webfact Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Picture: REUTERS/Chalinee Thirasupa Thailand on Tuesday (July 20) reported 11,305 new COVID-19 cases and 80 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. ● 10,710 new infections ● 595 prison / prison infections Tuesday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 426,475 with 3,502 deaths. (Total infections since April 1: 397,612) The news comes as Thailand's COVID-19 task force on Monday called on people to follow stricter containment measures, warning that without cooperation record daily infection rates could roughly treble to reach 30,000 under a worst-case scenario. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-07-20 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 After four successive days of new record high COVID cases, Thailand’s daily tally of new cases and deaths lessened slightly on Tuesday, even as projections showed higher totals ahead and the government imposed added restrictions trying to stem the tide. Thailand on Tuesday reported 11,305 new COVID cases, down from the latest pandemic record 11,784 the day before. The country also reported 80 new COVID deaths, down from 81 the day before. Such brief pauses have been common early in past weeks, with case counts then resuming their upward climb. The latest numbers brought Thailand to having reported more than 11,000 new cases per day for the last three straight days. The new COVID cases reported Tuesday, Thailand's third highest total ever, included 10,710 among the general public and 595 new cases from the nation’s prisons With Tuesday’s update, Thailand now has cumulative totals of 426,475 COVID cases and 3,502 deaths since the start of the pandemic in early 2020. Overall, Thailand's current level of daily COVID cases has doubled from the 6,000-range in daily cases of just two weeks ago. The government Monday released one forecast with a worst case scenario of nearly 32,000 new cases per day, and a mid-range scenario of up to 24,000, by the end of October. A Krungsri Research forecast showed the pandemic in a base case peaking at more than 15,000 daily cases by August, but also modeled a worst-case outlook of nearly 25,000 per day by then. Thus new government restrictions are taking effect today and are slated to continue at least thru August 2 in Bangkok and a dozen other hard-hit provinces. The aim is to slow the spread of the virus by broadening an existing overnight curfew and a new order telling residents in those provinces to stay home as much as possible. The government first imposed the curfew and various other restrictions on 10 provinces including Bangkok early last week, saying it would reconsider after two weeks. But COVID cases then rose about 35 percent from about 8,600 then to nearly 12,000 per day now, forcing the government to toughen its rules and add three additional provinces including Chonburi. Another major change is coming Wednesday, with a separate government order halting regular commercial domestic air flights into and out of Bangkok and the other dozen restricted provinces. Exempted would be flights to/from Phuket and Samui that recently have begun allowing only fully vaccinated tourists. A COVID outbreak that once was centered mainly in Bangkok and several adjoining provinces lately has spread nationwide, with all of Thailand's provinces often reporting new cases daily. As of Monday, 32 of 77 provinces reported more than 100 new cases for the day, led by Bangkok with 2,134. Health experts said the rising COVID cases and death tolls in Thailand have been spurred by the highly contagious Delta (India) variant of the coronavirus that’s now become dominant in the country. The pandemic has led to increased poverty, rising unemployment and simmering protests against the government. In recent days, the COVID situation has shown signs of beginning to spiral out of control, with the government getting battered on the streets, in the news and in public opinion polls over the growing crush of cases and Thailand’s slow vaccination rollout, with only about 5 percent of Thais fully vaccinated thus far. Over the weekend, thousands of political activists who oppose the military led government took to the streets in Bangkok and other cities to protest over the dearth of vaccines. Crowd control police responded with tear gas, water cannons and rubber bullets, according to news reports. Leaked memos made headlines showing the government had been slow months ago to finalize contractual commitments for enough doses of its own locally produced version of the AstraZeneca vaccine, allowing a larger share to be exported and leaving Thailand with far less than it had promised the public. The country’s health care system has been hit almost to the breaking point by the broadening pandemic. Thailand on Tuesday again reported new record highs for active COVID cases hospitalized (126,765) and the share of those in critical condition (3,711). The number of critical patients on ventilators declined by one to 855 amid Tuesday's 80 new deaths. Total COVID hospitalizations have almost doubled in the past two weeks, and the share of those in critical condition has doubled in the past three weeks. As of Monday, Thailand's tally of critical condition COVID patients had risen to new daily records for the past 31 days in a row. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/368286208123043/?type=3 https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/368286131456384/?type=3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Rules regarding residents: https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/368557161429281 Rules regarding businesses: https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/368557871429210 The Latest Lockdown & Curfew Rules Effective Today (July 20): Continue to apply to Bangkok, five adjoining provinces (Nahon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon) and four southern provinces (Narathiwat, Pattani, Songkhla and Yala) that already had many of them since last Monday, along with three newly added provinces today (Chonburi, Ayutthaya and Chachoengsao). These are called “dark red” zone provinces. --Continue daily curfew between 9 p.m. and 4 a.m. --Residents now ordered not to leave their homes other times except for necessities such as work, food shopping, health care, vaccinations, etc. -- Public gatherings of more than 5 people still banned. --Government/private sector work from home still encouraged. --Highway checkpoints set up to discourage travel out of dark red zone provinces. Public asked to register online in advance any such trips to obtain a QR code document. --Passengers on bus and rail lines limited to 50 percent of maximum capacity (also nationwide), and public transport remains closed during the overnight curfew times. --General department store, shopping center, and community mall shops remain closed, except for the following that can open until 8 p.m. -- supermarkets, takeout food outlets, banks & financial institutions, pharmacies, building supplies, postage/parcel & mobile phone related shops. --No sit-down restaurant dining allowed. Takeout food & beverage service allowed till 8 p.m. Delivery services allowed outside of curfew hours. --Bars and night clubs remain closed, and on-site alcohol consumption remains forbidden. Massage parlors and spas remain closed. --Convenience stores & night markets remain closed 8 p.m. to 4 a.m. --Classroom instruction remains shut down, but online learning is allowed. --Essential venues can remain open including hospitals, clinics, factories, drug stores, banks, gas stations, postal services and mobile phone shops. In Bangkok at least, parks still can remain open until 8 p.m. daily. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Reactive rather than logical proactive measures form the basis of Thailand's containment measures and as a result has led to the Delta wave blast through Thailand with over 63% of this killer found in all positive test results. Meanwhile, Taweesin Wisanuyothin, a spokesman for the country's COVID-19 task force, told a briefing. Of a worse case scenario of 30,000 cases a day, "I do not want that projection to happen," he said. "We have seen over 10,000 cases for many days and we want this to come down. But no one can do this alone and everyone has to help," he said." Everybody has to help yes but effective measures have to be implemented first. 11,305 positive cases today with 595 of those from prisons, 80 deaths Rolling 7 day average (up to 18th July only) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 #COVID19 Update on Tuesday: 11,305 cases & 80 deaths (595 cases from prisons). Full details at 12:30pm #Thailand 16 July: 9,692 - 67 dead 17 July: 10,082 - 141 dead 18 July: 11,397 - 101 dead 19 July: 11,784 - 81 dead 20 July: 11,305 - 80 dead <— TODAY https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1417286534395437076 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 537 new cases and one more death. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (88), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (193), and Si Racha (137). The total cases so far is now 16,527 with 7,052 remaining in care https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1417278727122165788 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) Cases and deaths going down both countrywide and in Chonburi. Edited July 20, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter 3 7 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: After four successive days of new record high COVID cases, Thailand’s daily tally of new cases and deaths lessened slightly on Tuesday, even as projections showed higher totals ahead and the government imposed a new set of restrictions trying to stem the tide. Thailand on Tuesday reported 11,305 new COVID cases, down from the latest pandemic record 11,784 the day before. The country also reported 80 new COVID deaths, down from 81 the day before. Such modest reductions have been common on early days of the week in recent weeks. The latest numbers brought Thailand to having reported at least 10,000 new cases per day for the past four consecutive days. The new COVID cases reported Tuesday included 10,710 among the general public and 595 new cases from the nation’s prisons With Tuesday’s update, Thailand now has cumulative totals of 426,475 COVID cases and 3,502 deaths since the start of the pandemic in early 2020. Overall, Thailand's current level of daily COVID cases has doubled from the 6,000-range daily cases of just two weeks ago. The government Monday released one forecast with a worst case scenario of nearly 32,000 new cases per day, and a mid-range scenario of up to 24,000, by the end of October. A Kasikorn Research forecast showed the pandemic in a base case peaking at more than 15,000 daily cases by August, but also modeled a worst-case outlook of nearly 25,000 per day by then. As a result, new government restrictions are taking effect today and are slated to continue at least thru August 2 in Bangkok and a dozen other hard-hit provinces. The aim is to slow the spread of the virus by broadening an existing overnight curfew and a new order telling residents in those provinces to stay home as much as possible. The government first imposed the curfew and various other restrictions on 10 provinces including Bangkok early last week, saying it would reconsider after two weeks. But COVID cases then rose about 35 percent from about 8,600 then to nearly 12,000 per day now, forcing the government to toughen its rules and add three additional provinces including Chonburi. Another major change is coming Wednesday, with a separate government order halting regular commercial domestic air flights into and out of Bangkok and the other dozen restricted provinces. Exempted would be flights to/from Phuket and Samui that recently have begun allowing only fully vaccinated tourists. A COVID outbreak that once was centered mainly in Bangkok and several adjoining provinces lately has spread nationwide, with all of Thailand's provinces often reporting new cases daily. As of Monday, 32 of 77 provinces reported more than 100 new cases for the day, led by Bangkok with 2,134. Health experts said the rising COVID cases and death tolls in Thailand have been spurred by the highly contagious Delta (India) variant of the coronavirus that’s now become dominant in the country. The pandemic has led to increased poverty, rising unemployment and simmering protests against the government. In recent days, the COVID situation has shown signs of beginning to spiral out of control, with the government getting battered on the streets, in the news and in public opinion polls over the growing crush of cases and Thailand’s slow vaccination rollout, with only about 5 percent of Thais fully vaccinated thus far. Over the weekend, thousands of political activists who oppose the military led government took to the streets in Bangkok and other cities to protest over the dearth of vaccines. Crowd control police responded with tear gas, water cannons and rubber bullets, according to news reports. Leaked memos made headlines showing the government had been slow months ago to finalize contractual commitments for enough doses of its own locally produced version of the AstraZeneca vaccine, allowing a larger share to be exported and leaving Thailand with far less than it had promised the public. The country’s health care system has been hit almost to the breaking point by the broadening pandemic. Thailand on Monday again reported new record highs for active COVID cases hospitalized (122,097), the share of those in critical condition (3,595), and the share of critical patients on ventilators at 856. Total COVID hospitalizations have almost doubled in the past two weeks, and the share of those in critical condition has doubled in the past three weeks. As of Monday, Thailand's tally of critical condition COVID patients had risen to new daily records for the past 30 days in a row. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/368286208123043/?type=3 https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/368286131456384/?type=3 you write very fast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Interesting. Again lower community numbers and higher prisoner numbers. Maybe just a coincedence. Thailand should now be No.52 on the covid charts and should take 50th spot or above by the end of the wk. Thailand is in the top ten for new infections and remains in the top 20 for weekly trends. Prayut let it run and run it has hence the meterioc move up the covid charts with a bullet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dan42 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 The crisis is over. Open the gogobars!!!!!! 1 1 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 The government keeps admonishing people to cooperate but what else can they do? I wonder if traditional measures like hand washing and masks are less effective against the Delta virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Cases and deaths going down both countrywide and in Chonburi. For one day!Isaan is still rising, but I guess it's more Lao than Thai and not regarded by some to be part of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyIdea Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wasabi said: The government keeps admonishing people to cooperate but what else can they do? I wonder if traditional measures like hand washing and masks are less effective against the Delta virus? The Delta virus load is clearly higher, hence more contagious. I've seen no research but it would IMO make sense that masks and hand washing still work but less effectively. Edited July 20, 2021 by MikeyIdea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 The WHO has identified four such variants of concern: Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta; and four variants of interest: Eta, Iota, Kappa and Lambda. Among the four variants of concern, Delta is believed to be the most transmissible variant yet. The Delta variant is estimated to be between 40 and 60 percent more transmissible than the Alpha variant, which was first detected in the UK, according to a number of studies. #WHO #COVID19 #Strains #Variantsofconcern #Variantsofinterest #Studies #coronavirus #pandemic https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158149714292050 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, dan42 said: The crisis is over. Open the gogobars!!!!!! Lets make a policy for those that want the gogo bars open, first get infected by covid delta. Then wait for recovery or death (i mean you have to take some risk for the fun your getting). Then get a card with I had covid im safe now and let them open for those with those cards. Double success guaranteed those wanting fun don't need vaccination and a large part will realize the disease is worse then they thought and some will confirm Darwins Theory. But for the rest the strong they can have all the fun they want ???? This was meant in jest for those who don't have their sarcasm / humor detector on. 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: In recent days, the COVID situation has shown signs of beginning to spiral out of control, with the government getting battered on the streets, in the news and in public opinion polls over the growing crush of cases and Thailand’s slow vaccination rollout, with only about 5 percent of Thais fully vaccinated thus far. Please note I am in no way being critical of you post, you are doing a fantastic Job bringing us these figures on a Daily basis. keep it up. However, with only 2.50 Million Thais being fully Vaccinated with 2 shots of any Vaccine the number is far less than 5 % of the Population based on 66 Million. It is actually only 3.8 % A really poor Vaccination rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, robblok said: Lets make a policy for those that want the gogo bars open, first get infected by covid delta. Then wait for recovery or death (i mean you have to take some risk for the fun your getting). Then get a card with I had covid im safe now and let them open for those with those cards. Double success guaranteed those wanting fun don't need vaccination and a large part will realize the disease is worse then they thought and some will confirm Darwins Theory. But for the rest the strong they can have all the fun they want ???? This was meant in jest for those who don't have their sarcasm / humor detector on. OTSS! (only the strong survive ***** ******) ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 hopefully this was the peak and it now starts to recede slowly day by day. 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyIdea Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, robblok said: Lets make a policy for those that want the gogo bars open, first get infected by covid delta. Then wait for recovery or death (i mean you have to take some risk for the fun your getting). Then get a card with I had covid im safe now and let them open for those with those cards. Double success guaranteed those wanting fun don't need vaccination and a large part will realize the disease is worse then they thought and some will confirm Darwins Theory. But for the rest the strong they can have all the fun they want ???? This was meant in jest for those who don't have their sarcasm / humor detector on. Also force them to take a 1 year USD 100,000 health insurance which covers covid-19 or prove that they have 3.3 million baht in cash in a Thai bank account, or deport them if they refuse. And let them get covid every 6 months as immunity doesn't last as long as vaccines. Good luck party goers ???? Edited July 20, 2021 by MikeyIdea 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, robblok said: Lets make a policy for those that want the gogo bars open, first get infected by covid delta. Then wait for recovery or death (i mean you have to take some risk for the fun your getting). Then get a card with I had covid im safe now and let them open for those with those cards. Double success guaranteed those wanting fun don't need vaccination and a large part will realize the disease is worse then they thought and some will confirm Darwins Theory. But for the rest the strong they can have all the fun they want ???? This was meant in jest for those who don't have their sarcasm / humor detector on. The types who want the bars open typically claim they had COVID last year. Or the flu. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BE88 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, anchadian said: The WHO has identified four such variants of concern: Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta; and four variants of interest: Eta, Iota, Kappa and Lambda. Among the four variants of concern, Delta is believed to be the most transmissible variant yet. The Delta variant is estimated to be between 40 and 60 percent more transmissible than the Alpha variant, which was first detected in the UK, according to a number of studies. #WHO #COVID19 #Strains #Variantsofconcern #Variantsofinterest #Studies #coronavirus #pandemic https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158149714292050 All these variants are no more dangerous than the original, certainly more contagious but no more dangerous. Information like this is created only to create panic. 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: The types who want the bars open typically claim they had COVID last year. Or the flu. Oh you're behind the times son. It's "a cold" now. Study up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, BE88 said: All these variants are no more dangerous than the original, certainly more contagious but no more dangerous. Information like this is created only to create panic. Not according to real world studies: The researchers said that the Delta variant in Scotland was found mainly in younger, more affluent groups. The risk of hospital admission was approximately doubled in those with the Delta variant when compared to the Alpha variant. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: Please note I am in no way being critical of you post, you are doing a fantastic Job bringing us these figures on a Daily basis. keep it up. However, with only 2.50 Million Thais being fully Vaccinated with 2 shots of any Vaccine the number is far less than 5 % of the Population based on 66 Million. It is actually only 3.8 % A really poor Vaccination rate. The latest fully vaccinated tally from yesterday showing Sunday's daily update was 3.45 million out of about a 70 million population, so close to 5 percent. Today's update should move the 2 shot number a little higher, though lately they seem to be overwhelmingly focusing on doing first shots first. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/368285774789753/?type=3 Edited July 20, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just to report - my walk into the office today was no different to how it has been in the last few weeks. Plenty of traffic (buses, taxis and motorbikes) and people in their company clothes going to work (mainly bank HOs and insurance companies). All the normal street-food sellers were there. The main difference this morning was that places like Starbucks, Subway, Mcdonalds were closed - previously they've been open for takeaway. I found this a little strange as I thought cafes and takeaways could stay open. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, BE88 said: All these variants are no more dangerous than the original, certainly more contagious but no more dangerous. Information like this is created only to create panic. I can’t say that it created any panic in me. Probably because it doesn’t say or imply that any of the variants are more dangerous than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, BE88 said: All these variants are no more dangerous than the original, certainly more contagious but no more dangerous. Information like this is created only to create panic. Please provide a link to a study demonstrating the lethality of the Delta variant. Side note: it may be possible that Delta is more lethal to under-40s than other variants, but the same lethality for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, BE88 said: All these variants are no more dangerous than the original, certainly more contagious but no more dangerous. Information like this is created only to create panic. There is some indication that the Delta variant may also result in more severe disease. A study in Scotland, published in the Lancet, found the hospitalization rate of patients with that variant was about 85 percent higher than that of people with the Alpha variant. But because of the time lag between hospitalizations and deaths, there is not enough data to say whether or not Delta is more deadly than other variants. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dangerous-is-the-delta-variant-and-will-it-cause-a-covid-surge-in-the-u-s/ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Just to report - my walk into the office today was no different to how it has been in the last few weeks. Plenty of traffic (buses, taxis and motorbikes) and people in their company clothes going to work (mainly bank HOs and insurance companies). All the normal street-food sellers were there. The main difference this morning was that places like Starbucks, Subway, Mcdonalds were closed - previously they've been open for takeaway. I found this a little strange as I thought cafes and takeaways could stay open. Perhaps the mainstream brand franchises feel that their workers should stay at home? Good for the street food sellers though, they can clean up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: Please note I am in no way being critical of you post, you are doing a fantastic Job bringing us these figures on a Daily basis. keep it up. However, with only 2.50 Million Thais being fully Vaccinated with 2 shots of any Vaccine the number is far less than 5 % of the Population based on 66 Million. It is actually only 3.8 % A really poor Vaccination rate. I imagine TallguyJohn would agree. The problem is vaccine supply. We know lockdowns and restrictions are to buy time. The restrictions need to be backed up buy huge vaccination effort. (as you point out) Without vaccine we are just treading water. For the first time I almost feel option is to return to own country to receive Vax. However my Thai partner would be stuck here so that's a no go. For me biggest issue is the lies and misinformation on daily basis. Give up the facts about vaccine supply and not daily BS. We are over it. Edited July 20, 2021 by DrJack54 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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