Why people so selfish?

[Sparktrader]

Be kind

Tip people

Give compliments

Drive safe

Help people

[sipi]

Not sure about the last one.

[worgeordie]

Not everybody......

regards Worgeordie

[canthai55]

“Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. And unselfishness is letting other people's lives alone, not interfering with them. Selfishness always aims at creating around it an absolute uniformity of type. Unselfishness recognizes infinite variety of type as a delightful thing, accepts it, acquiesces in it, enjoys it. It is not selfish to think for oneself. A man who does not think for himself does not think at all. It is grossly selfish to require of one's neighbor that he should think in the same way, and hold the same opinions. Why should he? If he can think, he will probably think differently. If he cannot think, it is monstrous to require thought of any kind from him. A red rose is not selfish because it wants to be a red rose. It would be horribly selfish if it wanted all the other flowers in the garden to be both red and roses.”

― Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man and Prison Writings

[OneMoreFarang]

[bkk6060]

Who you claiming selfish?  Thais or expats or Falang?

[Will B Good]

Playing loud music, smoking in non-smoking areas, talking loudly in public, disobeying simple rules for the common good......I find many people are totally inconsiderate of others.

 

The most frustrating ones are the people who defend the above and say it is their right to do what they want to do.....the very definition of selfishness.

[Mickeymaus]

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Playing loud music, smoking in non-smoking areas, talking loudly in public, disobeying simple rules for the common good......I find many people are totally inconsiderate of others.

 

The most frustrating ones are the people who defend the above and say it is their right to do what they want to do.....the very definition of selfishness.

Just fight back... ????

 

"Man allegedly shoots and kills co-worker because he wouldn’t turn down the radio" 

 

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/man-allegedly-shoots-and-kills-co-worker-because-he-wouldnt-turn-down-the-radio

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Who you claiming selfish?  Thais or expats or Falang?

80% of them

[Sparktrader]

2 hours ago, Mickeymaus said:

Just fight back... ????

 

"Man allegedly shoots and kills co-worker because he wouldn’t turn down the radio" 

 

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/man-allegedly-shoots-and-kills-co-worker-because-he-wouldnt-turn-down-the-radio

If it was Queen or Abba fair enough.

[simon43]

Greed and selfishness are 2 natural human traits.  Unselfishness, generosity, modesty etc are not natural human traits. It takes great effort to eliminate greed and selfishness from your body....

[ColeBOzbourne]

I will happily change my ways and stop being selfish...but first I want to know what's in it for me?

[Sparktrader]

12 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I will happily change my ways and stop being selfish...but first I want to know what's in it for me?

69 virgins

[Mavrix]

22 hours ago, sipi said:

Not sure about the last one.

French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre:  "Hell is other people"

[Muhendis]

20 hours ago, Will B Good said:

The most frustrating ones are the people who defend the above and say it is their right to do what they want to do.....the very definition of selfishness.

Do unto others before they do unto you. Seen it many times.

[supersomchai]

If everyone was selfish %100 of the time the world would collapse in total anarchy.

Its in our own interests to cooperate

……as much as we can!

 

[mvdf]

21 hours ago, canthai55 said:

“Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. And unselfishness is letting other people's lives alone, not interfering with them. Selfishness always aims at creating around it an absolute uniformity of type. Unselfishness recognizes infinite variety of type as a delightful thing, accepts it, acquiesces in it, enjoys it. It is not selfish to think for oneself. A man who does not think for himself does not think at all. It is grossly selfish to require of one's neighbor that he should think in the same way, and hold the same opinions. Why should he? If he can think, he will probably think differently. If he cannot think, it is monstrous to require thought of any kind from him. A red rose is not selfish because it wants to be a red rose. It would be horribly selfish if it wanted all the other flowers in the garden to be both red and roses.”

― Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man and Prison Writings

How about "posing as a Somdomite [sic]"⁽¹⁾ and his scandalous pederasty? Isn't that selfishness?

 

⁽¹⁾ Wilde v. Queensberry

[spidermike007]

You know what I consider to be a selfish person? One with children (or dogs) who do not behave, and let them run around and terrorize the neighborhood, a movie theatre, a restaurant, or anyone around them. And when you say something to them, they reply with something inane like "they are four year old children. How am I supposed to control them, or keep them quiet?"

 

My response? So, who is the parent, and who is the child, in this equation? Gets them every time. Food for thought for lousy parents with rowdy kids. 

[Tanomazu]

1 hour ago, mvdf said:

How about "posing as a Somdomite [sic]"⁽¹⁾ and his scandalous pederasty? Isn't that selfishness?

 

⁽¹⁾ Wilde v. Queensberry

To be fair Wilde asking others not to interfere with his life is hardly surprising given that he was a rampant homosexual, so  yes him asking to let other flowers blossom is obviously selfishness as well. And yet, and yet, it is hard to see fault in the logic of his words. It is selfish to expect others to live according to your laws. Of course, we all have to do that, even if some homosexuals do not like it.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Tanomazu

[Tanomazu]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You know what I consider to be a selfish person? One with children (or dogs) who do not behave, and let them run around and terrorize the neighborhood, a movie theatre, a restaurant, or anyone around them. And when you say something to them, they reply with something inane like "they are four year old children. How am I supposed to control them, or keep them quiet?"

 

My response? So, who is the parent, and who is the child, in this equation? Gets them every time. Food for thought for lousy parents with rowdy kids. 

They are of course right, one can not control a 4 year old child, or keep it quiet. It doesn't make them look foolish if you then tell the parents they're children.

 

You have a strong point about the dogs on the other hand.

[Almer]

6 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

69 virgins

Phew I've  come over all hot and bothered

[xtrnuno41]

It is in humans. At one point you come to a situation and you are selfish.

Take all so called leaders in the world and companies, they are all selfish!

Then being that, you implement that to other people or you try to kill that by your selfish actions.

People can easily follow "some leader" , history proven it and still continuing.  

Maybe the only man in the world who wasnt selfish, would be Jezus then?

But ok he died, because of ... selfish people.

[Scott Tracy]

14 minutes ago, Tanomazu said:

They are of course right, one can not control a 4 year old child, or keep it quiet. It doesn't make them look foolish if you then tell the parents they're children.

 It is it not selfish to take them where others may be affected by them? If you cannot control them, why are you the parent? 

[hotchilli]

On 8/30/2021 at 2:59 PM, Sparktrader said:

Be kind

Tip people

Give compliments

Drive safe

Help people

Very subjective... 

[Tanomazu]

5 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

 It is it not selfish to take them where others may be affected by them? If you cannot control them, why are you the parent? 

No, it's selfish to expect parents to live as prisoners in their house so that single guys can go enjoy themselves. That is why any court in the world will tell anyone who complains about the noise of children that it is expected and you have to suck it up. Many cases where homeowners have complained about the noise of children due to nurseries next door. The courts always told the parties the nurseries can make as much noise as they want.

 

See, children are the future taxpayers, doctors, firemen, dentists, the reason why society continues. That is why it is in society's interest to indulge parents with children and why the courts do so.

 

With dogs it's a different story of course.

[473geo]

20 minutes ago, Tanomazu said:

They are of course right, one can not control a 4 year old child, or keep it quiet. It doesn't make them look foolish if you then tell the parents they're children.

 

You have a strong point about the dogs on the other hand.

You do know that many children enter pre school in Thailand around the age of 3 they appear to accept being controlled most of the day. I'm with Mike on this one, don't expect 100% compliance but control yes.

People want children to play take them to a place with appropriate facilities.

[Tarteso]

6 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

69 virgins

72 mate, 72… 

Edited August 31, 2021 by Tarteso

[brewsterbudgen]

23 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Who you claiming selfish?  Thais or expats or Falang?

"People".  Didn't you read the thread's title?

[Tanomazu]

Just now, 473geo said:

You do know that many children enter pre school in Thailand around the age of 3 they appear to accept being controlled most of the day. I'm with Mike on this one, don't expect 100% compliance but control yes.

People want children to play take them to a place with appropriate facilities.

I'm well aware, that is the case around the whole world. However, if you've ever been inside a Kindergarten you will see children screaming, running everywhere, making a lot of noise. There is no 100% control of 4 year olds anywhere. It's impossible.

 

Parents do take children to appropriate facilities, but sometimes they may want to go see a movie. If the child then becomes restless and makes noise that's just part of life isn't it?

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

first check definition of “selfish”, i.e. lack of consideration for others, focused substantially on oneself. “why” ? human default evolutionary survival instinct. requires “unselfish” co-operation override, a weaker human trait…….oddly without co-operation ( polar opposite of selfish) human society could not exist…..so paradox is by being cooperative for survival is actually a lesser form of selfish………