopping mall in Bangkok on May 12, 2021. (Photo by Lillian SUWANRUMPHA / AFP)

 

The Thai Medical Council is urging the public and private sectors to procure sufficient effective COVID-19 vaccines as quickly as possible and to make sure that all Thais have access to the vaccines free of charge, as mandated in the Constitution.

 

In a statement, issued Thursday night, the Thai Medical Council, led by Honorary Professor Dr. Somsri Phaosasawad, voiced its full support for the procuring various makes of mRNA vaccines,which are efficacious against mutated virus variants, to be administered to frontline medics and members of the public without charge.

 

The council also urged the provision of free access to COVID-19 testing for anyone who needs the service, so that they can gettreatment if they test positive for the disease.

 

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[Excel]

Meanwhile the rest of the Thai government, elite and the puppet master are planning on their next party days 

[tonray]

Perhaps they should have to Wai the foreigners whose governments donated the vaccines just before getting in line for the shot...it's the least we deserve since we can't get any ourselves.

[Mavideol]

Thai Medical Council supports free mRNA vaccination for all Thais

 

wonder what that means as pretty much everybody and anybody is saying the same and yet nothing is moving forward.... could it be the comments are "hitting" the wall or falling on deaf ears

[misterjames]

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Thai Medical Council, led by Honorary Professor Dr. Somsri Phaosasawad, voiced its full support for the procuring various makes of mRNA vaccines

More sensible voices it's time for the government to listen to the experts and do right by the Thai people, they need to stop wasting money on Sinovac that nobody wants.

[welshguy]

Nice sentiments..

 

Pity though , this wasn't said months ago...before they started dishing out the (pitifully slowly) Sinovac vaccines.

[2 is 1]

Situation in Europe!

https://qap.ecdc.europa.eu/public/extensions/COVID-19/vaccine-tracker.html#uptake-tab

 

Also many other information if want watch! Link above.

[connda]

Thai Medical Council supports free mRNA vaccination for all Thais

Free Sinovac for all dirty foreigners.

[internationalism]

there are only 2 mrna - pfizer and moderna.

china is also working on one, but might never materialise.

only GPO can import them (chulabhorn with sinopharm is an exception).

Since the very beginning of year private hospitals made attempts, to be immediately torpedoed by dr Mengele.

 

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2 hours ago, misterjames said:

More sensible voices it's time for the government to listen to the experts and do right by the Thai people, they need to stop wasting money on Sinovac that nobody wants.

Which is why they keep on buying more of it?

[misterjames]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Which is why they keep on buying more of it?

It doesn't take Detective Poirot to work out why.

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2 minutes ago, misterjames said:

It doesn't take Detective Poirot to work out why.

And the number of vaccinated keeps on increasing. It would just take someone reasonably proficient in arithmetic to figure that one out.

[djayz]

46 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And the number of vaccinated keeps on increasing.

A bit pointless if the vaccination being administered isn't 

efficacious against mutated virus variants. 

 

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1 hour ago, djayz said:

A bit pointless if the vaccination being administered isn't 

efficacious against mutated virus variants. 

 

It depends on what you mean by "efficacious" Efficacious against transmission? Efficacious against the development of serious symptoms? Efficacious against death?

[misterjames]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

It depends on what you mean by "efficacious" Efficacious against transmission? Efficacious against the development of serious symptoms? Efficacious against death?

You don't know the efficacy for any of these scenarios against the delta variant.

 

So this is just another pointless post. 

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Just now, misterjames said:

You don't know the efficacy for any of these scenarios against the delta variant.

 

So this is just another pointless post. 

As I have frequently noted. people tend to confuse the colloquial use of "efficacy" and "effectiveness" and, presumably "efficaciious" in this case, with the technical medical use of the 2 terms. For instance there are lots of people who assume that because Sinovac had an efficacy of 51% in one trial, that means that it is not extremely useful in protecting against the more serious consequences of earlier variants of Covid 19. Some people even question the results of  virtually every large scale study of its performance against earlier variants.

[smedly]

I noticed that 2 people actually "liked" this topic 

 

everyone in Thailand needs to be vaccinated not just Thais 

 

 

it is shocking that anyone on a farang forum could possibly support this very blatent discrimination - shameful 

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4 hours ago, connda said:

Thai Medical Council supports free mRNA vaccination for all Thais

Free Sinovac for all dirty foreigners.

Not true. If a dirty foreigner is over 60, then it's the AZ vaccine for them. God how they hate us!

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, Excel said:

Meanwhile the rest of the Thai government, elite and the puppet master are planning on their next party days 

July 15th, all off to Samui.....

[poohy]

15 hours ago, Mavideol said:

Thai Medical Council supports free mRNA vaccination for all

Who writes stuff there i have amended  it

They really do believe they are the master race although saying that the grubbyment has proved intelligence is not a forte

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Thai Medical Council is urging the public and private sectors to procure sufficient effective COVID-19 vaccines as quickly as possible and to make sure that all Thais have access to the vaccines free of charge, as mandated in the Constitution.

And screw the foreigners.

[RubbaJohnny]

Pity they didn't say all people in Thailand, the bug isnt as racist as the regime. In that case who know western nations may be encouraged to donate sooner than give 3rd booster top ups. The window of opportunity is slim before the winter season in the N Hemisphere.I fear thousand will die quitely in the villages from lack of vax and grinding poverty due to unemployment and debt.

 

Usage shold be vulnerable first medics, sick of course not caddies golf is not an essential activity during a global pandemic.Those who are insistent swingers carry your own mashies.

 

Then the poor

Like democracies by age range

 

Of course here  some powerful will get the good stuff early and no empathy for the foreign workers in camos or the unpaid construction labourers.

 

If only there were some weathy kind people at the top who know that when you fix a car you listen to a mechanic when you fix a body you listen to the Drs the experts.

 

[RubbaJohnny]

18 hours ago, misterjames said:

It doesn't take Detective Poirot to work out why.

The lidl grey snails suggest Easy PC in reverse n'est-ce pas Captain hostings?

Edited July 10, 2021 by RubbaJohnny
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[James105]

Crikey.   If the UK health authorities had announced that "all British citizens would get free vaccines" ignoring citizens of other countries residing in the UK there would have been British people on the streets marching through London denouncing the government for being racist and nationalist.  The silence is deafening over here with these kind of announcements.  Maybe something got lost in translation?   

Edited July 10, 2021 by James105

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36 minutes ago, James105 said:

Crikey.   If the UK health authorities had announced that "all British citizens would get free vaccines" ignoring citizens of other countries residing in the UK there would have been British people on the streets marching through London denouncing the government for being racist and nationalist.  The silence is deafening over here with these kind of announcements.  Maybe something got lost in translation?   

Of course, what you neglect to note, is that there would have been a huge contingent of Little Englanders cheering the govt. on.

[tomazbodner]

Now that more or less all the serious vaccines are approved for emergency use in Thailand, and there are situations in many countries in the West where citizens refuse to be vaccinated, it would make sense to go to these countries' governments (like US, EU) and ask to buy their vaccines that are at least 1-2 months from expiry and air-lift them in for immediate administration. Several countries are dumping vaccines as they are expiring. This should be win-win.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Of course, what you neglect to note, is that there would have been a huge contingent of Little Englanders cheering the govt. on.

Really? What makes you think that?

[Flying Saucage]

On 7/9/2021 at 4:04 PM, internationalism said:

there are only 2 mrna - pfizer and moderna.

china is also working on one, but might never materialise.

only GPO can import them (chulabhorn with sinopharm is an exception).

Since the very beginning of year private hospitals made attempts, to be immediately torpedoed by dr Mengele.

 

Not entirely correct and complete:

 

- The Pfizer vaccine is not really Pfizer. It is a 100% development and innovation of BioNTech in Germany, and besides the two directors, who are very good scientists of Turkish descent, they have Ms Katalin Kariko from Hungary under contract. She is, together with Prof. Drew Weissman from the US, seen as THE inventor of mRNA technology. Likely these two will get the Nobel Price for Medicine this year, I guess.

 

- Pfizer came into the game only mid of 2020, when BioNTech needed a testing, production and marketing partner to satisfy the huge demand.

 

- This vaccine is produced in plants of Pfizer in Belgium, BioNTech in Germany, and Pfizer in the US. Till end of May ALL doses supplied internationally outside of the US, including COVAX, came from Europe only, as the US blocked all exports of vaccines.

 

- One minor shareholder of BioNTech is the Chinese company Fosun Pharma. They are currently building a factory together with BioNTech (not Pfizer) in China and will start production relatively soon, o a few months. This vaccine will have the same quality as the BioNTech-Pfizer everywhere else.

 

- By the way, one reason why Taiwan has such a low vaccination rate is that for contractual reasons BioNTech is not allowed to supply to Taiwan. Taiwan is under Fosun Pharma, and we all know the political implications.

 

- Another factory of BioNTech is planned in Singapore as announced around 2 months ago.

 

- More interesting info about BioNTech you can find on Wikipedia.

 

- There is one more mRNA vaccine besides BioNTech-Pfizer and Moderna. This vaccine is from Curevac, Germany. Unfortunately this vaccine failed to meet the minimum standards to get an approval, so far, as the efficacy was shown to be below 50%, and, as far as I remember, 53 % for people under 60. This surprising and bad news were published around 6 weeks ago.

 

- But, this efficacy of Curevac is at least tested with all current mutants, and therefore definitely better than Sinovac.  And exactly this was the main reason why Curevac failed so far: The vaccine was originally developed against the original virus from Wuhan, as all other vaccines as well, but due to the delays phase 3 of the tests was done against all the mutants and not against the original virus. Today many people suspect that another mistake was that Curevac simply applied a too small volume per dose. A slightly bigger volume might have had a complete different result.

 

- One interesting point about Curevac is that this company was seen as leading in mRNA technology in 2020, ahead of BioNTech. Donald Trump even wanted to buy the company early 2020, but the German government avoided this by investing 300 million Euro in the company. Unfortunately, the leading scientist and founder Mr. Ingmar Hoerr suffered a very severe stroke last year, which might be one reason why the company failed. 

 

However, interestingly Curevac made several contracts with Bayer, GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi many months ago, and they have been producing huge numbers of doses ever since which are available on stock. And they are still continuing to produce, because they see a big demand from third world countries coming. One advantage of their mRNA vaccine is that it does not require cooling. Also, by the way, they are already working on a second generation to cover Delta and Gamma better.

 

I had a lot of hope in Curevac, but they simply had very bad luck. For Europe and the US they are not of interest anymore after the bad efficacy was published.

 

But last week I heard rumours that Thailand is negotiating with Curevac now. Let's see if an emergency approval might be possible. CureVac is not an optimal vaccine right now, but at least they have a lot of potential for the future. And personally I am sure it is better than Sinovac. And also, big numbers of doses are available immediately.

 

 

Edited July 10, 2021 by Flying Saucage

[rabas]

4 hours ago, Flying Saucage said:

But last week I heard rumours that Thailand is negotiating with Curevac now. Let's see if an emergency approval might be possible. CureVac is not an optimal vaccine right now, but at least they have a lot of potential for the future. And personally I am sure it is better than Sinovac. And also, big numbers of doses are available immediately.

CureVac's trial has not gone well. Making a highly effective mRNA vaccine is not a trivial exercise.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01661-0

 

"The company behind the beleaguered trial, CureVac, based in Tübingen, Germany, announced preliminary data on 16 June from a 40,000-person trial, which showed that its two-dose vaccine was just 47% effective at preventing disease."

Edited July 10, 2021 by rabas

[mtls2005]

Might as well throw in a free pony, for all the good these "words" will do.

 

Where was

 

On 7/9/2021 at 5:23 PM, snoop1130 said:

Honorary Professor Dr. Somsri Phaosasawad

 

six months ago?

 

Cowering in fear of the regime, not speaking out then.

 

Buffalo.