Pattaya: Immigration go after US man who refused to wear mask at Taco Bell - he's fined and repentant

[BangkokReady]

23 hours ago, khunPer said:

guest in another country

If you're working or supporting yourself and spending a load of money in exchange for being allowed to stay in a country not your own, how could you possibly be considered a guest?

 

23 hours ago, khunPer said:

if you don't like the rules, you are free to travel home

You're also free to complain about it, of course.

[arick]

17 hours ago, thailand49 said:

The conclusion from my reading of the science of course anyone guess but not heard you have a 90% chance of getting infected but the correct word being thrown around today is " Breakout Cases "  which is rare based on the millions already vaccination it has been reported the more vaccination the numbers will go up it is all part of the course.

Here is the big difference what I'm reading from the science that if you are fully vaccinated the chance of you dying or being hospitalize is minimum.  If and went I do get vaccinated whether I'm here or at home I plan to wear a mask and follow the science and use a bit of critical thinking if I'm visiting a place that has a low rate of infection being vaccinated I might chose not to wear one but if there is a major outbreak like in Thailand and the leaders mandate a mask it is simple I will wear one it isn't like you got a diaper on your face I don't see what the big deal is being made?????

Go read the new data from the study after two doses of pfizer after five months you are only protected by 10% of not getting  corvid 19!  91% chance you won't get serious ill. But 90% chance of getting infected! Read the study not just media headlines 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

[JensenZ]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

In other words, your sources are within the Denier Lie Factory. Good to know.

You have no idea of my sources. Research of the efficacy of facial masks in preventing the spread of influenza predates Covid-19 and there was a lot of research. WHO actually used this research in their flip-flopping on their guidelines to the use of PPE. One such article has about 50 references to PubMed studies.

 

You continue to troll this same message. You're doing a good job at maintaining the forum's adherence to the "Gospel of Covid", a treatise of acceptable truths. May I commend you on the excellent job you're doing. Keep up the good work.

 

 

[arick]

Short story we will be wearing mask for the at least the next two years. 

[Kinok Powell]

The "man of colour" was clearly a prxck.When in Rome etc.But the sad thing about this storm in a teacup is that the journalist who wrote this article described him as m o c instead of black man.For Christs sake most of us came to live in LOS came here to escape all that newspeak bullsxxt.

[Danderman123]

Just now, JensenZ said:

You have no idea of my sources. Research of the efficacy of facial masks in preventing the spread of influenza predates Covid-19 and there was a lot of research. WHO actually used this research in their flip-flopping on their guidelines to the use of PPE. One such article has about 50 references to PubMed studies.

 

You continue to troll this same message. You're doing a good job at maintaining the forum's adherence to the "Gospel of Covid", a treatise of acceptable truths. May I commend you on the excellent job you're doing. Keep up the good work.

 

 

I wish I could commend you on spreading anti face mask propaganda, but you just might cause someone to die.

[JensenZ]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I wish I could commend you on spreading anti face mask propaganda, but you just might cause someone to die.

I most certainly have not. I have not presented a single article, report or scientific study suggesting that masks are not useful. It is unlawful in Thailand not to wear one, and I've suggested in a number of posts that everyone wear one to avoid problems with the authorities. Whether we believe they are useful or not is beside the point. We don't get to decide that, so relax, I'm not killing anyone.

 

 

[Bluespunk]

On 7/24/2021 at 6:25 AM, toofarnorth said:

Yes , sounds more Nigerian than American ................................oops !

No it doesn’t.  

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Kinok Powell said:

The "man of colour" was clearly a prxck.When in Rome etc.But the sad thing about this storm in a teacup is that the journalist who wrote this article described him as m o c instead of black man.For Christs sake most of us came to live in LOS came here to escape all that newspeak bullsxxt.

I think many people don't understand that calling a black person a black person is perfectly cool. In their defense it can be difficult to keep up with language norms. People of color is more or less passe. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, arick said:

Short story we will be wearing mask for the at least the next two years. 

Obviously.

[Chelseafan]

On 7/24/2021 at 5:06 AM, WhatupThailand said:

Before jumping on the main stream media band wagon,

you may want to check the facts about masks.

Check:

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

 

Also for those to lazy to check anything:

World Health Organization (WHO), June 2020

    https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/332293/WHO-2019-nCov-IPC_Masks-2020.4-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
    “The likely disadvantages of the use of mask by healthy people in the general public include:
        potential increased risk of self-contamination due to the manipulation of a face mask and subsequently touching eyes with contaminated hands;
        potential self-contamination that can occur if non- medical masks are not changed when wet or soiled. This can create favourable conditions for microorganism to amplify;
        potential headache and/or breathing difficulties, depending on type of mask used;
        potential development of facial skin lesions, irritant dermatitis or worsening acne, when used frequently for long hours;
        difficulty with communicating clearly;
        potential discomfort;
        a false sense of security, leading to potentially lower adherence to other critical preventive measures such as physical distancing and hand hygiene;
        poor compliance with mask wearing, in particular by young children;
        waste management issues; improper mask disposal leading to increased litter in public places, risk of contamination to street cleaners and environment hazard;
        difficulty communicating for deaf persons who rely on lip reading;
        disadvantages for or difficulty wearing them, especially for children, developmentally challenged persons, those with mental illness, elderly persons with cognitive impairment, those with asthma or chronic respiratory or breathing problems, those who have had facial trauma or recent oral maxillofacial surgery, and those living in hot and humid environments.

 

 

 

Face masks don't always work ? Well neither do Parachutes but if I ever jump out of a airplane I still want to be wearing one...

 

[Smithson]

3 hours ago, DBath said:

We should start a turkey farm here, that would give the brits one more thing to complain about.????

That was attempted in the 90s, by a Brit also. 

 

There is another vdo filmed in Taco Bell. Has it been posted yet?

[paulikens]

divide and conquer.... but people are too stupid to see it

[jacko45k]

On 7/24/2021 at 12:34 PM, Joinaman said:

so if everyone had a mask on except them, how does that effect them ? Masks make you safe from Covid, don't they ? 

not saying he is right or wrong, but why does it bother you, as long as you are wearing the mask ?

Just put a mask on and stop being such an argumentative brat for heavens sake.....

[Hallib]

On 7/24/2021 at 8:03 AM, sucit said:

Most of these places now have employees who sit outside the shop. I understand not being allowed to go into a private business while violating their policy. I think he has a point otherwise. Those outside employees could take his order and give it to him outside. Seems we should encourage people to stay outside if we truly want to follow the science. Outside/outdoor infections have been shown to be much less prevalent. 

No he was a TOTAL <deleted> on some type of mind altering chemicals No sane person would insult all the other customers. I was there and I am so ashamed of the person being a us citizen, thank god I grew up outside USA and I lived a GOOD life ............

[khunPer]

4 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

If you're working or supporting yourself and spending a load of money in exchange for being allowed to stay in a country not your own, how could you possibly be considered a guest?

 

You're also free to complain about it, of course.

You are still a guest, but you have kindly being allowed to obtain a work permit, and you came here of you own free will...????

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

You are still a guest, but you have kindly being allowed to obtain a work permit

Nothing "kindly" about it.  It's a mutually beneficial arrangement.  Believe it or not Thai people/The Kingdom of Thailand actually benefit from having foreign people here.

 

I know that's hard for the "I'm the only gay in the village" types here to come to terms with, but it's true.

 

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

and you came here of you own free will...????

And one can stay of one's own free will, and complain of one's own free will.

[thailand49]

6 hours ago, arick said:

Go read the new data from the study after two doses of pfizer after five months you are only protected by 10% of not getting  corvid 19!  91% chance you won't get serious ill. But 90% chance of getting infected! Read the study not just media headlines 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

First, Media Headlines?  can you confirm that is how I came to my opinion?  funny people say stuff like this then quote to others exactly what they are criticizing others!  WWW. CNBC  I read the article I think you would get lots of debate from medical researcher from the Health Minister of Israel regarding these numbers it isn't past on trials etc. it is just his opinion from results in this one country if it was a stand alone only country in the world you might have something but you done.  Is cnbc not part of the media?

[TooBigToFit]

6 hours ago, arick said:

Short story we will be wearing mask for the at least the next two years. 

You may very well be correct with this comment.

[skippybangkok]

Go back home you arrogant yank 

[mickylongtime]

So did he get a hot meal or not 

[ericthai]

20 hours ago, DBath said:

“Americans still invading countries and forcing their views down the natives throats I see…”

 

You mean like Hong Kong, Cayman Islands and places like that? Err…wait.
 

Oh, and let’s not forget Canada. 

wait..dont stop  India, Australia, Bermuda, Gibraltar, South Georgia, New Zealand..etc etc 

[AwwYesNice1]

Taco Bell Boi was out and about on the Jomtien strip this evening with no mask.

So much for the outrage.

[waders123]

I don't know what this man is thinking:  He is NOT in his country and as such you follow the rules of the country you are a guest in.  If you don't like it, then leave.  Your rights are not necessarily a priority or a concern to the country you are visiting!  He needs to be educated about being in a guest country; that country has all the "rights" to do what they want, NOT YOU.  

Wear the mask and have an enjoyable day! Cheers!!

[Leaver]

7 minutes ago, waders123 said:

Your rights are not necessarily a priority or a concern to the country you are visiting! 

 

I don't think this government cares about anyone's rights, Thai, or foreigner.  

[gk10012001]

In the posted video he claimed he retired at age 25.  Quite a feat if true.  What type of visa is he on?  Did he have a police investigation clean bill of health?  Things just seem a bit odd

[ThailandRyan]

4 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

In the posted video he claimed he retired at age 25.  Quite a feat if true.  What type of visa is he on?  Did he have a police investigation clean bill of health?  Things just seem a bit odd

Maybe he is a trust fund baby, or he invested in crypto and cashed it out, who knows, and sometimes you just have to wonder. 

[hotandsticky]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think many people don't understand that calling a black person a black person is perfectly cool. In their defense it can be difficult to keep up with language norms. People of color is more or less passe. 

local Thai reporting would just have referred to “Chocolate Man” and everyone would understand.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, micmichd said:

His videos on YouTube are not so bad after all. And his ladies are neither ugly nor hookers. 

Too add in to your post, he is also making some money apparently.  

[micmichd]

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Too add in to your post, he is also making some money apparently.  

Who knows? I don't pay him.