Does Thailand’s deal for 8.5 million ATKs pass the corruption test?

Thailand’s surging COVID-19 crisis has spawned a series of rumors and scandals, with the latest centered on rapid antigen test kits (ATKs). Initially touted as a tool to control COVID-19, ATKs are now viewed by many as a breeding ground for corruption.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/does-thailands-deal-for-8-5-million-atks-pass-the-corruption-test/

Vaccination update for #Bangkok for yesterday:

 

74,107 people vaccinated in one day

Medical workers: +4,335

Underlying conditions: +11,155

Elderly: +5,141

7,478,871 doses administered so far

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427492361156710401

 

#PhuketSandbox Update: On 16th August, 274 international travellers arrived on 3 flights bringing the total to 21,610. Since 1st July, 58 Sandboxers (+0) have tested positive. 28 on 1st test, 15 on 2nd test, 2 on 3rd test, and 13 from close contact tests #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427492696445263872

 

21 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Yes, as I said. It is on the amber group of countries in the UK so not deemed any more risky than the likes of Germany, Sweden and many many more. 

I'm not sure where you are getting this "amber group" data.  I just went to the CDC website, and Thailand is in the top (worst) category for travel, the red category.  Their recommendation for this category is "avoid travel to these countries".  (So is the UK, by the way, just to be fair.)  Can you tell me where this amber rating is from?

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427431414157373440

 

Cases down, but deaths up? Hmm...

10 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Cases down, but deaths up? Hmm...

2 week lag between cases and deaths is what your seeing. Unfortunately we could see the numbers of deaths rise.

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 63: 191,145 <— Sunday

DAY 64: 501,330

DAY 65: 546,844

DAY 66: 570,865

DAY 67: 219,840 <— holiday

DAY 68: 683,832

DAY 69: 284,378 <— Saturday

DAY 70: 162,511 <— Sunday

DAY 71: 508,498

TOTAL: 20,000,110 doses

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427502624346042369

 

40 minutes ago, mtraveler said:

I'm not sure where you are getting this "amber group" data.  I just went to the CDC website, and Thailand is in the top (worst) category for travel, the red category.  Their recommendation for this category is "avoid travel to these countries".  (So is the UK, by the way, just to be fair.)  Can you tell me where this amber rating is from?

Thailand is on the UK's amber list.

30 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

2 week lag between cases and deaths is what your seeing. Unfortunately we could see the numbers of deaths rise.

I don't have a link it was a US TV news program.

The Doctor there said 20% of people in ICU die and 50% who are put on ventilation die.  They may have different protocols there for these situations but if it is similar to here yes, it seems the numbers will rise.

 

#COVID19 #Thailand update on Tuesday: 20,128 new cases (+10 from abroad) 239 new deaths 210,032 patients in care 5,536 in ICU and 1,169 on ventilators 20,791 discharged from care 

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1427504295419650055

 

Today there were 239 deaths in #Thailand

 

120 males & 119 females

4 foreigners died

1 pregnant woman died

Median age is 67 (22 years-105 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (79)

Deaths reported in 37 provinces

66% of those who died were 60+

5 died at home

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427504825038557185

 

Out of 19,846 local cases (not in prisons)

 

Bangkok - 4,397

Samut Sakhon - 1,843

Samut Prakan - 1,200

Chonburi - 1,182

Nonthaburi - 983

Ayutthaya - 454

Chachoengsao - 403

Saraburi - 398

Ratchaburi - 398

Sisaket - 397

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427506729562951682

 

Hospital director probed for allegedly giving his wife Pfizer vaccine

The director of Chaloem Phra Kiat Hospital, in Thailand’s northeastern province of Nakhon Ratchasima, Dr. Champ Suttisrisin, is under investigation for allegedly administering a Pfizer mRNA vaccine jab to his wife and an outsider.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/hospital-director-probed-for-allegedly-giving-his-wife-pfizer-vaccine/

5 hours ago, anchadian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office is reporting 1,182 new cases today and 7 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (260), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (216), and Si Racha (376). There are now 20,711 patients in care #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1427430130108952587

 

Further details:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/17/chonburi-reports-1182-new-covid-19-cases-with-7-deaths/

12 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Hospital director probed for allegedly giving his wife Pfizer vaccine

The director of Chaloem Phra Kiat Hospital, in Thailand’s northeastern province of Nakhon Ratchasima, Dr. Champ Suttisrisin, is under investigation for allegedly administering a Pfizer mRNA vaccine jab to his wife and an outsider.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/hospital-director-probed-for-allegedly-giving-his-wife-pfizer-vaccine/

That's the problem with vaccine certificates. If you want to vaccine someone (i.e. your wife), you cannot use a fake name because a vaccine certificate with a real name will be needed.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

He asked what % of the people that came to Thailand via sandbox scheme were tourists vs those with ties such as family, property etc

Simple question however don't think there is any data on that.

Maybe that’s why he never got an answer. 

Phuket Sandbox Expands to 3 Provinces

 

BANGKOK, Aug 17 (TNA) – The Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration allowed three provinces to welcome foreign tourists from Phuket during their 14-day quarantine.

 

CCSA spokesman Dr Taweesilp Visanuyothin said the center agreed with the Tourism and Sports Ministry’s proposal on the 7+7 program to allow foreign visitors who stayed in Phuket under the Phuket Sandbox project for seven days to visit three other southern provinces on the seven following days.

 

The 7+7 program took effect on Aug 16. As a result, visitors to Phuket can also travel to Koh Samui, Koh Phangan and Koh Tao islands in Surat Thani province; Koh Phi Phi, Koh Ngai and Railay beach in Krabi province; and Khao Lak, Koh Yao Noi and Koh Yao Yai in Phangnga province within their 14-day quarantine period.

 

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-760037

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Tuesday

Total: 20,118

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158204960822050

1 hour ago, mtraveler said:

I'm not sure where you are getting this "amber group" data.  I just went to the CDC website, and Thailand is in the top (worst) category for travel, the red category.  Their recommendation for this category is "avoid travel to these countries".  (So is the UK, by the way, just to be fair.)  Can you tell me where this amber rating is from?

In the UK an amber country is listed as a country that should only be for essential travel, not a holiday. As with everything re. Covid guidance in the UK it's a bit of a murky area. You always have to cross check with FCO country list as to whether you're insurance would be valid, the main consideration I would think  

58 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Hospital director probed for allegedly giving his wife Pfizer vaccine

The director of Chaloem Phra Kiat Hospital, in Thailand’s northeastern province of Nakhon Ratchasima, Dr. Champ Suttisrisin, is under investigation for allegedly administering a Pfizer mRNA vaccine jab to his wife and an outsider.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/hospital-director-probed-for-allegedly-giving-his-wife-pfizer-vaccine/

Kaboom, the second case has appeared, with one doctor already resigning in another case where she vaccinated her sister with a "Dead dose".

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Thailand is on the UK's amber list.

To be fair it’s hard  to believe is you only read this forum. 

Just hit an interesting snag. I registered for the vaccine on [email protected] a while back. I'm a permanent resident so I selected the permanent resident option and included copy of passport, my alien book and the red police book. All nicely scanned, crisp and clear. I don't plan to leave Thailand so I don't have a re-entry visa.

 

Got an email today stating that my vaccine request cannot be processed due to lack of required visas... I can only think of 2 possible options:

1) You must have a re-entry permit even though one is not required if you don't want to leave the country

2) Perhaps it's the same as the land transport department at Chatuchak. They refused to let me re-register my car because I didn't have a visa expiry date. I explained that it's difficult for immigration to know when I will die - as a permanent resident is allowed to stay in the country for life, making a few Thai's queueing around me laugh. That didn't impress them but it made me happy. 

 

They are not making it easy for foreigners to get vaccinated

 

Well he would wouldn't he.............

 

Phetchabun governor dismisses rumours of infection cluster

 

However, provincial governor Krit Kongmuang dismissed the rumour, saying only the assistant village headman who had been driving people to the vaccination site, his wife and son had tested positive for Covid-19.

Another 20 people who had been in contact with the driver have also been told to isolate themselves and will undergo Covid-19 tests within seven days.

The assistant village headman and his wife had both received Sinovac as their first shot and AstraZeneca as their second.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40004787

Thailand recategorized as high-risk #COVID19

Hong Kong Lengthens Quarantines for 16 Countries

Previously, the 15 countries, which also include Malaysia, Thailand, France and the Netherlands, were classified as medium-risk, with travelers able to serve only 7 days of quarantine if they were fully vaccinated and tested positive for antibodies prior to leaving for the city.

A resurgence of coronavirus cases in these countries due to the delta variant led the to be recategorized as high high-risk and stricter measures imposed, as the government sought to “uphold the local barrier against the importation of COVID-19,” it said in a statement.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/international/2021/08/17/hong-kong-lengthens-quarantines-for-16-countries/

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Does Thailand’s deal for 8.5 million ATKs pass the corruption test?

Thailand’s surging COVID-19 crisis has spawned a series of rumors and scandals, with the latest centered on rapid antigen test kits (ATKs). Initially touted as a tool to control COVID-19, ATKs are now viewed by many as a breeding ground for corruption.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/does-thailands-deal-for-8-5-million-atks-pass-the-corruption-test/

Well there's a fair chance. Why not look into who has shares in the Chinese company and who are their mates. I've got a good idea. Sinovac springs to mind. These things are not used internationally because they're useless. Nothing to do with the health of the citizenry, the economy and the country but how full you make your pockets.

10 minutes ago, poyai111 said:

0.8% mortality - hardly the bubonic plague! I'll take those odds and get on with my life notwithstanding the Karens' hysteria

According to Johns Hopkins Medical, the worldwide mortality rate from Covid infection is 2.15%. Countries now suffering higher infection rates are moving toward that figure asymptotically.

2 hours ago, mtraveler said:

I'm not sure where you are getting this "amber group" data.  I just went to the CDC website, and Thailand is in the top (worst) category for travel, the red category.  Their recommendation for this category is "avoid travel to these countries".  (So is the UK, by the way, just to be fair.)  Can you tell me where this amber rating is from?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england
 

Enjoy. 

22 minutes ago, poyai111 said:

0.8% mortality - hardly the bubonic plague! I'll take those odds and get on with my life notwithstanding the Karens' hysteria

Sorry to bust your bubble but that's not your choice to make. Authorities make that choice for you. Accept or more to somewhere where authorities have different rules.

From : https://twitter.com/NBTWORLDNews/status/1427522559260577792/photo/1

 

The graph of Covid in the Issan province of Sisaket

Onwards and upwards

 

 

 

Just a though after seeing the article photo that links to this article.

The people are suited , masked and gloved up putting coffin in vehicle. But is it actually possible to catch covid from a dead person ?