Popular Post webfact Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 Story and picture By Andrew J Wood BANGKOK: Speaking at Thursday morning’s webinar “Gearing up Thailand Economic Recovery in 2022 and Beyond” organised by the Thai Exhibition Association (TEA) and sub-headed A Brighter Outlook for Thailand’s Exhibition Industry, Mr. Montri Mahaplerkpong Secretary General of the Federation of Thai Industries (FTI) suggested it may take 8-10 years for tourism to recover. Other webinar speakers included Mr. Kavit Kittyboonya, Vice President, the Thai Exhibition Association (TEA), Mr.Chiruit Isarangkun Na Ayuthaya, President, Thailand Convention and Exhibition Bureau (TCEB) and Mr. Stanley Kang, Chairman, Joint Foreign Chambers of Commerce in Thailand. In addition Mr. Montri Mahaplerkpong Secretary General, The Federation of Thai Industries who impressed many of those attending the webinar with his presentation. Responding to my question his reply was both thoughtful and well reasoned. Does the panel have an estimate when tourism will normalise? Mr. Montri replied by firstly stating that tourism was not the Federation’s specialised area however if we compare the global pandemic to a Thailand centric crisis such as the ‘97 Tom Yum Financial Crisis, this started here in one country. It took 5 years to recover. Now if we look at the Covid pandemic it is global involving all countries. “I can‘t see tourism recovering for 8-10 years,” he said. He went on to explain that this was also dependent on other factors. He asked, “How safe is it to travel on an aircraft?” Economy class travel is too cramped for social distancing so high-end tourism travelling in business class with more space, may improve quicker than economy class tourism he suggested. In addition he felt the rate of vaccinations and certification would effect the pace of the recovery. Webinar no.2 of the series will take place on 26th August 2021 via Zoom 10:00-11:30 (GMT+7) and entitled “Where to Play and How to Win”. What was the Tom Yum Kung Crisis? The Thai dish Tom Yum Kung is a spicy Thai shrimp soup. The Tom Yum Kung Crisis was an economic meltdown, set into motion by a number of different factors in 1997. It was dubbed this particular name because of the heat Thai citizens were feeling during this time, and the stress of this crisis and the financial implications of it led many people to take their own lives. It was the worst economic crisis Thailand had ever seen, and the effects were felt far and wide. People’s salaries were cut in half, jobs were lost, and those who were planning on entering the workforce could not find any jobs, regardless of their skills or previous education. What caused the crisis? Many factors came into play, starting with the real estate market which began to crash in 1996. Then the stock index fell. A total of 16 financial institutions were shut down, and by July 2, 1997, the baht was floating, which had not happened in 14 years. Thailand recovered but it took 5 years. --2021-08-20 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharp Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Mr. Montri replied by firstly stating that tourism was not the Federation’s specialised area... BUT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IT ALOT MORE THAN THE TAT. Edited August 20, 2021 by Sharp 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 IMO as soon as the world will learn and adopt to live with Covid that's how soon things will go back to a NEW normal, forget the old normal... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 It's like saying never 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, BE88 said: It's like saying never Most likely outcome..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeijoshinCool Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, webfact said: Economy class travel is too cramped for social distancing so high-end tourism travelling in business class with more space, may improve quicker than economy class tourism he suggested. Yes, and, even better, First Class has no covid whatsoever. My cat's turds are smarter than this guy. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: “I can‘t see tourism recovering for 8-10 years,” He'll never get a job with TAT despite those rose-coloured glasses. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: What was the Tom Yum Kung Crisis? Thats enough to scare off the Chinese forever!!! Do not ever, ever mention the shrimp is running low 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, mikebell said: He'll never get a job with TAT despite those rose-coloured glasses. You just made the List at the Federation! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 The question is do "we" really want tourism back to past levels and the rampant association with concrete, uncontrolled building and greed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 He is correct. All the resultant dissatisfaction will manifest itself in political protest and civil unrest, as we are now seeing. Real tough times ahead for Thailand. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, Whale said: The question is do "we" really want tourism back to past levels and the rampant association with concrete, uncontrolled building and greed. I suppose that depends on who one defines as "we". The many tens, no, hundreds of thousands who worked in a wide range of of jobs and are now without livelihoods would probably say yes. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 There are signs that people are feeling more confident to travel and this is strongly correlated to vaccine rollout and virus effective contained. Down to the czar to made this happen. He is the only reason why tourism has not recovered. Anyway K Montri is way off his area of expertise and really should not made the off the cuff comment. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 a strange question about tourism to ask at this discussion panel. They have nothing to do with tourism, so answer was good enough as my or anybodies else opinion. He did mention economy class travel. There were restrictions on air plane travel up to 50% passenger capacity during the first wave. They were cancelled in the USA and in Europe around June 2020. Instead testing was introduced. Soon later similar rules came to Thailand. Now, with mass vax programs around the world, all air lines long forgot about distancing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 TAT will probably be sad to learn about The Federation of Thai Industries' prediction, it does not at all fit into their calculations...???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 If the infections are down , people are vaccinated and they drop a lot of the rules , i would be more then happy to come . All 3 of those are far away , and i am afraid the rules ( COE , extra insurance , phone tracking , quarantine for 2 weeks ...) gonna stay long time . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 I see 3-5 years, perhaps sooner if they continue to ramp up vaccinations. Don't underestimate the average Thai, the street level Thais. They are tough, resilient, and clever when need be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 42 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: I see 3-5 years, perhaps sooner if they continue to ramp up vaccinations. Don't underestimate the average Thai, the street level Thais. They are tough, resilient, and clever when need be. I guess we lived in a different Thailand. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caldera Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 Finally, someone with a realistic outlook. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronster Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Bingo !! Give this man an award for living in the real world ! Not la la land the TAT live in ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Way its going, it will soon be easier for my wife to come stay with me in the UK for 6 months than me go there ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Xmas 2022 before we have a positive vibe regarding tourism in Thailand is my guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 8 hours ago, webfact said: BANGKOK: Speaking at Thursday morning’s webinar “Gearing up Thailand Economic Recovery in 2022 and Beyond” organised by the Thai Exhibition Association (TEA) and sub-headed A Brighter Outlook for Thailand’s Exhibition Industry, Mr. Montri Mahaplerkpong Secretary General of the Federation of Thai Industries (FTI) suggested it may take 8-10 years for tourism to recover. Some truth at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Sharp said: Xmas 2022 before we have a positive vibe regarding tourism in Thailand is my guess. If they're lucky. I have a feeling that they will take every and any measure to prevent things from normalising. Until the COVID prisons disappear there will be no mass tourism of any kind. If they don't get rid of this forced isolation policy then mass tourism will not return, ever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Finally a realistic prediction. This man obviously would never be offered a position at TAT, who I assume will bring out a new, very generous prediction tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it is what it is Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 overly pessimistic outlook i'd say, though probably a counter balance to usual overly optimistic forecast pronouncements. an interesting and wide ranging article from the guardian estimates 2024 for full tourism recovery https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/19/no-one-comes-here-any-more-the-human-cost-as-covid-wipes-out-tourism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALSinCM Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 12 hours ago, webfact said: Speaking at Thursday morning’s webinar “Gearing up Thailand Economic Recovery in 2022 and Beyond” organised by the Thai Exhibition Association (TEA) and sub-headed A Brighter Outlook for Thailand’s Exhibition Industry, Mr. Montri Mahaplerkpong Secretary General of the Federation of Thai Industries (FTI) suggested it may take 8-10 years for tourism to recover. Optimistically. Realistically? Never. Don't tell TAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anton9 Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 In Italy, Spain,France tourists areas are packed of people enyoing summer holidays. South East Asia(Thailand especially) just digged their own grave. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 It feels refreshing to read news thats not all fluffy like TAT like. That prediction is a lot worse than many would would have proclaimed. News like that affects markets. You have to tell it like it is if you want to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabang Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Quote How safe is it to travel on an aircraft?” Economy class travel is too cramped for social distancing so high-end tourism travelling in business class with more space, may improve quicker than economy class tourism he suggested. In addition he felt the rate of vaccinations and certification would effect the pace of the recovery. Not everyone is so scared of the virus that they can't leave their house even after getting vaccinated but it is inconvenient and difficult to travel which is putting off many people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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