27 tons of drugs worth nearly 30 billion baht set to be incinerated today

[webfact]

Picture: Naew Na

 

Naew Na reported that Food and Drug Administration officials were busy yesterday with operatives from the Narcotics Control Board checking a huge amount of drugs stored in an FDA depot.

 

The drugs were kept for evidentiary matters but can now be destroyed after a court order.

 

The checking was in order to ensure transparency, said the media.

 

The drugs will go up in smoke at the AKP facility in the Samut Prakan Industrial estate.

 

Natural Gas will be used as an accelerant and six US EPA protocols will be followed to ensure there is no pollution from the incineration that will reach 1,200 C.

 

Picture: Naew Na

 

In total 27,806 kilos of drugs will be burned - it is all worth 29,916 million baht.

 

It is made up of the following:

 

Ya Ba (methamphetamine mixed with caffeine): 15,890 kilos.

 

Ice (crystal meth): 10,817 kilos

 

Heroin: 697 kilos

 

Ecstasy: 16 kilos. 

 

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[Scrotobike]

What a mix.  Hold your breath if nearby - scary story.

[JoePai]

5 minutes ago, Scrotobike said:

What a mix.  Hold your breath if nearby - scary story.

six US EPA protocols will be followed to ensure there is no pollution from the incineration that will reach 1,200 C

[OneMoreFarang]

19 minutes ago, webfact said:

In total 27,806 kilos of drugs will be burned - it is all worth 29,916 million baht.

"worth 29,916 million baht" for whom? Is that the import price when the drugs come to Thailand or the street price if is is sold gram by gram?

IMHO it is a stupid idea to write such numbers at all. But if anybody writes them then at least let us know where that number comes from and what it is.

[Scrotobike]

8 minutes ago, JoePai said:

six US EPA protocols will be followed to ensure there is no pollution from the incineration that will reach 1,200 C

Thanks for that - but do you trust them to it right?

[petermik]

I wonder what amount has been skimmed off the top to cover "expenses"......

[Will B Good]

In total 27,806 kilos of what people think are drugs will be burned - it is all worth 250 baht.

 

It is made up of the following:

 

Wood chip: 15,890 kilos.

 

MDF: 10,817 kilos

 

Waste paper: 697 kilos

 

Cardboard: 16 kilos. 

Edited August 31, 2021 by Will B Good

[chalawaan]

Imagine if they purified and regulated all this stuff and sold it in pharmacies, so kids would not be able to buy it off criminals.

 

Imagine the corruption that would disappear, imagine the vast amounts of revenue from taxing it, and recreational drug tourism, imagine the jails free of non-violent users, contributing to society, instead of being locked away for years for the evil crime of getting high.

 

Imagine realizing that problematic drug use and societal disruption would be no more than that caused by alcohol, and with safer, less anger-producing substances on offer, would likely trend down.

 

Imagine a world where everyone treated meth like they treat alcohol, because the science says the addiction and damage potential are about the same.

 

Imagine they were humble enough to look at Portugal's 21 years of vast drug success, where decriminalizing everything created -against all the odds- a huge drop in drug use, and HIV infections, don't forget HIV crosses over from users to all of us.

 

Imagine sanity! 

 

 

[Phuketshrew]

So if they are making the same 40% bounty as they do on luxury cars then that's a nice little earner.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, chalawaan said:

Imagine if they purified and regulated all this stuff and sold it in pharmacies, so kids would not be able to buy it off criminals.

 

Imagine the corruption that would disappear, imagine the vast amounts of revenue from taxing it, and recreational drug tourism, imagine the jails free of non-violent users, contributing to society, instead of being locked away for years for the evil crime of getting high.

 

Imagine realizing that problematic drug use and societal disruption would be no more than that caused by alcohol, and with safer, less anger-producing substances on offer, would likely trend down.

 

Imagine a world where everyone treated meth like they treat alcohol, because the science says the addiction and damage potential are about the same.

 

Imagine they were humble enough to look at Portugal's 21 years of vast drug success, where decriminalizing everything created -against all the odds- a huge drop in drug use, and HIV infections, don't forget HIV crosses over from users to all of us.

 

Imagine sanity! 

 

 

From a UK perspective.

 

Imagine a true blue, dyed in the wool Tory politician even suggesting something like this!

[steven100]

omg   !     the TV pot heads will be drooling at the mouth about now I expect ......   Lol ????

[steven100]

5 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

Imagine a world where everyone treated meth like they treat alcohol, because the science says the addiction and damage potential are about the same

no thanks ........    there's enough crazy nutters loose around the place as it is.

[RafPinto]

Breaking

Ferrari Joe released as he is the top cop for the narco industry.

 

[phetphet]

I doubt they will be burning much in Samut Prakan. According to the news the place is under about four feet of water. completely flooded.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The drugs will go up in smoke at the AKP facility in the Samut Prakan Industrial estate.

Daily News reported on severe flooding in Samut Prakan particularly at the industrial estate in the province south east of the Thai capital Bangkok.

 

Many workers in the estate were unable to save their vehicles and were getting about in boats after heavy rain yesterday.

Edited August 31, 2021 by phetphet

[KannikaP]

7 minutes ago, steven100 said:

omg   !     the TV pot heads will be drooling at the mouth about now I expect ......   Lol ????

No cannabis (pot) was mentioned.

[chalawaan]

51 minutes ago, Scrotobike said:

What a mix.  Hold your breath if nearby - scary story.

Oh please!

 

Yes, it's just that, a scary story. For the childlike citizenry, who dont stop to think that if all this is a fraction of what's being used in real life, then where are the millions of casualties littering the streets of the world, even though this stuff is so impure!

 

Maybe some independent research, (meaning, not the first ten websites Google throws up at you) is in order?

[cyril sneer]

29 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

So if they are making the same 40% bounty as they do on luxury cars then that's a nice little earner.

that's why drugs are illegal

[ezzra]

Pity all that stuff can't be sold to be turned into some chemical components that can be useful for legal purposes...

[chalawaan]

9 minutes ago, steven100 said:

no thanks ........    there's enough crazy nutters loose around the place as it is.

So what's your plan B because your plan A is not stopping crazy nutters, getting high, it's just creating a vast criminal enterprise to feed them. 

Clean regulated meth used responsibly, does not turn people into nutters anyway.

Anymore than clean regulated alcohol used responsibly does.

If you are against it, then mount a common sense argument, don't retreat into fear, false flags, and ignorance as a defence, it's clearly not working, or there would not be tonnes of drugs to dispose of to begin with!

 

The drug war would have been won, long ago, and we would all be sipping milkshakes, and praising the police as saviours of the world.

 

I'm not saying drugs are harmless, but criminalising chemicals and plants does not work to minimise that harm, it just increases it, and you get impacted too, whether you believe that or not, your insurance premiums for one, and look at what it has done to both the Thai and Mexican Police! You have to pay them, as a victim of crime, just to do their jobs! That's all the fruits of the drug war you think is keeping your kids safe, riight!

 

I'm saying that there's an ever-growing demand, even at stupid prices, for reasons far beyond the nonsensical stigmatized stereotypes in the media, who simply can't afford to buy all the drugs that ship, even if they broke into every car and house in the nation. So its time to quit being at war with this growing population, and seeing ways we can both live and all benefit from all the banned drugs, because every single one of them have beneficial qualities. Every one. 

 

Drugs is like religion, in that smart people leave their brains at the door the minute they hear the dog-whistle trigger-words the media know get you every time.

 

You drinkers and baccy smokers are also all hopelessly addicted to the man's fear-inducing BS!

[mahtin]

Crack beneficial qualities?

[chalawaan]

13 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Pity all that stuff can't be sold to be turned into some chemical components that can be useful for legal purposes...

Pity you're not wondering about the so-called logic behind what made every single recreational substance bar deadly and highly addictive booze and tobacco, illegal to begin with.

[chalawaan]

9 minutes ago, mahtin said:

Crack beneficial qualities?

I'm glad you asked that question.

 

Crack is a derivative of a plant used beneficially, both as an anaesthetic and a safe energy booster, crack would not exist if the FDA had not banned cocaine, and instead created a cheap legal safer product that minimized harm and maximized the energy benefits of chewing the raw leaves, as South Americans have done for millenia.

 

And while were here: Meth happened because of the coke ban, and don't blame the Sacklers for the opioid crisis, that happened because, the DEA curtailed peoples problematic use of opioids by criminalizing them and the opioid derivatives, instead of giving them life saving access to clean dose-regulated opioids. These were not street junkies, these were regular medical patients who've been killed by a broken useless war on drugs in the name of so-called morality, and just plain rod-up-the-ass uptightness in general. Death is a hell of a price to pay for someones curmudgeonly medically-unsound opinion.

 

Now do you see what I mean about people leaving their brains at the door? Or at best, not even thinking it through at all, they keep sucking up those media horror stories, the ones that prohibition itself has brought into your neighbourhoods. 

[BobinBKK]

The cabinet house must be downwind from this place... It's the only logical reason (other than pure stupidity) for all of the ridiculous nonsense those people and TAT come up with...

[wombat]

1 hour ago, chalawaan said:

humble enough to look at Portugal's 21 years of vast drug success,

yes...the one countries success that is never spoken of....i wonder why that is?

[Will B Good]

Just now, wombat said:

yes...the one countries success that is never spoken of....i wonder why that is?

From the same stable as Japan's success in controlling gun crime I guess

[Sydebolle]

27,806 kilos illegal drugs with a street value of 29 billion Baht? 

If you incinerate that anywhere else but a highest temperature incinerator, then the neighbours to the incinerating place will have a high time! 

[DaiHard]

The US is sending over one of its top drug experts to help with the incineration

 

 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The checking was in order to ensure transparency, said the media.

A bit of PR following the Joe Ferrari case... I bet the boxes are already empty.

[Dont confuse me]

3 hours ago, chalawaan said:

So what's your plan B because your plan A is not stopping crazy nutters, getting high, it's just creating a vast criminal enterprise to feed them. 

Clean regulated meth used responsibly, does not turn people into nutters anyway.

Anymore than clean regulated alcohol used responsibly does.

If you are against it, then mount a common sense argument, don't retreat into fear, false flags, and ignorance as a defence, it's clearly not working, or there would not be tonnes of drugs to dispose of to begin with!

 

The drug war would have been won, long ago, and we would all be sipping milkshakes, and praising the police as saviours of the world.

 

I'm not saying drugs are harmless, but criminalising chemicals and plants does not work to minimise that harm, it just increases it, and you get impacted too, whether you believe that or not, your insurance premiums for one, and look at what it has done to both the Thai and Mexican Police! You have to pay them, as a victim of crime, just to do their jobs! That's all the fruits of the drug war you think is keeping your kids safe, riight!

 

I'm saying that there's an ever-growing demand, even at stupid prices, for reasons far beyond the nonsensical stigmatized stereotypes in the media, who simply can't afford to buy all the drugs that ship, even if they broke into every car and house in the nation. So its time to quit being at war with this growing population, and seeing ways we can both live and all benefit from all the banned drugs, because every single one of them have beneficial qualities. Every one. 

 

Drugs is like religion, in that smart people leave their brains at the door the minute they hear the dog-whistle trigger-words the media know get you every time.

 

You drinkers and baccy smokers are also all hopelessly addicted to the man's fear-inducing BS!

"and seeing ways we can both live and all benefit from all the banned drugs, because every single one of them have beneficial qualities. Every one."

this is a pretty bold statement, which I would be tempted to buy into,  if you could perhaps enlighten me with the beneficial qualities.

[phetphet]

2 hours ago, DaiHard said:

The US is sending over one of its top drug experts to help with the incineration

 

 

He looks like Rio Ferdinand