Thailand reports 23,418 new COVID-19 cases, 184 more deaths

[robblok]

38 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Forever the optimist you are, numbers are underreported and unfortunately so are deaths.  Many have been dying at home here as well.  You see it differently then those of us who are living amongst the issues obviously.  I see the suffering daily here in BKK as well as see and hear from folks we know, as well as the news regarding folks passing.  The home isolation may be good for some, but unfortunately it is a long road to recovery as we are finding out with my GF's daughter and all of the GF's relatives who are still suffering from one aspect of covid or another after being released from the hospitals and surviving being on ventilators.  To say we are uninformed is about right for someone who thinks that facts are just sooooo boring.

Yes it should be more reported that for a big part 10% or so of people get long Covid. That is really bad and it takes a while to recover. That is totally different from the flue and the optimist who either classify it as a death.. or just a harmless disease you had and get over in a week or so. People need to be aware that the long covid is a serious problem.

 

Yes the numbers are far too low we seen graphs of extra deaths this year compared to normal years and it is huge. Far more as the reported deaths. Its only reasonable to assume much of those are covid related. 

[Cake Monster]

47 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

And today in another OP running currently a Senior Advisor to the MOPH and Anutin has come out stating that the Covid infections numbers are more than likely higher than being reported.  Yes folks the numbers we see here are not the totals, oh who would have believed that one, yes sarcasm in my tone.  Today as we took our Friday morning walk, and took care of the folks we do, I noticed a long que of people by the Silom MRT station next to Lumpini Park.  There were attendants dressed in the PPE clothes handing out paperwork, and so it appears they were doing more pop up testing.  Probably had a few hundred lined up.  

 

The numbers are increasing daily and nowhere near the downtrend stated for here in Bangkok as you can see with 5,161 cases, and nowhere near the crest of this wave.  My view is that it will be awhile longer before we start to see daylight and the numbers come down.  Waiting to see how the outer provinces are doing with todays numbers as well.

 

Stay safe folks and hopefully everyone can get vaccinated sooner rather than later.  Waiting on the GF's PCR test results from Wednesday to ensure she can see her doctor on Sunday, and today is the day the daughter will be retested and given a chest x'ray to see if she has truly recovered and then can come home to us.  These are very trying times as we all can see.  On a positive note it is a beautiful day today here in BKK.  Take care and enjoy what you can.

Best wishes for a good result on the Young Girl

Hopefully there will not be any " long " Covid symptoms or effects, which is something the Thai Authorities are keeping well quiet about.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Did the report say the 1.5 million donated doses are in the country already?  Donated does not necessarily mean they have arrived in country...

Read facts before posting and do not try to stir up irrelevant and impossible beliefs. 

Quote: Today, the United States donated 1,503,450 doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to Thailand.  This historic shipment, which reaffirms U.S. support to our oldest ally in Asia, arrived at Suvarnabhumi airport this morning.

Here is the link: 1.5 Million Pfizer Vaccine Doses, Donated by the United States, Arrive in Thailand | U.S. Embassy & Consulate in Thailand (usembassy.gov)

It is dated July 30 at the bottom of the page.

[club]

1 hour ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Did the report say the 1.5 million donated doses are in the country already?  Donated does not necessarily mean they have arrived in country...

Think they arrived July 31. They had many Thai officials standing next the Acting US ambassador to Thailand when the doses got here. They did sit in a warehouse for 6 days before moving 

[blackcab]

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[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Sadly Vietnam continues to see numbers rise.

Well, it's a global pandemic!  Are there any countries that haven't seen a rise in numbers at some stage?

[buick]

all countries have more cases than are reported, that is a simple fact.  even in countries with massive testing programs.  the question is how many more is it.  some say 5x some say 10x.  so thailand could be between 100,000 and 200,000 per day.  that is why deaths is a better measure, it isn't hard to count the dead.  some countries are better than others with that counting.  but it is still a much better measure than the case count. 

Edited August 13, 2021 by buick

[robblok]

6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, it's a global pandemic!  Are there any countries that haven't seen a rise in numbers at some stage?

Of course every country had a rise as we all started at 0 ????

 

But its sad to see countries rise again. We all hope that we get out of this. In my country its going well less and less people in hospitals only young people who get it because not vaccinated and partying too much. Still much better than before.

[anchadian]

Vaccination update for #Bangkok for yesterday:

 

71,521 people vaccinated in one day

Medical workers: +2,753

Underlying conditions: +5,769

Elderly: +4,717

7,120,582 doses administered so far

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1426014993518972931

 

[Marvin Hagler]

So what is Chang Mai doing so differently to the rest of Thailand that has allowed it to escape this latest outbreak so far?

[anchadian]

Opinion: Don’t absolve big pharma’s role in current vaccine crisis

 

There is little debate on the fact that Thailand’s vaccine roll-out has been nothing short of a shambles. 

 

Targets have not been met, vulnerable groups have not been prioritized, and the government persists in procuring a vaccine that many studies suggest is not as effective as other alternatives.

 

The state’s role in this failure has been correctly called out by various commentators, social media users, and everyday private citizens. As such, there is little need for me to add to the chorus on that front.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/31184/opinion-dont-absolve-big-pharmas-role-in-current-vaccine-crisis/

[spidermike007]

The lockdown and the stranglehold on the livelihoods on the common Thai, does not seem to be working. Oh, I forgot. They are not manning the roadblocks and they are engaging in very selective shutdowns. Guess someone is failing both the effectiveness and sincerity tests. 

[buick]

for thailand, the 7 day avg, daily death number on july 15 was 81.  on aug 1 it was 133.  as of aug 12 it is 182.  so increase of 52 over 81 is 64%.  increase of 49 over 133 is 37%.  as i've said before, i'm not an expert in math, statistics, calculus, etc..  but i think that tells you the rate of increase is slowing.  and i'd still attach a label of 'growing fast' but at least not as much.

 

you can see the data on this link (scroll to daily new deaths and click the 7 day moving average):

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/thailand/

[DrJack54]

38 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, it's a global pandemic!  Are there any countries that haven't seen a rise in numbers at some stage?

Simplistic reply.

Vietnam has now in place more strict 'lockdown' than some ASEAN countries. Certainly more severe than Thailand. 

The new cases is on strong trend upwards. Haven't read anything re Lambda strain that was recorded there. 

Think it's only on WHO list as 'variant of interest.

[anchadian]

Thai volunteers provide lifeline to elderly, sick cut off by pandemic

 

BANGKOK, Aug 13 (Reuters) - Decked out in personal protective equipment, former pilot Chayaphon Satondee dashes to the Bangkok home of an elderly coronavirus patient in urgent need of hospital care.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thai-volunteers-provide-lifeline-elderly-sick-cut-off-by-pandemic-2021-08-13/

[smedly]

36 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:

So what is Chang Mai doing so differently to the rest of Thailand that has allowed it to escape this latest outbreak so far?

likely nothing, if you don't do anything what is there to report

[brewsterbudgen]

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Simplistic reply.

Vietnam has now in place more strict 'lockdown' than some ASEAN countries. Certainly more severe than Thailand. 

The new cases is on strong trend upwards. Haven't read anything re Lambda strain that was recorded there. 

Think it's only on WHO list as 'variant of interest.

Well, the comment I was replying to was very simple.  But your more detailed comment is interesting.  Is the fact that cases (and deaths?) in Vietnam are still rising despite the severe lockdown, attributable to the new strain or the ineffectiveness of the lockdown?

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, the comment I was replying to was very simple.  But your more detailed comment is interesting.  Is the fact that cases (and deaths?) in Vietnam are still rising despite the severe lockdown, attributable to the new strain or the ineffectiveness of the lockdown?

It's not down to new strain. That would be headline world news.

As for lockdowns.....they don't stop the spread. They are hopefully slowing spread down. That's simply buying time for vaccination program and to hopefully avoid collapse of medical support.

Yes Vietnam has restrictions such as 6pm curfew etc. The increase in cases and deaths being labeled a "lockdown failure" would only be truly known if we had numbers for NO lockdown. Meaning what would situation be in Vietnam if they did zero restrictions.

 

Edited August 13, 2021 by DrJack54

[anchadian]

Morgues in Bangkok are being pushed to limit as the number of bodies double and the healthcare system hangs by a wire

 

*WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES*

 

Thailand continues to struggle to contain the third wave of the pandemic with the Thai public health system put to its limit with hospital beds scarce and morgue space even more scarce.

 

Besides doctors, nurses, and hospital administrators who are being stretched thin, forensic technicians have also been pushed to their breaking point.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/31190/morgues-pushed-to-limit-as-the-number-of-bodies-double/

[smedly]

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, the comment I was replying to was very simple.  But your more detailed comment is interesting.  Is the fact that cases (and deaths?) in Vietnam are still rising despite the severe lockdown, attributable to the new strain or the ineffectiveness of the lockdown?

I been reading your posts for weeks - if you hadn't told us you had a business here I would have guessed it anyway, yes it is sad that businesses across the country are suffering and I assume yours is no different, it would be normal for you to keep playing down the pandemic because you are focused on other things like your income, I don't know what sort of business you are involved in - it is likely something you offer to farangs that they probably do not need like getting a drivers licence and charging stupid money for a service that is quite frankly pointless. 

 

Maybe you should concentrate on the cluster that is actually going on in the country and recognise that your business interests are not going to resume any time soon - if ever 

 

It is what it is, not facing reality doesn't really help you does it.

[brewsterbudgen]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

I been reading your posts for weeks - if you hadn't told us you had a business here I would have guessed it anyway, yes it is sad that businesses across the country are suffering and I assume yours is no different, it would be normal for you to keep playing down the pandemic because you are focused on other things like your income, I don't know what sort of business you are involved in - it is likely something you offer to farangs that they probably do not need like getting a drivers licence and charging stupid money for a service that is quite frankly pointless. 

 

Maybe you should concentrate on the cluster that is actually going on in the country and recognise that your business interests are not going to resume any time soon - if ever 

 

It is what it is, not facing reality doesn't really help you does it.

I think you're confusing me with someone else.  I don't have a business here, just a teaching job and a family.  

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thailand continues to struggle to contain the third wave of the pandemic with the Thai public health system put to its limit with hospital beds scarce and morgue space even more scarce

Thanks for all the ongoing links you provide. Yes indeed that link is very sobering to say the least. 

[smedly]

18 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Well, the comment I was replying to was very simple.  But your more detailed comment is interesting.  Is the fact that cases (and deaths?) in Vietnam are still rising despite the severe lockdown, attributable to the new strain or the ineffectiveness of the lockdown?

you cannot say that lockdowns are ineffective, they will never stop the spread but certainly reduce the spread until other measures can be implimented like vaccines 

 

Lockdowns become ineffective when they are in fact not lockdowns - factories remain open - markets remain open - many other examples were people gather in large numbers remain open - that is not a lockdown, were people mix this virus will spread very quickly amongst them - that is a fact 

[Olmate]

9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I think you're confusing me with someone else.  I don't have a business here, just a teaching job and a family.  

Crikey! Even I knew that... 

[smedly]

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I think you're confusing me with someone else.  I don't have a business here, just a teaching job and a family.  

then you are working but not right now, same context in meaning - your income has stopped and that is what you are focused on 

 

Your teaching job would start much faster if this government hadn't made and is still making a total shambles of this pandemic - the sooner you realise that the better, this country will not see anything close to normality until 60m people have recieved at least 2 doses of an effective vaccine, the sooner you accept that the better 

[Phoenix Rising]

Seven more countries land ‘very high’ on (US) CDC’s COVID travel risk list.

 

"Thailand — changing from Level 3 to Level 4"

[spidermike007]

24 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It's not down to new strain. That would be headline world news.

As for lockdowns.....they don't stop the spread. They are hopefully slowing spread down. That's simply buying time for vaccination program and to hopefully avoid collapse of medical support.

Yes Vietnam has restrictions such as 6pm curfew etc. The increase in cases and deaths being labeled a "lockdown failure" would only be truly known if we had numbers for NO lockdown. Meaning what would situation be in Vietnam if they did zero restrictions.

 

Thank you. A voice of reasoning in the wilderness of "lockdown mania". 

[anchadian]

8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Thanks for all the ongoing links you provide. Yes indeed that link is very sobering to say the least. 

Cheers.

 

Of the news articles I post I always check whether or not that same article is already posted in the main news section. 

 

Yesterday's update, a certain poster said that an article I posted was already in the main news section.   What he didn't know was I posted this before the main news article was released.

[Skallywag]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

Quote: Today, the United States donated 1,503,450 doses of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to Thailand.  This historic shipment, which reaffirms U.S. support to our oldest ally in Asia, arrived at Suvarnabhumi airport this morning.

Here is the link: 1.5 Million Pfizer Vaccine Doses, Donated by the United States, Arrive in Thailand | U.S. Embassy & Consulate in Thailand (usembassy.gov)

It is dated July 30 at the bottom of the page.

What I wonder is how the vaccines are handled after arriving.  Shipped in containers with dry ice that only lasts 24 hours I read somewhere.  Where do the Thai hospitals put them after 24 hours?  Pfizer vaccine must stay at 2-8 degrees!  I would assume 1.5 million doses take up a lot of space in the freezer

[anchadian]

This is the first time I have seen vaccine being offered to children 12-18 years old. Have you seen elsewhere? I know the French embassy were planning on vaccinating French children. From what I understand, Pfizer is the only vaccine to be approved by the FDA for children so far.

Quote Tweet

 

Samut Prakan Hospital has announced they will be offering Pfizer to 4 groups of people, including children 12-18 years old with underlying conditions, on 15th August. [1/2] #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1426034867687497734