Popular Post webfact Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Picture: Siam Rath A transport ministry advisor named Udon Olsan told Siam Rath that ambition plans to target 100,000 foreign tourists spending 1.2 billion baht in the fourth quarter were "very likely to be achieved" when Hua Hin reopens. The plans for the reopening of the resort in Prachuap Khiri Khan are ready and set to roll from October 1st along with several other tourist areas. Many have said that 100,000 foreigners from October to December in Hua Hin is unrealistic especially after the Phuket Sandbox has only attracted just over 30,000 in two and a half months. Udon begs to differ. He pointed to the fact that seven airlines from China, Hong Kong, India, Singapore and Malaysia will be operating three direct flights a week into Hua Hin starting next month. These are charter and scheduled flights. ASEAN NOW did the maths. Let's say that's about 40 flights over about 13 weeks. If the foreign tourists all arrived by air that would mean 2,500 passengers on each flight. Siam Rath didn't think to question the advisor about that absurdity in the numbers. They also reported a former political leader called Suwat Liptaphallop as saying that Hua Hin was ready and able to open up. He claimed that almost 50% of the Thai population in the country had been vaccinated and that "herd immunity" was in touching distance. These claims, when placed alongside the necessity of at least two doses being administered, are also somewhat economical with the truth, notes ASEAN NOW. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-09-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beano2274 Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 I make it 192 passengers per flight if 40 flights per week in 13 weeks 100000 divided by 13 = 7692 passengers per week @ 40 flights per week = 192,3 passengers per flight Still a number that will not be reached. I thought China still had quarantine issues with people returning to China!! 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Again with the day dreamers and their telephone numbers predictions, just look at your current fantasy trip in Phuket sandbox and this is what will happen everywhere else... 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kotsak Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Yo my man!! What are you smoking! 5 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 October 1st, October 1st......no one ever said anything about opening October 1st. 4 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Everyone wants to be look important here, and they have no clue what they are talking about, or how to arrange things... The Sandbox in Phuket is an example and now the same will happen in Hua Hin,, Phuket has direct flights too and so Hua Hin and there is no difference.. Hua Hin is not even fully vaccinated and studies proved that herd immunity for Delta needs 100% fully vaccinated people and not with 1 jab or 2 jabs of less effective vaccines. Let them talk.... we know better 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Headache 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sapson Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Why does Asean Now insult the readership with this utter boll@cks ? However this could be said of 75% of the statements released daily from various ministerial or tourist departments. Edited September 17, 2021 by sapson 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: 100K foreign tourists spending 1.2 billion baht in the fourth quarter were "very likely to be achieved" when Hua Hin reopens Oh, for heaven's sake at least make it reasonable. The Phuket debacle delivered what 20% of their estimates ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBaker Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 God speed, just don't coplain you will run out of ICU beds later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tranquilogringo Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 Thailand seems desperate to get more cash into the Thai economy from foreigners. Yet immigration makes Non-O visa holder foreign residents lock up 800,000/400,000 baht in a Thai bank account for as long as they are in Thailand. The government and TAT says come and spend. Immigration says stay and don't spend. Seems like somebody should look at this crazy requirement. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 I'm waiting for the President of the Tuk-Tuk Association of Thailand (TAT) to come forward with a higher number. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, webfact said: Many have said that 100,000 foreigners from October to December in Hua Hin is unrealistic especially after the Phuket Sandbox has only attracted just over 30,000 in two and a half months. That's right, it's simply not going to happen. For a start they're not going to be opening up anything and even if they do it's paperwork and tests all the way from your home country and into the 'holiday'. Hardly anyone will come due to all the hassle, same as Phuket. Mass tourism will 100% resume when the following things happen : 1 - Covid imprisonment is removed, if you become infected you need to be locked up for 2 weeks - tourists won't be having that once word gets out and word will get out - when they start locking up tourists who've taken failed vaccines it will be widely reported throughout the world. Especially when they start taking children away from their parents. 2 - Quarantines - these are vaccinated people - they only need qurantine if the vaccine doesn't work at all (I'm sure some of them are less than effective, cough, China) - they're not going to suffer any form of quarantine for 2 weeks - only the stupid will do that. Granted, there's plenty of stupid peole around so there will be some. 3 - Everything needs to be opened up, restaurants without limits on what kind of drink you can have with your meal, bars, etc and without 'green passes' of whatever they're calling it. None of the above is happening any time soon - don't believe anyone who says otherwise, they have no idea what they're talking about. People won't go on holiday to a country with the restrictions of Thailand when there's lots of other places without these restrictions - Thailand will be last on the list. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, beano2274 said: I make it 192 passengers per flight if 40 flights per week in 13 weeks 100000 divided by 13 = 7692 passengers per week @ 40 flights per week = 192,3 passengers per flight Still a number that will not be reached. I thought China still had quarantine issues with people returning to China!! "Let's say that's about 40 flights over about 13 weeks. " Is he saying a total of 40 flights over 13 weeks rather than 40 flights a week for 13 weeks? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernietravelling Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Sounding like real success story! ???? 1.2 billion baht from 100.000 tourists, that’s 12,000 baht per “tourist”. … roughly 310 € or 265 £ per tourist … ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, beano2274 said: I make it 192 passengers per flight if 40 flights per week in 13 weeks 100000 divided by 13 = 7692 passengers per week @ 40 flights per week = 192,3 passengers per flight Still a number that will not be reached. I thought China still had quarantine issues with people returning to China!! It’s not totally clear, but their calculations seem to be based on 40 flights over 13 weeks, not 40 per week for 13 weeks. But I’m not sure where the figure of 40 flights comes from. They note 7 airlines operating 3 direct flights a week. Which suggests 21 flights per week. I think there is more information not quoted in the article and that enables them to be confident of using a figure of 40 flights over 13 weeks, in their calculations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bernietravelling said: Sounding like real success story! ???? 1.2 billion baht from 100.000 tourists, that’s 12,000 baht per “tourist”. … roughly 310 € or 265 £ per tourist … ???? A cardinal sin. UNDER estimating the amount of money to be spent. I bet he’s been fired already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kiwikeith Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, ezzra said: Again with the day dreamers and their telephone numbers predictions, just look at your current fantasy trip in Phuket sandbox and this is what will happen everywhere else... I don’t believe that big Jets can land in Huahin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, beano2274 said: I make it 192 passengers per flight if 40 flights per week in 13 weeks 100000 divided by 13 = 7692 passengers per week @ 40 flights per week = 192,3 passengers per flight Still a number that will not be reached. I thought China still had quarantine issues with people returning to China!! we have seen most airlines are cancelling scheduled flights, from weekly schedule to consolidate pax from 7 days a week to 2-3 days a week. there might a spike during the initial phase, when passengers who have been waiting for so long takes a leap of faith, but that interest will wane off as we have seen with various schemes launched in the past 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgey Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: It’s not totally clear, but their calculations seem to be based on 40 flights over 13 weeks, not 40 per week for 13 weeks. But I’m not sure where the figure of 40 flights comes from. They note 7 airlines operating 3 direct flights a week. Which suggests 21 flights per week. I think there is more information not quoted in the article and that enables them to be confident of using a figure of 40 flights over 13 weeks, in their calculations. Because he is reading it as 7 airlines operating 3 flights a week (in total, between them) for 13 weeks = 39, call it 40 flights over the period. Otherwise it could be read as 7 times 3 (21 flights per week) times 13 = 273 flights total. Not sure anyone could get to 40 per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, beano2274 said: I make it 192 passengers per flight if 40 flights per week in 13 weeks 100000 divided by 13 = 7692 passengers per week @ 40 flights per week = 192,3 passengers per flight Still a number that will not be reached. I thought China still had quarantine issues with people returning to China!! But it was 40 flights during 13 weeks in the calculated example, i.e. 3 flights a week...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisbangkok Posted September 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2021 They're going to be attracted by Elvis who has announced his comeback gig will be in Hua Hin. That's as plausible as the latest statement as listed . 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I'm pretty convinced that transport ministry advisor Udon Olsan uses the same calculator brand as TAT, and reuse the same spread sheet that was used for Phuket's sandbox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, webfact said: A transport ministry advisor named Udon Olsan told Siam Rath that ambition plans to target 100,000 foreign tourists spending 1.2 billion baht in the fourth quarter were "very likely to be achieved" when Hua Hin reopens This is worse than water-boarding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, webfact said: Siam Rath didn't think to question the advisor about that absurdity in the numbers Or why he's still employed as an advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ikke1959 said: Everyone wants to be look important here, and they have no clue what they are talking about, or how to arrange things... The Sandbox in Phuket is an example and now the same will happen in Hua Hin,, Phuket has direct flights too and so Hua Hin and there is no difference.. Hua Hin is not even fully vaccinated and studies proved that herd immunity for Delta needs 100% fully vaccinated people and not with 1 jab or 2 jabs of less effective vaccines. Let them talk.... we know better All jumping on the "lets open up" band wagon... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Nobody said October 1st, nobody said 100000 foreigners, nobody said Bt1.2bn, nobody said anything. Its all your fault. Oh, I'm so sorry. I seem to have commented on next weeks news.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Another dreamer who is clueless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwonitoy Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 If it includes the foreigners that are already there the amount of money coming in is already significant I remember a story about a town in the south east US that had a large military base nearby, locals complain about the bad soldiers and disturbance they caused. The base commander had the bank notes marked with a UV dot for the troops cashing their cheques. A week or so later at a town hall meeting they started checking the money and were astonished by the amount of currency coming to the town from the base. Complaints dropped off Do the same with the expats here and see how much money we bring into the local economies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansell Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, klauskunkel said: I'm waiting for the President of the Tuk-Tuk Association of Thailand (TAT) to come forward with a higher number. Good one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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