Pattaya mayor admits reopening plan is in trouble but presses on

[webfact]

Picture: Manager

 

Pattaya's mayor Sontaya Kunplome admitted to Manager that plans to reopen the resort under the "Pattaya Move On" banner have taken a hit after Chonburi was placed in a deep red zone and Covid-19 infections continued to rise. 

 

But he said that despite tourism in Pattaya being in dire straits this was no reason to abandon the plans to reopen on September 1st.

 

Picture: Manager

 

He said he was still working with the private sector and health authorities and they were all about ready to present their plan to the Chonburi provincial government and thereafter the central government. 

 

This is based on a "Sealed Route" plan accommodating tourists in SHA+ hotels along the lines of the Phuket Sandbox and Samui Plus models.

 

Picture: Manager

 

The mayor reiterated that vaccination of the people was key and that 900,000 doses were needed to be administered to 450,000 people.

 

He pointed to one bright spot - the island of Koh Larn off the coast of Pattaya where he said that 70% of the population had already been vaccinated. 

 

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[smedly]

25 minutes ago, webfact said:

But he said that despite tourism in Pattaya being in dire straits this was no reason to abandon the plans to reopen on September 1st.

I really have no respose to that that I can post here

 

 

I am all for reopening - it is very difficult to be so isolated for so long - I am a social person and online chats just don't do it for me, everybody needs interaction of some kind 

 

If the Mayor had sealed Pattaya off weeks ago we might at least have had a chance of some form of normality - yes hard to do in Pattaya unlike Phucket

 

but thinking Pattaya is going to open in Sept is beyond stupid

[Emdog]

"When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind. What Do You Do, Sir?" (various attributions)

They never let facts get in the way here.

[mikebell]

My son (50+) got jabbed yesterday in BKK at a walk-in.  I'm 78 but live in Pattaya!  Only when we're all safe will it be wise to re-open Pattaya.

[robblok]

40 minutes ago, smedly said:

I really have no respose to that that I can post here

 

 

I am all for reopening - it is very difficult to be so isolated for so long - I am a social person and online chats just don't do it for me, everybody needs interaction of some kind 

 

If the Mayor had sealed Pattaya off weeks ago we might at least have had a chance of some form of normality - yes hard to do in Pattaya unlike Phucket

 

but thinking Pattaya is going to open in Sept is beyond stupid

I think those that suffer most are those who live alone. Before it was probably easy to pick up entertainment for the night but now a bit harder. Hence they suffer the most and are most vocal about reopening. (besides that Idiot of a mayor that is ????)

[fulhamster]

Still no vaccines available in Pattaya

[Taboo2]

Ok, so if this dude's plan does not work, I am back to another 14 days in the Secure Housing Unit....(SHU)?

 

Just go ahead and give us vaccinated folks 3 days...and you will have your economy back in shape in a NY minute!

[Skallywag]

8 minutes ago, fulhamster said:

Still no vaccines available in Pattaya

There were actually vaccinations given at several places for Thai citizens in the last month or so (Sinovac). 

Expats make up less than 10% of population. 

Mayor does not need any expats vaccinated to open up if the Thais are vaccinated is how he sees it I believe

[fulhamster]

2 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

There were actually vaccinations given at several places for Thai citizens in the last month or so (Sinovac). 

Expats make up less than 10% of population. 

Mayor does not need any expats vaccinated to open up if the Thais are vaccinated is how he sees it I believe

So when Pattaya is opened up to the double-vaccinated tourists, they will still let unvaccinated expats wander around with them ?

[Skallywag]

3 hours ago, fulhamster said:

So when Pattaya is opened up to the double-vaccinated tourists, they will still let unvaccinated expats wander around with them ?

The U.S. has over 40% people in many states still unvaccinated and they have "opened up", yet hospitals are filling up again in several states I see

[aussienam]

Impossible to happen if they want to open similar to Phuket sandbox conditions.

 

Full vaccinations take a couple of months on average between doses.  We aren't even at a reasonable dosage phase.  Registration process takes time too. 

Sandboxing Pattaya would be a huge logistical challenge as many backroads. Many bar staff come from the north too and doubt they'd do any form of quarantine, so would need to be fully vaccinated too. 

 

1st September is 5 weeks away.  Not even a reasonable herd immunity level possible by then.  

 

Is there a different reopening model I missed?

Edited July 24, 2021 by aussienam
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[RayD]

The World Health Organization, after looking at data from around the world, had concluded lockdowns are ineffective, so you could open up now for all the difference it would make. The Thai government is simply copying what was done in the west, without realizing that that was political, not medical. 

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Pattaya's mayor Sontaya Kunplome admitted to Manager that plans to reopen the resort under the "Pattaya Move On" banner have taken a hit after Chonburi was placed in a deep red zone and Covid-19 infections continued to rise. 

Yep... Plan B... Opening sometime in 2022

[GrandPapillon]

vaccines are on their way,

 

delivery date: January 2022

 

????

[BostonRob2]

6 hours ago, smedly said:

I really have no respose to that that I can post here

 

 

I am all for reopening - it is very difficult to be so isolated for so long - I am a social person and online chats just don't do it for me, everybody needs interaction of some kind 

 

If the Mayor had sealed Pattaya off weeks ago we might at least have had a chance of some form of normality - yes hard to do in Pattaya unlike Phucket

 

but thinking Pattaya is going to open in Sept is beyond stupid

He's thinking Koh Larn more than Pattaya. 

[Golden Triangle]

These Muppets live in a perpetual dream world, I mean, really.....................????????????????

[Joinaman]

9 hours ago, mikebell said:

My son (50+) got jabbed yesterday in BKK at a walk-in.  I'm 78 but live in Pattaya!  Only when we're all safe will it be wise to re-open Pattaya.

why is it not safe in Pattaya

you wear a mask when out, you sanitize when touching things, so why the running scared ?

or are you saying that the masks don't work ?

 

[david555]

The only way to have any hopes on re opening Pattaya by him  ..... he better start organizing mass vaccinations ....or re-opening Pattaya  he can forget 

[newnative]

   No mention of where he's going to get those 900,000 doses--or when.  Way too little and too slow.

[Golden Triangle]

4 hours ago, visacrack said:

 

I don't know what a knobber is. Do you? Is it important? Well never mind. 

 

Anyhow, you looked for, and found, a way to make it easy for yourself: You used a trick to brush off all my decisive arguments. Who says they are not correct even if we assume for a moment that my initial assumption were doubtful? 

 

If my term is acceptable depends on the demands to such a debate. That we're not having a medical expert discussion here in this forum can be taken for granted. A little simplification in the interest of easier comprehension for everyone cannot be wrong. I've read similar comparisons made by MDs.

 

Now while you ponder how to counter this move, you could go to the Mayo Clinic and read what they say in their article 'Coronavirus vs. flu: Similarities and differences'. Not that we should consider them infallible as the pope, but they're probably at least good enough as purveyors of a second opinion. 

I'll agree with what the other guy said you are, and if you're not sure it's derogatory, Google may help ????????????

[CharlieH]

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[shdmn]

What is this "sealed route" all about?

Edited July 24, 2021 by shdmn

[sammieuk1]

Old strong arm could ask general Prawit to supply some dead friends as in all probability that's all he will get there for a year or two ????

[Leaver]

 

Just the regular weekly press release designed to encourage tenants to stay in the game and pay another month's rent.  

[DoctorB]

16 hours ago, mikebell said:

My son (50+) got jabbed yesterday in BKK at a walk-in.  I'm 78 but live in Pattaya!  Only when we're all safe will it be wise to re-open Pattaya.

That's never then. We'll never all be safe.

[mikebell]

13 hours ago, Joinaman said:

why is it not safe in Pattaya

you wear a mask when out, you sanitize when touching things, so why the running scared ?

or are you saying that the masks don't work ?

 

'The number of new Covid-19 infections is on a steep upward curve, doubling or tripling weekly, a Department of Disease Control (DDC) official said on Saturday.'

'On Saturday a total of 14,575 new infections and 114 deaths were recorded,'

These figures are from yesterday.  I am sure many of them were doing all the things you suggested yet somehow contrived to contract the disease.  At 78 with no Pattaya vaccine in sight, yes I'm running scared.

[jacko45k]

On 7/24/2021 at 2:06 PM, RayD said:

The World Health Organization, after looking at data from around the world, had concluded lockdowns are ineffective, so you could open up now for all the difference it would make. The Thai government is simply copying what was done in the west, without realizing that that was political, not medical. 

Source of that information or was it pulled while in a standing position?

If you want to say lockdowns do not prevent Covid spreading, yes, it is likely... but it must be made clear. They do slow it down substantially, give the medical services breathing room while, we hope, vaccination can reach levels that do protect people.

[Leaver]

On 7/24/2021 at 2:06 PM, RayD said:

The World Health Organization, after looking at data from around the world, had concluded lockdowns are ineffective, so you could open up now for all the difference it would make. The Thai government is simply copying what was done in the west, without realizing that that was political, not medical. 

 

Rubbish.

 

If you have an infected person and you isolate them, you have protected others from them.  If uninfected people isolate themselves, they are protected from possibly infected people.

 

 

[MrJ2U]

On 7/24/2021 at 1:39 PM, Skallywag said:

The U.S. has over 40% people in many states still unvaccinated and they have "opened up", yet hospitals are filling up again in several states I see

"97% Of People Entering Hospitals For COVID-19 Are Unvaccinated"

NPR July 16, 2021

 

Thats in the USA.

Mainly Anti vaxers in the South

 

Everywhere on the news I see the uptick in COVID-19 cases.  

Very disheartening to say the least.

 

 

[MrJ2U]

2 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Rubbish.

 

If you have an infected person and you isolate them, you have protected others from them.  If uninfected people isolate themselves, they are protected from possibly infected people.

 

 

WHO has recommended tougher lockdowns for Thailand today.